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Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 10 2014 20:17 GMT
#1534
On June 11 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 04:43 Amiko wrote:
Palmar didn't do anything to convince me that the reason he should be lynched (mderg is the most likely town of the three based on n2 roleblock) was incorrect; quite the opposite - like I said, he raised a point that made this more likely.

Why is it bullheaded to not change your mind when you aren't given reason to change your mind, and are actually given support for your opinion?

To the bolded: What could he have done? There is nothing he could have said about that. The only thing he can do is try to convince you that he is town/one of the others is scum apart from that and if that argument is everything you care about he could aswell have not posted at all.


If he convinced me there was a better heuristic to use than the n2 roleblock. I didn't see any and I don't think he did either.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 20:20:42
June 10 2014 20:19 GMT
#1537
(except I was right)
The heuristic was right, and the analysis was right. It was wrong because scum's intended action didn't go through.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 10 2014 21:24 GMT
#1544
I don't really mind people criticizing me >_< please don't take me disagreeing as anything other than wanting more explanation. I am super pleased to get feedback from other people on my play this game, and I should have said so already. Thanks to marvellosity, justanothertownie, Koshi, and Blazinghand for the feedback on what I did well or poorly - this is helpful to me and I do want to keep rethinking points of my play. I feel even if I don't enjoy a game I should be able to take things from it to improve.

My confusion to you guys on Palmar is sort of this-
It seems to me like you read Palmar as town d4 due to two parts of meta (Palmar-meta and TL-meta).
I do feel I looked into Palmar meta and didn't give me support either way - it's fine to say he doesn't post like that as scum getting lynched, but I didn't see him post like that as town getting lynched, so it's a wildcard. I felt he was likely to post a ton more on d4 if he was a lynch target given his low activity d2 and d3, so to me it all felt pretty much in line with expectations.
I don't really know TL-meta enough to use it, but I'm a little surprised (and honestly, kind of disappointed) to hear that scum players don't put up that kind of defense on this site. I don't know if that would convince me, though

As to Blazinghand, I don't really know which option to take as to the mislynch yet - I feel like (as most things in my play do) what I do will just depend more on the specific game than an overriding heuristic. That was kinda what I meant earlier - here, I felt that game was the best heuristic, but largely because I couldn't use many others.
Oh and just to be clear, although the host error added an unpleasant aftertaste, please understand I don't mind at all. I think it would have been bad if the game was cancelled (particularly for players like bunnies, it would suck to have 3 games cancelled in a row) so I think your call was the best given the situation. These things happen and even if it threw me off, when I found out mderg was scum I was incredibly impressed he would make that play! It may not have actually happened, but it was neat to feel like I was so wrong, lol.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 21:41:53
June 10 2014 21:41 GMT
#1546
Hopefully I'll have the chance to try someday :D
(I was bummed to lose the chance to be scum, oh well)
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