EPTTo the last bit, no you should not. To be perfectly honest I would not put much weigh on his arguments based on what i have seen and how he has acted before.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
To the last bit, no you should not. To be perfectly honest I would not put much weigh on his arguments based on what i have seen and how he has acted before. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
EDIT: I really didn't think it like that because to me it doesn't matter, maybe for some ppl it does.  | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:02 ShiaoPi wrote: The change is more within the tone of the subforum in general. Changing the rules like this makes it more "official" and "accepted" for players, who might be unhappy with this if it were just brought in by some hosts. At least I as host feel more empowered to actually moderate more heavily and not suffer the backlash of being a "nazi mod/fascist host or whatever" for trying to keep games civil Do you really think there would be people protesting if you moderated bad behaviour right now? If so then THAT is the problem - not the rules. Because if you put it in your OP that behaviour will be moderated strictly then noone has the right to go against that and I am pretty sure that noone will. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:07 ShiaoPi wrote: I do think that if I started to do that before this discussion I would have gotten some kind of backlash, either in form of banlistthread drama or just by people not joining my games. I don't think so. Why don't you try and see if that is the case before changing the rules? And if you feel confident enough to do your job like you should after this discussion then fine - this thread did its job. But the rulechange still is not needed and should not be made. | ||
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justanothertownie
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:07 ShiaoPi wrote: I do think that if I started to do that before this discussion I would have gotten some kind of backlash, either in form of banlistthread drama or just by people not joining my games. The last two banlist drama's have nothing to do with this and you should not be "afraid" of you doing something turning into another one. Also reasonble people join reasonable people's games. There is no way you can please everyone (for real). You just have to choose what you do and what you do not do regarding that. Please do not be afraid to enforce something in your games, some people will always disagree for some reason. Hosting games is what keeps mafia alive because without hosts there are no games. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:11 justanothertownie wrote: If more hosts think like you then that is the problem we are facing here. Don't be afraid of backlash and host the way you intent to. +1 totally | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote: Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment. they already can lol | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote: Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" is easy for someone like you or me who fears no-one. If a host, especially a new or inexperienced host, can point to official TL Mafia rules, then s/he will feel safer meting out punishment. you mean like the ones that already exist? :O | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing On May 29 2014 07:21 Holyflare wrote: you mean like the ones that already exist? :O Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote: Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months. +1 | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:20 Koshi wrote: not even the Grinch? On May 29 2014 07:20 Koshi wrote: badasses <3<3<33<3 Koshi *got banned for spam* | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote: Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months. imo this is the reason why this particular thread exists..... I agree with what you are saying but still.. | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote: Well obviously not since steveling got off with nothing Even if the change is entirely symbolic (which people argue it is, but hten also argue it's bad for some reason) the symbolic change is meaningful for hosts to actually crack down. Just saying "don't be afraid of backlash" or "crack down on bad behavior" doesn't work, and hasn't worked for the past 6 months. Wtf is up with this steveling stuff? Your last paragraph is just total bs. There already are rules against bad behaviour and host can refer to them as well as they could refer to the new ones. | ||
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justanothertownie
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