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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:33 27ninjabunnies wrote: Gut read. And I've played I think 2 games with Slam so far? He's been town, and it seems in this game he's town as well. Plus his responses to me haven't been off. Something wrong with my read? just seems pretty flimsy to be so confidently asserting he's town. | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
On June 16 2014 05:25 27ninjabunnies wrote: Helloooooo Boys  I'm completely caught up with the game, so if you have any questions at all for me on certain people or cases, ask away. I know Errandor didn't contribute jack shit, but I'm hoping I can bring some thoughts and such and lynch some mafia! So, a few thoughts/ things I've noticed. @Roundabound- Robik is town. Mocsta is mafia. Sorry, Rob, but mocsta's scuminess outweighs your towniness. Lynch/shoot them as well. On June 16 2014 06:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:B] For Round- Like I said, Rob part is reading townie to me, Mocsta part is reading scummy. Mocsta outweighs rob's townieness. But day 1 Rob was townie, asking questions, completely disagreeing with the half of his hydra. Seems a little ballsy for them to be mafia from Rob's pov. Mocsta-however, idk. His reads don't sit with me. Also, i found it weird he was willing to go with any wagon being haru and yamato) over a read on keto that he had been pushing quite a bit. Rainbows- Idk. I was iffy about the whole Haru/Rainbows thing, as I was reading haru pretty townie, and rainbows not so townie. I played detention mafia with him, and though he wasn't super like detention mafia, it seemed he was playing slightly similar. Rainbows- never played with i don't think. Not sure how to read, so null. One - Thanks for beign an active follower. Its pretty clear you have a good idea of the thread. This is a refreshing change. Based on impetus alone, I am willing to give you a town lean; or at the least, benefit of the doubt. Regarding myself. I find your reads in general completely tunneled and association-based towards interactions with an unflipped me. This is poor play in general. Many times in your filter you have said "XYZ" is town or scum, because of how they talked to me. A rethink is needed I think; and if you believe those players are genuinely mafia, you should be able to delve into mindset quite easily. Further, your synopsis is wrong. Robik and I have barely had any joint conversation before ewntering the thread. Hes been away when im here; and vice versa. In addition, I continually pushed the keto read all cycle. Your summary is far fetched. I only changed votes towards the very end when consolidation was critical. This is well document in my filter; yet, somehow you miss this??? Confirmation bias???? Regarding rainbows; he is town. On par with Marv this game. No offence, but given you are one of the few players to state you preferred Haru over Rainbows; and I know you are wrong on me. I can not take your stance on Rainbows seriously. He is town for approach, mindset & conviction. ~moc | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:37 marvellosity wrote: just seems pretty flimsy to be so confidently asserting he's town. If it was flimsy, I wouldn't be confident. | ||
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marvellosity
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:40 27ninjabunnies wrote: If it was flimsy, I wouldn't be confident. I'm shocked to think you have a Slam dunk read on him. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:39 roundabound wrote: One - Thanks for beign an active follower. Its pretty clear you have a good idea of the thread. This is a refreshing change. Based on impetus alone, I am willing to give you a town lean; or at the least, benefit of the doubt. Regarding myself. I find your reads in general completely tunneled and association-based towards interactions with an unflipped me. This is poor play in general. Many times in your filter you have said "XYZ" is town or scum, because of how they talked to me. A rethink is needed I think; and if you believe those players are genuinely mafia, you should be able to delve into mindset quite easily. Further, your synopsis is wrong. Robik and I have barely had any joint conversation before ewntering the thread. Hes been away when im here; and vice versa. In addition, I continually pushed the keto read all cycle. Your summary is far fetched. I only changed votes towards the very end when consolidation was critical. This is well document in my filter; yet, somehow you miss this??? Confirmation bias???? Regarding rainbows; he is town. On par with Marv this game. No offence, but given you are one of the few players to state you preferred Haru over Rainbows; and I know you are wrong on me. I can not take your stance on Rainbows seriously. He is town for approach, mindset & conviction. ~moc Kay, I'll go ahead and address a few things. 1. Im not sure if I ever based a read on how they interacted with you? Maybe I did, but do not remember this off the top of my head. Also, my read on you is based, as stated above, the wagon between haru and yamato and not really pushing your read on keto. IT seemed to me as if you were just willing to go with any lynch- which is more of a mafia thing to do. I didn't read every single post in your filter, just skimmed, but if you did have sme consolidation, point it out to me, because I did miss it. Also, my Rainbows stance is null-fenced. You can't take this seriously? And because I'm wrng on you, it means I'm wrong on everyone else? Anyone else see something wrong with these statements? | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
Aside from that, fuck all. We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments. ~moc | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:43 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm shocked to think you have a Slam dunk read on him. I prob laughed a bit harder than necessary on that.. Also, gut read. Like I said, him in this game seems much like the town games I played with him. I don't think it was flimsy at all, marv, but I have a little biasy towards my own reads. But if koshi wants to shoot him, who am I to stop him? I'm just giving the read I think. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
~moc | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:47 roundabound wrote: We got a window to chat about 4hrs ago. Aside from that, fuck all. We've talked a few times, but its all been superficial i dont liek xyz, but no counter arguments. ~moc it's fairly worrying how it seems like you're essentially playing 2 different games within one slot. i have robik shedding silly suspicion on me across multiple posts, and i have you acknowledging that i am pretty obviously town. i have robik not knowing what cases you've been pusihing. it's quite disconcerting and i don't like it. i don't know what it means though. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:50 marvellosity wrote: i have gut reads all the time, but it usually leads me to present those reads as "i think x may be town" or "i don't really think y is scum" rather than "this guy is town" I'm just a bit more assured in my read, I suppose? Idk. I think whether or nt I said "Slam is more likely town" than "Slam is town" makes no difference. I think he is town. Gave reasons why. | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
I had the same problem in the Hydra only game where I was with GoodKarma. ~moc | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:56 roundabound wrote: What it means is pretty straight forward. 2 guys with different approaches who have not gelled yet. I had the same problem in the Hydra only game where I was with GoodKarma. ~moc weren't you mafia that game? o.o | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote: it's fairly worrying how it seems like you're essentially playing 2 different games within one slot. i have robik shedding silly suspicion on me across multiple posts, and i have you acknowledging that i am pretty obviously town. i have robik not knowing what cases you've been pusihing. it's quite disconcerting and i don't like it. i don't know what it means though. To me it feels like I feel when I'm in a game with Robik and he is village he spouts off a whole bunch of stuff that makes me think he is a villager even if I don't agree with all of it. As wolf I think they would make a point of making sure they were holding the party line on who they thought was what and why. At least thats my 2 cents. Also reads coming up | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 16 2014 09:58 Tehpoofter wrote: To me it feels like I feel when I'm in a game with Robik and he is village he spouts off a whole bunch of stuff that makes me think he is a villager even if I don't agree with all of it. As wolf I think they would make a point of making sure they were holding the party line on who they thought was what and why. At least thats my 2 cents. Also reads coming up i've played with a lot of hydras (indeed in 2 hydra-only games) and that's actually not usually the case, even though it sounds like it should be. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
I stayed onto Keto for a majority of the cycle. I don't see what is scummy about jumping off a 1 vote wagon; to consolidate with alt. reads? Regarding the rest; you are taking it out of context. But hey, no cb right? ~moc | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
NO ! we were town that won the game with a nuke no scum ! (having said that it was a perfect game) ~moc | ||
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