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On June 27 2014 03:32 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Teemu, now that Nydus has flipped green, how do you read Epishade?
Actually, what's your read on tambourine and tehpoofter? I still think Epishade is scum. I think Nydus really just came up with some read to appear more towny, since he didn't really have the attention spam for the game, as he said himself. I can never read Tambo, but what he's doing right now is his own way of pressuring people, I think. Haru's been one of my stronger town reads and he's reacting kind of poorly to the pressure, but it really could be the other way around as well. Banks (tehpoofter) I have as null. He hasn't really posted as much analysis/reads yet (he's a very good player), but I -really- appreciate that he's trying to get people voting and posting lists.
What do you think of Cats now? If you think Epi is scum, why do you think more mafia did not vote Nydus? It was so close, if just Cats switched it would have been Epi lynched.
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On June 27 2014 03:57 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 20:26 meatpudding wrote:On June 26 2014 20:03 mtamburini wrote:On June 26 2014 13:57 meatpudding wrote:On June 26 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:
My town reads are the people that are up for bandwagons aside from me ._. I'm going to ##Vote: mtamburini because he's actually being visibly scummy On June 26 2014 11:16 GlowingBear wrote:I'm on a mobile so it will be hard to quote two posts. But I was voting on meatpudding because of his, IMO, weak reasoning when he voted on Haru and not on Kotc, whom I held as scum. It was like meatpudding was trying to protect his scum partner. That was my read at the moment. After, the reason I've revealed in this post of mine: On June 24 2014 01:27 GlowingBear wrote:Teemu On meatpudding: " IF you had the choice to narrow voting to two candidates, would you choose me and Cats, or me and Tolkien?" This is odd. And then, this was his answer to Teemu "I'm interested in your opinions on Cats and Tolkien because I think further investigation on those two is warranted. I'm leaning to think one of them is mafia. I wanted your opinion now so I can get a read on how you place your vote. But as you said, things will change when day starts so I'm not sure how well you can be held to such an early call." Okay, so, supposed meatpudding is Mafia. What is he looking for with that question? Well, in my point of view, he is trying to know who is getting votes so him and his partners can set up a strategy as Mafia. If you have a misread on Tolkien, in example, it would be a good opportunity to Mafia to bandwagon him, saving meatpudding and Kotc (in case Kotc is mafia). That is the information he would pursue with that question, if meatpudding is scum. If he is town and is just gathering information... well... I don't think he would ask in such way... it would be something like "could you give me your reads on Tolkien and Cats?" I know this is not the strongest read, but this theory gets stronger with meatpudding's next post, putting Tolkien as scum and Cats as on the fence: On June 23 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:On June 23 2014 21:41 The_Templar wrote:On June 23 2014 12:31 meatpudding wrote:On June 23 2014 12:26 The_Templar wrote:
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Cool, but can you please offer your insight on you vs MM? Teemu isn't quite relevant right now I think. Yes, I know. I also want to write up my thoughts on you and Cats. I'm keeping up with the thread but I don't have a read on MM. Other than what Tolkien said about lurkers being scum, I don't know. I have the net 30mins free but only so much I can type. I'm basically voting to save myself and help town. Since you didn't do anything about you and MM, can I see these thoughts or are you going to do nothing this night? I was going through KotC's posts when the lynch was taking place. I kind of couldn't make up my mind, even after MM flipped. I was not happy to vote for MM, because the case against him didn't convince me completely. His own reactions caused a lot of suspicion though. I can't call Cats or Tolkien scum based on that alone. Right now my thoughts are Teemu - potential scum Tolkien - potential scum Cats - fence Templar - town Alright, now on Kotc: On June 23 2014 10:15 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 23 2014 09:40 Hobbitus wrote:On June 23 2014 09:20 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 23 2014 08:49 Hobbitus wrote:
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Whoa there, bucko. If you don't give reads, regardless of your meta, you are going to look suspicious. Instead of getting pissy that people are (quite reasonably) suspicious of you, why don't you give us some reads? Other than on MM, you haven't done so, and I suspect the only reason you did so for him was so you had someone to vote on. THAT seems scummy to me. I don't make long posts where i list everyone that's playing and say if i think they're slightly X or slightly Y because of Z. It's just not the way i play. I pick out things that i think need addressing and run with them. I push my strongest scumreads and only point out why i think people are town if they're looking like they might get lynched. Doing anything else seems like a waste of time to me. As an aside if you ignore your scumread on me (just humour me, assume i'm town for the time being) what do you think of my points against MysteryMeat? That's fine, not everyone's play style needs to be the same, and yes, it is super time consuming  But it's weird to not post any reads until close to the deadline, and then to only post one. Even two would be much better, so I know you aren't scum keeping your options open. So you think MM is mafia, who is your second in line? How is not pressuring anyone other than your scummiest scum beneficial to the town? We both know that it's most likely that meatpudding will be lynched tonight, and if we don't see MM flip, we really have no information on you at all. Do you see where I'm coming from? If you are town, I agree that MM does seem a little scummy, thus my on the fence read. His main post seems really careless, picking out really trivial stuff to base his reads off of, just like he's not putting in a lot of effort. Bad town or mafia? Dunno. As for his attack on you specifically, I think it was as fairly baseless as his reads on everyone else. I don't know if that's enough to vote him though. Pressuring your strongest scumread as much as possible will make them post more to defend themselves thus allowing you to read their thought processes and see if they make sense. They'll either dig themselves into a deeper hole by being inconsistent or dig themselves out of it by posting things that logically follow on from each other from a townie prospective, potentially nullifying a scumread or turning it into a townread and allowing you to move on to the other scummy people on your list. It's all about being as sure as possible that your read is correct. As for a second in line well i'd be happy to see meatpudding go because it would either confirm a lot of town or give me the chance to pick apart the reasons people gave for voting him. For the purpose of gathering information on other players his lynch is certainly the best. I don't know what to think of this. He is right if meatpudding flips green. But if meatpudding flips red... I think Kotc is the next to me lynched. And if only Kotc is red and knows meatpudding will flip green, this is his chance to blend in town. Difficult do analyze. Ok, I'll do more later, including Haru's request. I tried to read the whole thread but it is INSANE to keep up all the information. My head it hurting a lot LOL @meatpudding I need to filter dive him, but I'm still on the fence. But as I said, as it is getting really confused. Somehow I believe we are in a Town VS Town perspective and Mafia is just sitting, lurking, watching us killing ourselves. I also beige that that is why Tolkien died, he was going after the non-contributors. I'm going to do that now, so If Nidus does not start contributing more, he will be my next target. On June 26 2014 12:48 Teemursu wrote:On June 26 2014 12:47 The_Templar wrote:On June 26 2014 12:45 Teemursu wrote:
I have a feeling that jabber might get modkilled. Templar and Bear maybe put your votes somewhere else? Idk. I don't know who else I'd vote for, I haven't kept up very well and I'm off in 13ish minutes.  I'm only sticking around just in case something spectacular happens, like mtam posts more dancing ladies I think Epishade, Nydus or MeatPudding are great votes. I'm not sure if mafia votes were required at all in that result. This may clear Epi and confirm him as town. I don't read too much into KotC's push on Nydus because Nydus was defending himself poorly. Explain how epi is clear and what you think of me. Let's start with the most obvious statement. Mafia votes were distributed between Nydus, Epi and Jabber. Nydus and Epishade were the two main wagons. Voting for Jabber is basically vote hiding because he left the thread and didn't give any defence for himself. Because it took only 3 votes, it could have gone either way. Mafia made no attempt to push on Nydus or save Epi. Either lynch would have been fine, therefore Epi is town. The WIFOM of that, is that mafia waited last minute to make sure Epi had votes, but not enough for a lynch (unlikely). I think you haven't made any meaningful contribution so far. The only thing that's slightly scummy is that you arrived into the tread so close to EOD. I don't think we could have avoided a mislynch D2 so we'll just have to accept what happened and evaluate over again. Also, as usual, meatpudding's reads are largely weird. Why would mafia save nydus or push epi? Why can't the opposite be true? His conclusion on why epi is town doesn't confirm anything. In fact, you can say that scum could have helped epi be off the hook by lynching nydus instead. WIFOM is WIFOM.
You might have misread this? I said if Epi was scum, there would have been a push on Nydus.
Would you vote Epi again, seeing that mafia did nothing to stop you?
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On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this?
UNLESS jabb is scum. Then there will be only one scum voter on Nydus.
Which actually looks more plausible to me.
Townies, participating is crucial to win by now. If mafia get a kill now, there will be only 6 of us and probably 4 mafia. Easy prey to mafia. So we need to discuss A LOT to get the next lynch right
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On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this?
There is 4 mafia?
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On June 27 2014 08:28 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this? There is 4 mafia?
I'm assuming there are 4 mafia for the roles on the OP
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On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this?
I think that the likelyhood of all the mafia being on 2 seperate votes to be unlikely. I imagine if they know mislynches are a bout they spread. I need to read EoD though stupid work is busy so I'm not able to just chill out and read for like an hour or 2 I need.
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On June 27 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this? I think that the likelyhood of all the mafia being on 2 seperate votes to be unlikely. I imagine if they know mislynches are a bout they spread. I need to read EoD though stupid work is busy so I'm not able to just chill out and read for like an hour or 2 I need.
This would mean some town reads of mine would be scums.
Could you filter dive Hobbitus when you've got the time? I like your opinions.
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Back, reading through thread.
On June 27 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
So temp and glowing bear. Why did you both change your votes to jabber?
…I made it pretty clear and meatpudding was actually doing something at that point.
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On June 27 2014 06:15 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:03 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... Sorry if I missed it in earlier post but I know you said you switched because he was lurking but do you think meat was still scum at that time or did he become town. And what's your current read on meat now I still believe he is scum because of his contradictions and his passivity (? Is this a word?), but at the moment I considered he could be just a bad town and that we were in a Town VS Town scenario in which mafia was comfortably sitting and watching us killing ourselves. I thought that way after realising our scumreads on Tolkien and MysteryMeat1 were based mostly on contradictions and that they flipped green So looking back at the voting records of day 2 there were four votes on meat then someone unvoted and then you unvoted when there were 3 left to go onto someone who has the potential to be mod killed. His role is going to get revealed when he is modkilled so why not vote elsewhere you think scum is?
Why were you so sure he would be modkilled? We already had a modkill and used our replacements, so the hosts were probably looking for replacements already, no…?
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On June 27 2014 07:55 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia. Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though. I really really really dont understand the need for editing a post if your town. Its a personal thing. Im not sure how I would be feeling about Nydus now if I choose to go after Teemu first. Hes participating a lot and giving me something to read him. Going into tomorrow I think the Templar needs to be looked at as well as the people who voted on Teemu. Templar hasnt given me an explanation on his vote on Jabber yet so I want to hear his reasoning, and well the people who voted on the person who I think is the most town right now for obvious reasons (I think he is town). More specifically I would like to know what they thought of Teemu when they voted and why the voted on him over anyone else.
are you fucking kidding me?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?page=66#1315
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On June 27 2014 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
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Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this? I think that the likelyhood of all the mafia being on 2 seperate votes to be unlikely. I imagine if they know mislynches are a bout they spread. I need to read EoD though stupid work is busy so I'm not able to just chill out and read for like an hour or 2 I need. This would mean some town reads of mine would be scums. Could you filter dive Hobbitus when you've got the time? I like your opinions.
I'll try to get to it when I can atm not finding a lot of work time.
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On June 27 2014 08:13 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:55 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia. Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though. I really really really dont understand the need for editing a post if your town. Its a personal thing. Im not sure how I would be feeling about Nydus now if I choose to go after Teemu first. Hes participating a lot and giving me something to read him. Going into tomorrow I think the Templar needs to be looked at as well as the people who voted on Teemu. Templar hasnt given me an explanation on his vote on Jabber yet so I want to hear his reasoning, and well the people who voted on the person who I think is the most town right now for obvious reasons (I think he is town). More specifically I would like to know what they thought of Teemu when they voted and why the voted on him over anyone else. I think that editing your posts in your first game is a misunderstanding of how the game works I know teemu said he was fixing a misquote/typo or something. I don't find it very alignment indicative. Your vote is weird I find this line weird did you really just vote because of it or was there more? (apologies if you said it I am not fully caught up) Also I liked templar's interections when I got into thread and Teemu needs to keep up the activity he is my strongest town atm.
It started off as a serious vote, that turned into a way to get a read off him which he didnt give me so I thought he had given up.
He was in and out of the forum and didnt make any attempt to defend himself.
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On June 27 2014 08:54 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:55 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia. Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though. I really really really dont understand the need for editing a post if your town. Its a personal thing. Im not sure how I would be feeling about Nydus now if I choose to go after Teemu first. Hes participating a lot and giving me something to read him. Going into tomorrow I think the Templar needs to be looked at as well as the people who voted on Teemu. Templar hasnt given me an explanation on his vote on Jabber yet so I want to hear his reasoning, and well the people who voted on the person who I think is the most town right now for obvious reasons (I think he is town). More specifically I would like to know what they thought of Teemu when they voted and why the voted on him over anyone else. are you fucking kidding me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?page=66#1315
I wasnt in the thread at that point in the game calm your tits.
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your Country52796 Posts
On June 27 2014 09:00 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:54 The_Templar wrote:On June 27 2014 07:55 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia. Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though. I really really really dont understand the need for editing a post if your town. Its a personal thing. Im not sure how I would be feeling about Nydus now if I choose to go after Teemu first. Hes participating a lot and giving me something to read him. Going into tomorrow I think the Templar needs to be looked at as well as the people who voted on Teemu. Templar hasnt given me an explanation on his vote on Jabber yet so I want to hear his reasoning, and well the people who voted on the person who I think is the most town right now for obvious reasons (I think he is town). More specifically I would like to know what they thought of Teemu when they voted and why the voted on him over anyone else. are you fucking kidding me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?page=66#1315 I wasnt in the thread at that point in the game calm your tits.
Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to come off as mean, but you really should have read at least the past few pages to catch up on what was going on, you've had nearly 24 hours now… >.>
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On June 27 2014 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
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Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this? I think that the likelyhood of all the mafia being on 2 seperate votes to be unlikely. I imagine if they know mislynches are a bout they spread. I need to read EoD though stupid work is busy so I'm not able to just chill out and read for like an hour or 2 I need. This would mean some town reads of mine would be scums. Could you filter dive Hobbitus when you've got the time? I like your opinions.
I am on the same wave length here, no1 voted on him yesterday so Im assuming everyone was reading him as town?
I dont really remember any memorable things from him tbh to make him stand out other than trying to break up the argument me and Haru were having.
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your Country52796 Posts
On June 27 2014 09:03 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:
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I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this? I think that the likelyhood of all the mafia being on 2 seperate votes to be unlikely. I imagine if they know mislynches are a bout they spread. I need to read EoD though stupid work is busy so I'm not able to just chill out and read for like an hour or 2 I need. This would mean some town reads of mine would be scums. Could you filter dive Hobbitus when you've got the time? I like your opinions. I am on the same wave length here, no1 voted on him yesterday so Im assuming everyone was reading him as town? I dont really remember any memorable things from him tbh to make him stand out other than trying to break up the argument me and Haru were having.
I wasn't really there a lot of the day but he's been a nondescript town read for me all game.
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On June 27 2014 09:02 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 09:00 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 08:54 The_Templar wrote:On June 27 2014 07:55 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia. Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though. I really really really dont understand the need for editing a post if your town. Its a personal thing. Im not sure how I would be feeling about Nydus now if I choose to go after Teemu first. Hes participating a lot and giving me something to read him. Going into tomorrow I think the Templar needs to be looked at as well as the people who voted on Teemu. Templar hasnt given me an explanation on his vote on Jabber yet so I want to hear his reasoning, and well the people who voted on the person who I think is the most town right now for obvious reasons (I think he is town). More specifically I would like to know what they thought of Teemu when they voted and why the voted on him over anyone else. are you fucking kidding me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?page=66#1315 I wasnt in the thread at that point in the game calm your tits. Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to come off as mean, but you really should have read at least the past few pages to catch up on what was going on, you've had nearly 24 hours now… >.>
Meh Id rather play on from where I am and see how people are going to interact with me now and how people are reacting to me applying pressure.
If I feel like Im in a situation where I need to go look back at day 1 I will, Id like to see the night results first just to see how my reads are as of right now.
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On June 27 2014 09:05 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 09:03 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:
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But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died.
I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this? I think that the likelyhood of all the mafia being on 2 seperate votes to be unlikely. I imagine if they know mislynches are a bout they spread. I need to read EoD though stupid work is busy so I'm not able to just chill out and read for like an hour or 2 I need. This would mean some town reads of mine would be scums. Could you filter dive Hobbitus when you've got the time? I like your opinions. I am on the same wave length here, no1 voted on him yesterday so Im assuming everyone was reading him as town? I dont really remember any memorable things from him tbh to make him stand out other than trying to break up the argument me and Haru were having. I wasn't really there a lot of the day but he's been a nondescript town read for me all game.
He also wasnt voted on day 1
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your Country52796 Posts
On June 27 2014 09:10 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 09:05 The_Templar wrote:On June 27 2014 09:03 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:
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I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom? Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak. If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum. If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum. What do you think of this? I think that the likelyhood of all the mafia being on 2 seperate votes to be unlikely. I imagine if they know mislynches are a bout they spread. I need to read EoD though stupid work is busy so I'm not able to just chill out and read for like an hour or 2 I need. This would mean some town reads of mine would be scums. Could you filter dive Hobbitus when you've got the time? I like your opinions. I am on the same wave length here, no1 voted on him yesterday so Im assuming everyone was reading him as town? I dont really remember any memorable things from him tbh to make him stand out other than trying to break up the argument me and Haru were having. I wasn't really there a lot of the day but he's been a nondescript town read for me all game. He also wasnt voted on day 1
Yeah… but what does it mean?
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