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It turned into "I like mafia this certain way, and everyone should like it that way."
Honestly, though, Phil's argument is the best one. We should cater to people with the lowest tolerances for bad manner, because that will naturally include all of the players who have higher tolerances. It shouldn't affect anyone's strategy, because good play doesn't revolve around being a fucking asshole to people in the game, at least not to the extent that it makes others players want to stop playing. Anyone saying otherwise is just being ridiculous.
Splitting types of games up doesn't work; we have too small of a playerbase to cater to minorities. We need to be inclusive rather than exclusive, or we're going to continue to stagnate.
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Blazinghand
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On May 31 2014 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who is Phil?
Phil is Foolishness. His name is Phillip Richard Monique, But as a joke we call him "Phil R Monique" which sounds like "philharmonic"
yeah we're awful
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On May 31 2014 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:Phil is Foolishness. His name is Phillip Richard Monique, But as a joke we call him "Phil R Monique" which sounds like "philharmonic" yeah we're awful
Especially considering the name he really likes being called is "Philkins"
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On May 31 2014 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:Phil is Foolishness. His name is Phillip Richard Monique, But as a joke we call him "Phil R Monique" which sounds like "philharmonic" yeah we're awful
WAT. Foolishness has a real name?
Wow. TL mafia really has changed.
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Yes Foolishness has a fair point. I actually talked with this in PM's with someone the other night. This is my opinion and the conclusion i have come to when i got more experienced in playing mafia:
Be nicer - yes, i agree, if people feel like that's somehow making people disppear.
But i personally think that's not the case. I think the case is the people who do not play anymore (i mean have quit because of "this") are mostly people who are not really suited for playing mafia. If they can't handle pressure and/or will take it personally when someone calls them bad or idiot i don't think they should play mafia.
For example i know one person nearly stopped playing after a game we played because on the final day i shot down all of their cases and lynched them (as is my job, as scum). They took it personally (and i was not even rude, i just won all the arguments against them). In another game i made someone feel really bad and they messaged the hosts something like "what to do, i don't know if i can keep playing" when i shot down their cases repeatedly.
Like, obviously i don't want to make anyone feel bad and quit because my playstyle is aggressive and after the host from the example above told me about what happened i have actually been very sensitive and careful in what to say towards people i know "can't take it".
But i see no reason why people who actually are (imo) "suited" for playing mafia are not allowed to play like we do towards each other, because i consider that a hectic battle and nothing more. And everyone of us understands this is a game and what happens in a game stays there and "attacks" are not personal.
imo some people are just too sensitive and that's not a good talent toi have in a mafia game.
After all this is a game where you are supposed to wear down your opponent, some people consider that as the best strategy and they are not wrong nor right. It's as good as any other strategy if it works. I just played a game ~a month ago where someone just threw shit on me as scum all D1. Obviously i got mad and the only case i could make was "noone starts a game like this as town, this dude has to be scum". I was thrown off my game and noone believed me. gg.. fuck, that guy played me because he knew how to play me so that other people don't know what's going on. Was it wrong? Hell no, it was a perfectly legit strategy. After game who cares? noone, i told him well played and maybe next time he tries that i'll keep my shit together and lynch him.
Playing with people's emotions is as good of a strategy as is writing big analytical posts, in case you can read / distract (as scum) the players that way. It's a fact. People just take things too personally in games. Yes, i agree sometimes someone goes over the line and that's wrong, i know i do that, maybe the most here. But still people should not take the game so seriously they have some vendetta's against other people for something that happened in another game, that's dumb. I think most people are capable of saying "gg, damn i was bad / this went wrong" after the game and just realize it's a game, a highly emotional game (at least for me, because i am highly competitive person - as i know at least some other people are aswell).
In case you are town and someone is being a dick lynch them if they are scum, or ignore them if they are town, it's quite easy. Well, it's not. But you guys make it sound like easy so maybe you can do it.
I also don't agree about the "quality of games being better before" comment. The quality of games nowadays is really really high here, hell TL towns lynched mafia on D1 ~50% of the games for like 6 months a while ago. Has that ever happened before? Or did scum just suck here at that point? I don't think the latter is the case, nor do i think the former can be proven aswell. The playstyle is just different. marv can have 50 page filter and there is really no spam. His posts are always easy to read and they contribute, even if he says "lol". That's a fact. If you can't comprehend those posts and think they are spam then it's your fault. But it does not make the game spammy, you just need to use more time, that's how the game has evolved. Deal with it or host an invite game where you play with people who play "oldschool" (yes i know what i am talking about, i have read ~300 mafia games 2006 -> so...) or host games with post restrictions. The people who will join will join, people who won't they won't. Simple. There is no need to tell "oh this was so so so better and all of this sucks".
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tldr; personal attacks, mindless swearing etc -> out, calling ppl bad, wearing them down as scum as you are supposed to do -> in.
people who can't handle that must not play mafia. my 2c.
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is this still going on LOL
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On May 31 2014 05:44 Coagulation wrote:
those zany omgus kids are at it again.
speaking of omgus kids
happy chupazi slam.
Nonono it is HIJOLE tomorrow
Tomorrow
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On May 31 2014 09:29 Erandorr wrote:
is this still going on LOL
Yes and I am Justin, you, who are you? Elliot? Frank? Theodore? Kim?
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On May 31 2014 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who is Phil?
Kyle is above you bro watch out
WHO ARE YOU
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On May 31 2014 08:55 ghost_403 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:On May 31 2014 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who is Phil? Phil is Foolishness. His name is Phillip Richard Monique, But as a joke we call him "Phil R Monique" which sounds like "philharmonic" yeah we're awful WAT. Foolishness has a real name? Wow. TL mafia really has changed.
So do you
Speak
EVERYONE NAME CLAIM
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On May 31 2014 09:31 Alakaslam wrote:Yes and I am Justin, you, who are you? Elliot? Frank? Theodore? Kim?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I HOPE ITS LOVELY
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On May 31 2014 09:34 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 09:31 Alakaslam wrote:On May 31 2014 09:29 Erandorr wrote:
is this still going on LOL Yes and I am Justin, you, who are you? Elliot? Frank? Theodore? Kim? HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I HOPE ITS LOVELY
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On May 31 2014 09:34 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 09:31 Alakaslam wrote:On May 31 2014 09:29 Erandorr wrote:
is this still going on LOL Yes and I am Justin, you, who are you? Elliot? Frank? Theodore? Kim? HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I HOPE ITS LOVELY
Tomorrow
WHO ARE YOU
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On May 31 2014 09:32 Alakaslam wrote:Kyle is above you bro watch out WHO ARE YOU
I know who Kyle is so don't fuck with me. ^_^
Kyle will beat you to death. hahha! ;D
happy bday Slam!
<3<3
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On May 31 2014 09:35 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 09:34 Erandorr wrote:On May 31 2014 09:31 Alakaslam wrote:On May 31 2014 09:29 Erandorr wrote:
is this still going on LOL Yes and I am Justin, you, who are you? Elliot? Frank? Theodore? Kim? HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I HOPE ITS LOVELY Tomorrow WHO ARE YOU
WELL ITS ALREADY TOMORROW HERE SO DEAL WITH IT
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On May 31 2014 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 09:32 Alakaslam wrote:On May 31 2014 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who is Phil? Kyle is above you bro watch out WHO ARE YOU I know who Kyle is so don't fuck with me. ^_^ Kyle will beat you to death. hahha! ;D happy bday Slam! <3<3
SSON who u be
Who
Who r
Nvm (grumbles psychotic ramblings to self)
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Guys can we all just agree that GMarsh took himself way to seriously again with the [Important] tag making it a much bigger deal than it really is? BLAME THE NAZI MOD
And that the proposed rulechanges will not get the older players who do not want to play here anymore back anyway because there are more issues that revolve around playstyle and not people being spammy dckheads?
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 31 2014 09:42 Erandorr wrote:
Guys can we all just agree that GMarsh took himself way to seriously again with the [Important] tag making it a much bigger deal than it really is? BLAME THE NAZI MOD
And that the proposed rulechanges will not get the older players who do not want to play here anymore back anyway because there are more issues that revolve around playstyle and not people being spammy dckheads?
no, it's definitely all your fault.
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