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Remember to post respectfully, but feel free to voice how you actually feel about the change
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 28 2014 22:28 GMT
#241
The thing is pretty much everything was allowed for the players since very few hosts actually enforced the rules like it is planned to now.

If you were a new host who already has trouble filling up his games (see for example golden sun before koshi invited everyone) since nobody knows about your setups and how you handle games a message saying you will be strict on manners can just be the nail in the coffin for your game.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 28 2014 22:29 GMT
#242
On May 29 2014 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
And I still would like you to point out why you think things haven't worked out in the past 6 months cause frankly I don't see that.

Well this is true. If people are are all against something, give examples of which we should cut off.
(I am so bad at saying anything to this because i am a badmouth myself and i don't really care).
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
May 28 2014 22:29 GMT
#243
Like if hosts were afraid they couldn't push through their believes for whatever weird reason then they now KNOW that this is baseless. After this discussion it should be clear that they can and should do that. We don't need the change for this.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 28 2014 22:30 GMT
#244
ShiaoPi i don't think filling / not filling Golden Sun II had nothing to with this.
table for two on a tv tray
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 22:32:46
May 28 2014 22:31 GMT
#245
I am just bringing it up as example for new hosts, who have trouble filling up games. There is already a lot of issues you have with trying to host large themed games and if you make the entrybarrier harder for the games in questions it will be worse.

Maybe that is just my opinion but whatever
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 28 2014 22:32 GMT
#246
On May 29 2014 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.

they already can

lol


Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing

On May 29 2014 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.


you mean like the ones that already exist? :O


Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months.

Wtf is up with this steveling stuff?
Your last paragraph is just total bs. There already are rules against bad behaviour and host can refer to them as well as they could refer to the new ones.


but they DON'T. They CAN refer to them, but they DON'T, and at least one host has come in and said that he didn't feel comfortable, and now he does.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 28 2014 22:34 GMT
#247
On May 29 2014 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.

they already can

lol


Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing

On May 29 2014 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.


you mean like the ones that already exist? :O


Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months.

Wtf is up with this steveling stuff?
Your last paragraph is just total bs. There already are rules against bad behaviour and host can refer to them as well as they could refer to the new ones.


but they DON'T. They CAN refer to them, but they DON'T, and at least one host has come in and said that he didn't feel comfortable, and now he does.

well some people don't feel comfortable getting into hotpants because they're too tight. some of us are born naturals.

the answer is not to make hotpants roomier, the answer is just to squeeze yo ass in.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 22:42:37
May 28 2014 22:36 GMT
#248
On May 29 2014 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.

they already can

lol


Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing

On May 29 2014 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.


you mean like the ones that already exist? :O


Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months.

Wtf is up with this steveling stuff?
Your last paragraph is just total bs. There already are rules against bad behaviour and host can refer to them as well as they could refer to the new ones.


but they DON'T. They CAN refer to them, but they DON'T, and at least one host has come in and said that he didn't feel comfortable, and now he does.

Then this discussion has done what it should. We as a community should show the hosts that they can and should enforce their rules in their games. There is no doubt about that and I don't think anyone disagrees with that.
But the fact that the new rules are not needed for that still remains.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
May 28 2014 22:36 GMT
#249
On May 29 2014 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.

they already can

lol


Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing

On May 29 2014 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.


you mean like the ones that already exist? :O


Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months.

Wtf is up with this steveling stuff?
Your last paragraph is just total bs. There already are rules against bad behaviour and host can refer to them as well as they could refer to the new ones.


but they DON'T. They CAN refer to them, but they DON'T, and at least one host has come in and said that he didn't feel comfortable, and now he does.

well some people don't feel comfortable getting into hotpants because they're too tight. some of us are born naturals.

the answer is not to make hotpants roomier, the answer is just to squeeze yo ass in.

Rofl. Well said, sir.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 28 2014 22:37 GMT
#250
On May 29 2014 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.

they already can

lol


Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing

On May 29 2014 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.


you mean like the ones that already exist? :O


Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months.

Wtf is up with this steveling stuff?
Your last paragraph is just total bs. There already are rules against bad behaviour and host can refer to them as well as they could refer to the new ones.


but they DON'T. They CAN refer to them, but they DON'T, and at least one host has come in and said that he didn't feel comfortable, and now he does.

well some people don't feel comfortable getting into hotpants because they're too tight. some of us are born naturals.

the answer is not to make hotpants roomier, the answer is just to squeeze yo ass in.


Don't worry, we have a new change to encourage all hosts to squeeze yo ass into hotpants coming into effect
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 28 2014 22:49 GMT
#251
shiaopi, golden sun was hard to fill because it was a theme no one knew about with weird rules
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 28 2014 22:58 GMT
#252
On May 29 2014 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.

they already can

lol


Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing

On May 29 2014 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:
If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to.

+1 totally

Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment.


you mean like the ones that already exist? :O


Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months.

Wtf is up with this steveling stuff?
Your last paragraph is just total bs. There already are rules against bad behaviour and host can refer to them as well as they could refer to the new ones.


but they DON'T. They CAN refer to them, but they DON'T, and at least one host has come in and said that he didn't feel comfortable, and now he does.

well some people don't feel comfortable getting into hotpants because they're too tight. some of us are born naturals.

the answer is not to make hotpants roomier, the answer is just to squeeze yo ass in.


Surely the answer is to encourage those who are worried to try it, they'll look good
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
May 28 2014 23:13 GMT
#253
On May 29 2014 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm okay, that's a fair point.

EDIT: I really didn't think it like that because to me it doesn't matter, maybe for some ppl it does.

Appropriate smiley...Rayn's town
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 28 2014 23:14 GMT
#254
ya i mean just as long as i dont get banned for stupid shit i dont care
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 28 2014 23:32 GMT
#255
On May 29 2014 08:14 kushm4sta wrote:
ya i mean just as long as i dont get banned for stupid shit i dont care

Don't do stupid shit then. God you're such a whiny whore Koshi. It's like Rayn hasn't been there to give it to you like you like it and Marv isn't picking up the slack.

I'd write more but I'm not even quite sure that I haven't gone over the line already.

User was warned for this post
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 28 2014 23:32 GMT
#256
And then I realized it wasn't Koshi... So much fail.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 28 2014 23:37 GMT
#257
I come in for the scraps
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#258
I'm just stunned. Like I thought it was pretty obvious by how over the top it was that I was being exceptionally sarcastic. I'm not quite sure how to respond to this; like my sheer stupidity of not being able to recognize the difference between Koshi and Kustm4sta or the fact that someone took it seriously.

Like is it now not allowed to say, "Last I knew, barring some recent conversion therapy, you happen to like pricks." To Marv.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#259
i thikn you got warned for using the phrase "whiny whore"?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#260
Personally, I would like to know how much ad revenue the TL mafia forum makes for teamliquid then make certain demands or threaten to strike. I want a better pm system. And I want a better filter system like they have at mafiascum.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
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