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On June 27 2014 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:03 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... Sorry if I missed it in earlier post but I know you said you switched because he was lurking but do you think meat was still scum at that time or did he become town. And what's your current read on meat now I still believe he is scum because of his contradictions and his passivity (? Is this a word?), but at the moment I considered he could be just a bad town and that we were in a Town VS Town scenario in which mafia was comfortably sitting and watching us killing ourselves. I thought that way after realising our scumreads on Tolkien and MysteryMeat1 were based mostly on contradictions and that they flipped green
So looking back at the voting records of day 2 there were four votes on meat then someone unvoted and then you unvoted when there were 3 left to go onto someone who has the potential to be mod killed. His role is going to get revealed when he is modkilled so why not vote elsewhere you think scum is?
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On June 27 2014 06:10 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 14:07 Hobbitus wrote:
But if nobody had a good case against him why was he lynched? I'm going to be taking full responsibility for the lynch. I had an initial read on nydus because as far as I knew he was excited to play this game and he didn't seemed enthusiastic in his postings. He also did that weird thing with his progression on Epishade where he went to like LOCK clear for no reason which felt like a mafia messing up his thought process plus his low posting. I think I had good reasons to think he was scummy but I should have been here for EoD I was around then had to take care of some IRL stuff and before that was playing video mafia  I will be fully catching up today at work as I still haven't. I will be much more active on the next EoD as they are important and I blew it off  So town blame me had I seen a vote of 3 2 2 knowing I was a town on the wagon I move off it always because that is like never a mafia lynch its mafia not caring. :/ Sorry. Now off to reading. Someone might have already but if it so happens that someone hasn't done a voting analysis of EoD with speculations from day 1 included I will once caught up but before then would be awesome. I think anyone that was on the nydus wagon is a good check. I do think if there was scum it would be tamburini.
I'm pretty sure teemu is town now he pulled off his vote on nydus towards eod and is think if he was scum he would've just left it there. Instead he tried to push a lynch on someone else. That's what I got this far just at my doc office when I get home I'll look at day 1 as well
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I have already answered that question less than 10 minutes ago:
On June 27 2014 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
So temp and glowing bear. Why did you both change your votes to jabber? I was reading meatpudding as scum but as I dived into his filters it started to sound like poor town playing. When diving through other filters, I've realised everybody was making some kind of sense and, therefore, we should be in a TvT situation where scum were just lurking watching us killing ourselves. By this time, jabb started avoiding answering questions, just pointing out that he wasn't a girl (filter dive him and judge yourself if he wasn't behaving in a strange way) I then decided to go against lurkers because of this. I started with Haru, but more to pressure, because I had a town read on him. Jabb strange behaviour made me go against him. Nydus was my second target because of the lurking, so there was no need to protect him. Probably a bad decision. My problem is... It's a newbie game and people are contradicting themselves like hell. We had a scumread on both MM1 and Tolkien at the time, and both flipped green. Now Nydus.
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Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ?
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On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ?
I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video.
You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct?
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On June 27 2014 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:I have already answered that question less than 10 minutes ago: Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
So temp and glowing bear. Why did you both change your votes to jabber? I was reading meatpudding as scum but as I dived into his filters it started to sound like poor town playing. When diving through other filters, I've realised everybody was making some kind of sense and, therefore, we should be in a TvT situation where scum were just lurking watching us killing ourselves. By this time, jabb started avoiding answering questions, just pointing out that he wasn't a girl (filter dive him and judge yourself if he wasn't behaving in a strange way) I then decided to go against lurkers because of this. I started with Haru, but more to pressure, because I had a town read on him. Jabb strange behaviour made me go against him. Nydus was my second target because of the lurking, so there was no need to protect him. Probably a bad decision. My problem is... It's a newbie game and people are contradicting themselves like hell. We had a scumread on both MM1 and Tolkien at the time, and both flipped green. Now Nydus.
Why leave your vote on someone who is prob going to get modkilled and push on other scum reads?
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On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct?
Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia.
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On June 27 2014 06:35 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:I have already answered that question less than 10 minutes ago: On June 27 2014 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
So temp and glowing bear. Why did you both change your votes to jabber? I was reading meatpudding as scum but as I dived into his filters it started to sound like poor town playing. When diving through other filters, I've realised everybody was making some kind of sense and, therefore, we should be in a TvT situation where scum were just lurking watching us killing ourselves. By this time, jabb started avoiding answering questions, just pointing out that he wasn't a girl (filter dive him and judge yourself if he wasn't behaving in a strange way) I then decided to go against lurkers because of this. I started with Haru, but more to pressure, because I had a town read on him. Jabb strange behaviour made me go against him. Nydus was my second target because of the lurking, so there was no need to protect him. Probably a bad decision. My problem is... It's a newbie game and people are contradicting themselves like hell. We had a scumread on both MM1 and Tolkien at the time, and both flipped green. Now Nydus. Why leave your vote on someone who is prob going to get modkilled and push on other scum reads?
I've also answered that, but, again:
My second target was Nydus for being lurking and acting somewhat strangely. He was already going to be lynched, so I would rather stick my vote on jabb and try to get him killed in case he would get back right before the deadline and voting, or in case the hosts decide not to modkill him.
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Maybe I'm just not seeing it glowing so can u clarify or bold parts of the post that answer the question.
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On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all...
I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere
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On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere
But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died.
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On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died.
I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3.
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On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia.
Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though.
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On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3.
Why not pressure them now?
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On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now?
Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting.
More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that
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On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that
Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things.
I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom?
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On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia. Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though.
I really really really dont understand the need for editing a post if your town. Its a personal thing. Im not sure how I would be feeling about Nydus now if I choose to go after Teemu first. Hes participating a lot and giving me something to read him.
Going into tomorrow I think the Templar needs to be looked at as well as the people who voted on Teemu.
Templar hasnt given me an explanation on his vote on Jabber yet so I want to hear his reasoning, and well the people who voted on the person who I think is the most town right now for obvious reasons (I think he is town). More specifically I would like to know what they thought of Teemu when they voted and why the voted on him over anyone else.
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On June 27 2014 07:55 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:37 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 06:24 mtamburini wrote:
Tehpoofter are you evaluating my play based on this game, previous tl games together, or video mafia ? I would use all three with a priority of 1) This game 2) previous game on tl and then 3) video. You've been town in all the TL games I've played with you correct? Yes and I still am nothings changed. Well except me going super aggro when I hopped in here. You've only seen me do that in video mafia. Usually your reasons are good. I gotta admit that editing post thing seemed pretty dumb. Also your predecessors rage quit was silly. I need to fully catchup before I give a full read on you though. I really really really dont understand the need for editing a post if your town. Its a personal thing. Im not sure how I would be feeling about Nydus now if I choose to go after Teemu first. Hes participating a lot and giving me something to read him. Going into tomorrow I think the Templar needs to be looked at as well as the people who voted on Teemu. Templar hasnt given me an explanation on his vote on Jabber yet so I want to hear his reasoning, and well the people who voted on the person who I think is the most town right now for obvious reasons (I think he is town). More specifically I would like to know what they thought of Teemu when they voted and why the voted on him over anyone else.
I think that editing your posts in your first game is a misunderstanding of how the game works I know teemu said he was fixing a misquote/typo or something. I don't find it very alignment indicative. Your vote is weird I find this line weird did you really just vote because of it or was there more? (apologies if you said it I am not fully caught up)
Also I liked templar's interections when I got into thread and Teemu needs to keep up the activity he is my strongest town atm.
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On June 27 2014 07:49 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd? Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all... I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died. I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3. Why not pressure them now? Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting. More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that Fair enough night can be a good time to talk though about things. I am still down to talk. Do you think there was a mafia on the vote for Nydus? If so Whom?
Now that you've asked and I had to put thought on this particular question, I find my reads are weak.
If I stay consistent on my reads, meatpudding and Epishade went on a mafia vote on Teemu, and considering there are 4 mafia, two of Nydus voters are scum.
If I consider that there are 4 mafia in the game and that you may be town, mtamburini and thekingofcolombia are scum.
What do you think of this?
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