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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 01:01 GMT
#3401
ah that was game 2. ok. i don't really remember you that game :p only the first when you were mafia ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:03 GMT
#3402
lol.. well that first one was shocking hahah

I did hydra with rayn on this account as scum.

We were in sync; everyone town read us, i got bored and claimed scum for fun.

It hink that was my last game on TL.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 16 2014 01:04 GMT
#3403
On June 16 2014 10:00 roundabound wrote:
27bunnies:
I stayed onto Keto for a majority of the cycle. I don't see what is scummy about jumping off a 1 vote wagon; to consolidate with alt. reads?

Regarding the rest; you are taking it out of context. But hey, no cb right?

~moc


Hmm, guess I'll have to do a bit of filter diving, but okay.

I'll leave it alone for now.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:07 GMT
#3404
anyways for some further transparency.

The 4 ppl me n Robik are treating as highest priority for detailed diving are:

SnB
CR
Yam
MIF

He dosent agree with Keto; so im willing to sideline this one for a little bit.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 16 2014 01:09 GMT
#3405
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.

Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side

Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC


People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.

People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.

[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]

Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.


Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.


roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:11 GMT
#3406
Man, tehpoofter n me.
Very similar page

Sweet.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 01:12 GMT
#3407
i'm ok with most of those reads. still tempted to stick with my sinani townread though, also maybe yam is town after all even though i almost killed him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 16 2014 01:12 GMT
#3408
On June 16 2014 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:47 roundabound wrote:
We got a window to chat about 4hrs ago.

Aside from that, fuck all.
We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments.

~moc

it's fairly worrying how it seems like you're essentially playing 2 different games within one slot.

i have robik shedding silly suspicion on me across multiple posts, and i have you acknowledging that i am pretty obviously town. i have robik not knowing what cases you've been pusihing. it's quite disconcerting and i don't like it. i don't know what it means though.


To me it feels like I feel when I'm in a game with Robik and he is village he spouts off a whole bunch of stuff that makes me think he is a villager even if I don't agree with all of it. As wolf I think they would make a point of making sure they were holding the party line on who they thought was what and why. At least thats my 2 cents.

Also reads coming up

i've played with a lot of hydras (indeed in 2 hydra-only games) and that's actually not usually the case, even though it sounds like it should be.


Wow really? That is surprising I've never hydrad or seen a wolf hydra that I recall they've all been villager. I will rethink a bit but I really am reading robik as wolf and Moc as village for agreeing with me on Ketowolf.

(Hydra only game sounds fun)
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 16 2014 01:13 GMT
#3409
On June 16 2014 10:12 marvellosity wrote:
i'm ok with most of those reads. still tempted to stick with my sinani townread though, also maybe yam is town after all even though i almost killed him.


after I kinda talked to him he moved up a bit but I'm not letting him go that easy he needs to do more. Sinani I need to read him on filter I honestly forgot about him so I put him in lurkers but will reassess when I get a chance tonight. Want to get cases on keto/Chariman done first.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:14 GMT
#3410
Im null on Sinani.

I disagree in full with Keto case on Sinani (as I already disproved);
however, I dont note anything from him beyond his 2 cases mid Day1.

For me his biggest sticking point is that he has used my disproval as a defense for himself; yet, has denied it (whilst contributing nothign further)
~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 01:14 GMT
#3411
On June 16 2014 10:12 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:47 roundabound wrote:
We got a window to chat about 4hrs ago.

Aside from that, fuck all.
We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments.

~moc

it's fairly worrying how it seems like you're essentially playing 2 different games within one slot.

i have robik shedding silly suspicion on me across multiple posts, and i have you acknowledging that i am pretty obviously town. i have robik not knowing what cases you've been pusihing. it's quite disconcerting and i don't like it. i don't know what it means though.


To me it feels like I feel when I'm in a game with Robik and he is village he spouts off a whole bunch of stuff that makes me think he is a villager even if I don't agree with all of it. As wolf I think they would make a point of making sure they were holding the party line on who they thought was what and why. At least thats my 2 cents.

Also reads coming up

i've played with a lot of hydras (indeed in 2 hydra-only games) and that's actually not usually the case, even though it sounds like it should be.


Wow really? That is surprising I've never hydrad or seen a wolf hydra that I recall they've all been villager. I will rethink a bit but I really am reading robik as wolf and Moc as village for agreeing with me on Ketowolf.

(Hydra only game sounds fun)

strange that you have them so town given your disquiet over robik
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:16 GMT
#3412
On June 16 2014 10:12 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:47 roundabound wrote:
We got a window to chat about 4hrs ago.

Aside from that, fuck all.
We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments.

~moc

it's fairly worrying how it seems like you're essentially playing 2 different games within one slot.

i have robik shedding silly suspicion on me across multiple posts, and i have you acknowledging that i am pretty obviously town. i have robik not knowing what cases you've been pusihing. it's quite disconcerting and i don't like it. i don't know what it means though.


To me it feels like I feel when I'm in a game with Robik and he is village he spouts off a whole bunch of stuff that makes me think he is a villager even if I don't agree with all of it. As wolf I think they would make a point of making sure they were holding the party line on who they thought was what and why. At least thats my 2 cents.

Also reads coming up

i've played with a lot of hydras (indeed in 2 hydra-only games) and that's actually not usually the case, even though it sounds like it should be.


Wow really? That is surprising I've never hydrad or seen a wolf hydra that I recall they've all been villager. I will rethink a bit but I really am reading robik as wolf and Moc as village for agreeing with me on Ketowolf.

(Hydra only game sounds fun)

You shouldnt town read me just for agreeing on one case.
Hopefully you liked my approach to dealing and trying to understand Keto instead.

As for the hydra; I think the situation marv is referring to specifically does occur when a mafia hydra is under pressure and both ppl are posting off the cuff /(read: bullshitting) at the same time.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 01:16 GMT
#3413
definitely going to read ketomai more carefully at some point, i remember being ok with him being a counterwagon on d1 even though that never materialised, so there must be something there.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 01:17 GMT
#3414
On June 16 2014 10:16 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:12 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
On June 16 2014 09:47 roundabound wrote:
We got a window to chat about 4hrs ago.

Aside from that, fuck all.
We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments.

~moc

it's fairly worrying how it seems like you're essentially playing 2 different games within one slot.

i have robik shedding silly suspicion on me across multiple posts, and i have you acknowledging that i am pretty obviously town. i have robik not knowing what cases you've been pusihing. it's quite disconcerting and i don't like it. i don't know what it means though.


To me it feels like I feel when I'm in a game with Robik and he is village he spouts off a whole bunch of stuff that makes me think he is a villager even if I don't agree with all of it. As wolf I think they would make a point of making sure they were holding the party line on who they thought was what and why. At least thats my 2 cents.

Also reads coming up

i've played with a lot of hydras (indeed in 2 hydra-only games) and that's actually not usually the case, even though it sounds like it should be.


Wow really? That is surprising I've never hydrad or seen a wolf hydra that I recall they've all been villager. I will rethink a bit but I really am reading robik as wolf and Moc as village for agreeing with me on Ketowolf.

(Hydra only game sounds fun)

You shouldnt town read me just for agreeing on one case.
Hopefully you liked my approach to dealing and trying to understand Keto instead.

As for the hydra; I think the situation marv is referring to specifically does occur when a mafia hydra is under pressure and both ppl are posting off the cuff /(read: bullshitting) at the same time.

~moc

no, that's not what i was referring to. my example with syllo/sandro wasn't a case of that. VE/whoever it was in that first game were also mafia because they weren't playing the same game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:19 GMT
#3415
well remember marv. timezones are important too.
me n robik are literally 12hrs apart.
The only reason im talking to him in live convo is due to the cup games being atr very bad times for me

Thank goodness, the games have all been worthwhile watchign though !

Forza italia

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 01:20 GMT
#3416
i'll forza your italia at this rate.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:20 GMT
#3417
Are we going to get an official resolution on the 5 to 6 ppl that did not vote
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 16 2014 01:21 GMT
#3418
On June 16 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
i'll forza your italia at this rate.

c'mon

twas a good game.

Still that van persie header, man.. that was freaking amazing.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 16 2014 01:21 GMT
#3419
On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.

Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side

Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC


People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.

People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.

[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]

Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.


Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.




poofter I gave a big analysis on chrom, was ignored, asked for feedback and was ignored. I hate to sound like I'm beating a dead horse, but if nobody is gonna give me the time of day to even consider what I say then why bother making a big analysis again. If people thought I was wrong, I wanted feedback on why I was wrong, not silence.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 01:25 GMT
#3420
Exo it's not always so simple as saying "this is wrong for x,y,and z reasons"

sometimes you just don't feel things or don't really agree even though you can't say why very well.

Rest assured I am reading and evaluating all your posts, and i pay attention to everyone's posts. so don't not play just because you're not receiving the feedback you want, just keep at it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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