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Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:26 GMT
#821
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On June 23 2014 12:16 meatpudding wrote:
Teemu

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On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Way to jump to conclusions. Anyway I pointed this out before that I was introducing myself and responding to Templar.

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On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Teemu was really quick to start pushing on me at the start and yet 20 mins later making town lean calls on Templar.

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On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:53 The_Templar wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:48 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:41 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Hello people, i have a stupid username.

I've been playing mafia on OMGUS (TL's evil twin that's locked in the basement and fed a bucket of fish heads every night) since last october. Between then and now i was somehow voted season 2 best town so if my play is terrible it's pretty much a certainty that i'm scum.


Yea your scum play is horrible, to the extent of nearly being modkilled. I hope you aren't going to afk :/

I should be more active this game because i actually know how to play town. I was quiet in my last game because i have no idea what i'm doing as scum.

How was i nearly modkilled in that game?


How DO you play town? Let's talk!

Do you read into tone perhaps? Who do you like/dislike?

There's this guy named Teemursu who's taking things really seriously at the beginning of day 1.

In all seriousness, no reads for me yet as we've just introduced each other. Meatpudding's joke seemed a bit… random, (trying to get things friendly between everyone perhaps?) but I don't think it really means anything.


Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.





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On June 21 2014 23:09 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:04 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Weird that you say that before meatpudding even reacts?

But I'm with Templar, too early for me to get any reads.


Might've been too early, agreed. I'm probably too used to video mafia's speed. I did get a towny vibe from Templar, though, so it's not like I came out empty-handed.


To me, Teemu's willingness to make these reads based on one or two posts seems hasty and irrational. I (semi-seriously) pointed out that Teemu and Templar are likely a scum team trying to make false headway. (Hence my reading of Templar's future posts from that perspective.)

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On June 21 2014 23:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?

It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.


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On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.


Teemu trying to cover his tracks? Who was the first to suggest I should be lynched? - Teemu. I think that he plays too well to make mistakes like this. The only thing that could excuse him is because I'm a new player, his reads are wrong because I'm not playing the normal way.

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On June 21 2014 19:36 Teemursu wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here to stomp mafia.

Lynch my day 1 scum reads, and we're all good.

I'm in the middle of some video mafia. Hope some discussion is on the way once I come back.

My name (Teemu) comes from my mum & dad.



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On June 22 2014 12:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There really isn't much to say right now.

All I can say is that Teemursu is my only solid read for me atm (as town). While Nydus has played with him before and says this behavior is alignment-null, he's instigating the scumhunting that town sorely needs early D1. As a result, I would peg him as town (or at least, a non-viable D1 lynch).

That being said, I don't agree with any of the early lynch candidates thus far (as in, I don't have a strong enough read on any of them currently), and would rather lynch a lurker at this point in time. That includes scott, because his post was pretty much a non-response.


Of Cats or meatpudding, if I had to choose a D1 lynch atm, I'd vote meatpudding solely based on thread contribution.


-Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure.

My general impression of mafia players in my limited experience is that they work to distance themselves as much as possible. I personally do not read too much into it atm; without a flip it's speculation.

Personally, I don't know about Teemu, partly because I don't know about video mafia. I'm going to research this further. Scum-hunting isn't essential on day 1; I think it's more of a developing point in the game but that's just my two cents.

I don't like Scott's posts very much.


It's where I am the strongest in my town play.

Anyway, Cats is finally asking some better questions, so I am moving my focus on ## VOTE Meatpudding

I'm not sure about the Scott bandwagon, but pressuring him is not a bad idea.


Teemu would have us believe that his D1 scum reads are infallible. So far he has only made one strong call to mafia (guess who) which seems suspicious to me. He has basically stopped pressuring now that he has made up his mind, and that I have helped convince half of town that I may be scum anyway. Easy lynch for Teemu.

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On June 22 2014 21:09 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, I don't even know who Templar is..?

I get a lot of reads based on people's interaction with me (how they accuse me, etc), and so far yours has been very poor. You keep throwing scum at me without giving any explanation or backing up. Which of my reads have been off and how? Do you disagree with some or do you disagree with my reasons for my reads?

Honestly, I'm only trying to give you a chance to project town here by talking about reads, but you keep failing at it, which is making you my top scum read.

Speaking of throwing scum, people have been throwing scum at Scott, and I really wish he didn't become unmotivated as town because mafia pushed on him. >_>



Not the strongest case, all things considered.


At least your activity level went up, but you still haven't addressed some of the suspicion I've had on you.

Where am I covering tracks? I'm saying you're scummy for thinking Cats is trying to lynch you, since he wasn't. That came to me as overdefensive and I wanted to push on you for that. You didn't do much to defend yourself, ask others why they think you're scum and why they're voting you.

Since you didn't get lynched day 1, I expect a lot more from you day 2.

I don't know where you get the idea that I've made up my mind and that I want to stop pushing you. The pressure is still on you, and I haven't been the only one putting it forward. Discuss with others as well about you. We should all try to find out your alignment, instead of you trying to OMGUS me.

Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:27 GMT
#822
On June 23 2014 13:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
at MM1.

You apply too, though you aren't dead. Make some fking sense tonight/tomorrow and stop OMGUSing. There is a potential for a case on Teemu, but good lord man.


Please bring it on. Accuse me.

FITE ME.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 23 2014 11:30 GMT
#823
Dude that's alot lol. Is there more

When you finish posting, I'll give my general consensus on your reads. Also, please answer the last 2 questions. I'll include what I interpret from your answers.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:33 GMT
#824
On June 23 2014 12:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
But no seriously you're fine, just...you need to work on making sense. If you are town, such a glaring discrepancy in analysis like what you did will get you punished unless it was deliberate (and you'll get punished for that too, like I learned my last newbie mafia gaem <_< ). And you really need to work on making sense. Because I still can't follow your line of thinking in your defense afterwards.

If you're scum, die.


I want you to stop flip-flopping on MeatPudding. This isn't updating your own reads, as Nydus said. It sounds more like being unsettled to call your scum partner one way or the other.

You say he's fine, and you coach him on how to play better as town. But just in case he's scum, you tell him to die.

I'm saying you're not fine, and that you need to dig yourself out from the hole you've jumped in to by making this case on MM1 on weak basis. By making the case based on him having discrepancy in analysis and not making much sense, while these are the exact same things MeatPudding should be accused of, and you still think he is "fine".

You most certainly are scum, and you need to die.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:44 GMT
#825
On June 23 2014 20:30 HaruRH wrote:
Dude that's alot lol. Is there more

When you finish posting, I'll give my general consensus on your reads. Also, please answer the last 2 questions. I'll include what I interpret from your answers.


3) I didn't see a single post by Scott, so his contribution surely is useless. I hope he just didn't check out from the game but there's not much I can really go on about. I dropped him to null because of his inactivity.

4) His voting pattern is interesting.


Initially, his switch comes off really weird. Why is MM1 more scummy than MeatPudding? Why does he not see MM1 as town?

This post, though, really buys points for him. He says the reads makes sense, and admits to pushing for a reaction. I like this post A LOT.

never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.


He does finally settle with voting on MM1. I don't really get the feel of scum trying to pre-emptively justify their final vote on a misslynch, so I'm still going to have him as one of my higher town names.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:45 GMT
#826
That is mostly my ketchup and I want to have more discussions with people now. If anyone wants me to address anything specific from day 1, let me know and we'll talk. 8O)
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:46 GMT
#827
I realise now that if anyone ever wants to find my post in order to read my filter, just jump into page 41, LOL.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:48 GMT
#828
On June 23 2014 20:30 HaruRH wrote:
Dude that's alot lol. Is there more

When you finish posting, I'll give my general consensus on your reads. Also, please answer the last 2 questions. I'll include what I interpret from your answers.

I hope that wasn't too much, haha.

I'll be happy to hear your thoughts on my ketchup.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 23 2014 11:54 GMT
#829
On June 23 2014 20:48 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 23 2014 20:30 HaruRH wrote:
Dude that's alot lol. Is there more

When you finish posting, I'll give my general consensus on your reads. Also, please answer the last 2 questions. I'll include what I interpret from your answers.

I hope that wasn't too much, haha.

I'll be happy to hear your thoughts on my ketchup.


I would like to know your read on me too. Brb food
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 11:57 GMT
#830
TOWN:
HaruRH

NydusHerMain
LEANING TOWN:
Jabber
Templar

Hobbitus
GlowingBear

NULL:
Solar424
BlondeMocha
Scott31337

FENCE:
Epishade

LEANING SCUM / SCUM:

Tolkien
Cats
MeatPudding
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
June 23 2014 11:59 GMT
#831
On June 23 2014 19:04 Teemursu wrote:
This post Strikes me as off a little bit.

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"The posts are generally designed to appear useful, but are actually all that. He is the first one to raise the Scott=inexperienced issue (irrelevant to why I voted onto him, but still a defense of Scott when scum would probably let him burn if he was town) however, which Nydus and Teemu bandwagon onto later. Which is why only a slight scum feeling."



First off, I don't understand this post. Jabber is scummy because he was the first one to give the read on Scott, and Nydus and myself agreeing with him makes him scummy?


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"Didn't say anything about the noticeable push onto Scott I (and Templar) made"


In my opinion, it wasn't anything noticeable. I had a slight town lean on Scott, and I didn't feel like there was any reason for me to defend him. If you want to hear my opinion/reads on your posts where you push him, please link them and I will give my two cents.

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"or the spat between myself and Haru when we were on."

I had a town lean on Haru in the first place, and I was waiting for his case/accusation on you. Based on what I saw by quickly skimming through, I'm going to have to pressure you and Cats tomorrow. I need to re-evaluate MeatPudding once I see his post about me calling him out on his weak reads.

His accusation on you is interesting, since MM had kind of the same thing going on against both you and Cats. Seeing how I read this whole clusterfudge, Cats got very defensive about it, and you backed him up and pushed a misslynch, while you left Haru's thing hanging when you started focusing on MM.


.


IF you had the choice to narrow voting to two candidates, would you choose me and Cats, or me and Tolkien?
Be excellent to each other.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 12:06 GMT
#832
On June 23 2014 20:54 HaruRH wrote:
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On June 23 2014 20:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 23 2014 20:30 HaruRH wrote:
Dude that's alot lol. Is there more

When you finish posting, I'll give my general consensus on your reads. Also, please answer the last 2 questions. I'll include what I interpret from your answers.

I hope that wasn't too much, haha.

I'll be happy to hear your thoughts on my ketchup.


I would like to know your read on me too. Brb food


I had you as null around the time when you retracted your opinion of finding scum on day 1.

You've gone hard against MeatPudding since then and I like you a lot for that. Here's a great post. There are decent ones after this as well.

Maybe one thing I would have liked to hear you post about during the day was the whole thing about the interaction between Cats and Tolkien. At least, we're going to have the whole next day for that.

Your tone hasn't come off forced and I'm liking this interaction with you right now.

I have you as pretty strong town.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 12:10 GMT
#833
On June 23 2014 20:59 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 19:04 Teemursu wrote:
This post Strikes me as off a little bit.

+ Show Spoiler +
"The posts are generally designed to appear useful, but are actually all that. He is the first one to raise the Scott=inexperienced issue (irrelevant to why I voted onto him, but still a defense of Scott when scum would probably let him burn if he was town) however, which Nydus and Teemu bandwagon onto later. Which is why only a slight scum feeling."



First off, I don't understand this post. Jabber is scummy because he was the first one to give the read on Scott, and Nydus and myself agreeing with him makes him scummy?


"Didn't say anything about the noticeable push onto Scott I (and Templar) made"


In my opinion, it wasn't anything noticeable. I had a slight town lean on Scott, and I didn't feel like there was any reason for me to defend him. If you want to hear my opinion/reads on your posts where you push him, please link them and I will give my two cents.

"or the spat between myself and Haru when we were on."

I had a town lean on Haru in the first place, and I was waiting for his case/accusation on you. Based on what I saw by quickly skimming through, I'm going to have to pressure you and Cats tomorrow. I need to re-evaluate MeatPudding once I see his post about me calling him out on his weak reads.

His accusation on you is interesting, since MM had kind of the same thing going on against both you and Cats. Seeing how I read this whole clusterfudge, Cats got very defensive about it, and you backed him up and pushed a misslynch, while you left Haru's thing hanging when you started focusing on MM.


.


IF you had the choice to narrow voting to two candidates, would you choose me and Cats, or me and Tolkien?


Tolkien and you.

We still have the whole next day, though, and I can imagine the dynamic to change.

To put it simply, I'm reading you as scum because of your weak play and inconsistency and I'm reading Cats and Tolkien scum for their interactions and reasons for pushing MM1 yesterday.

Thus, if you can provide me with content that makes me want to put you higher in my town list, I can see myself prefering Cats and Tolkien as the main two wagons tomorrow.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 12:16 GMT
#834
On June 23 2014 09:47 Hobbitus wrote:
Wow, I really didn't realize that cats and tolkien acted so similiarly o_0 Hmm


Forgot to mention that in hindsight, I think this post is kind of funny.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 12:17 GMT
#835
Meatpudding, what information did you expect to get out from that question and.. what info DID you get?
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 12:19 GMT
#836
I can imagine most of the people from States are asleep at this point and will be waking up around the time I'm heading home. I'll be off from work in about two hours at latest.

I'm kind of happy that there isn't much work to do where I work (office of a police station), so I can give some focus to this game.

Hope for some good discussion then.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
June 23 2014 12:28 GMT
#837
On June 23 2014 21:17 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, what information did you expect to get out from that question and.. what info DID you get?


I'm interested in your opinions on Cats and Tolkien because I think further investigation on those two is warranted. I'm leaning to think one of them is mafia. I wanted your opinion now so I can get a read on how you place your vote. But as you said, things will change when day starts so I'm not sure how well you can be held to such an early call.
Be excellent to each other.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 12:35 GMT
#838
On June 23 2014 21:28 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 23 2014 21:17 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, what information did you expect to get out from that question and.. what info DID you get?


I'm interested in your opinions on Cats and Tolkien because I think further investigation on those two is warranted. I'm leaning to think one of them is mafia. I wanted your opinion now so I can get a read on how you place your vote. But as you said, things will change when day starts so I'm not sure how well you can be held to such an early call.


Which one do you then think it is? You don't think it could be both of them?

As I said previously my thought on how yesterday happened KotC got very defensive MM1's vote on him. He didn't seem like he was playing what he called was his town play. Tolkien then kind of jumped to back KotC up in a weird way.

If there was one, I can see it being Tolkien pushing a misslynch and at the same time pocketing KotC, but I'm not really sure yet.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 23 2014 12:37 GMT
#839
On June 23 2014 21:35 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 23 2014 21:28 meatpudding wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:17 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, what information did you expect to get out from that question and.. what info DID you get?


I'm interested in your opinions on Cats and Tolkien because I think further investigation on those two is warranted. I'm leaning to think one of them is mafia. I wanted your opinion now so I can get a read on how you place your vote. But as you said, things will change when day starts so I'm not sure how well you can be held to such an early call.


Which one do you then think it is? You don't think it could be both of them?

As I said previously my thought on how yesterday happened KotC got very defensive MM1's vote on him. He didn't seem like he was playing what he called was his town play. Tolkien then kind of jumped to back KotC up in a weird way.

If there was one, I can see it being Tolkien pushing a misslynch and at the same time pocketing KotC, but I'm not really sure yet.


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On June 23 2014 12:31 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:26 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:16 meatpudding wrote:
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Teemu

On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Way to jump to conclusions. Anyway I pointed this out before that I was introducing myself and responding to Templar.

On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Teemu was really quick to start pushing on me at the start and yet 20 mins later making town lean calls on Templar.

On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:53 The_Templar wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:48 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:41 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Hello people, i have a stupid username.

I've been playing mafia on OMGUS (TL's evil twin that's locked in the basement and fed a bucket of fish heads every night) since last october. Between then and now i was somehow voted season 2 best town so if my play is terrible it's pretty much a certainty that i'm scum.


Yea your scum play is horrible, to the extent of nearly being modkilled. I hope you aren't going to afk :/

I should be more active this game because i actually know how to play town. I was quiet in my last game because i have no idea what i'm doing as scum.

How was i nearly modkilled in that game?


How DO you play town? Let's talk!

Do you read into tone perhaps? Who do you like/dislike?

There's this guy named Teemursu who's taking things really seriously at the beginning of day 1.

In all seriousness, no reads for me yet as we've just introduced each other. Meatpudding's joke seemed a bit… random, (trying to get things friendly between everyone perhaps?) but I don't think it really means anything.


Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.





On June 21 2014 23:09 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:04 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Weird that you say that before meatpudding even reacts?

But I'm with Templar, too early for me to get any reads.


Might've been too early, agreed. I'm probably too used to video mafia's speed. I did get a towny vibe from Templar, though, so it's not like I came out empty-handed.


To me, Teemu's willingness to make these reads based on one or two posts seems hasty and irrational. I (semi-seriously) pointed out that Teemu and Templar are likely a scum team trying to make false headway. (Hence my reading of Templar's future posts from that perspective.)

On June 21 2014 23:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?

It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.


On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.


Teemu trying to cover his tracks? Who was the first to suggest I should be lynched? - Teemu. I think that he plays too well to make mistakes like this. The only thing that could excuse him is because I'm a new player, his reads are wrong because I'm not playing the normal way.

On June 21 2014 19:36 Teemursu wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here to stomp mafia.

Lynch my day 1 scum reads, and we're all good.

I'm in the middle of some video mafia. Hope some discussion is on the way once I come back.

My name (Teemu) comes from my mum & dad.



On June 22 2014 12:46 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 22 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There really isn't much to say right now.

All I can say is that Teemursu is my only solid read for me atm (as town). While Nydus has played with him before and says this behavior is alignment-null, he's instigating the scumhunting that town sorely needs early D1. As a result, I would peg him as town (or at least, a non-viable D1 lynch).

That being said, I don't agree with any of the early lynch candidates thus far (as in, I don't have a strong enough read on any of them currently), and would rather lynch a lurker at this point in time. That includes scott, because his post was pretty much a non-response.


Of Cats or meatpudding, if I had to choose a D1 lynch atm, I'd vote meatpudding solely based on thread contribution.


-Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure.

My general impression of mafia players in my limited experience is that they work to distance themselves as much as possible. I personally do not read too much into it atm; without a flip it's speculation.

Personally, I don't know about Teemu, partly because I don't know about video mafia. I'm going to research this further. Scum-hunting isn't essential on day 1; I think it's more of a developing point in the game but that's just my two cents.

I don't like Scott's posts very much.


It's where I am the strongest in my town play.

Anyway, Cats is finally asking some better questions, so I am moving my focus on ## VOTE Meatpudding

I'm not sure about the Scott bandwagon, but pressuring him is not a bad idea.


Teemu would have us believe that his D1 scum reads are infallible. So far he has only made one strong call to mafia (guess who) which seems suspicious to me. He has basically stopped pressuring now that he has made up his mind, and that I have helped convince half of town that I may be scum anyway. Easy lynch for Teemu.

On June 22 2014 21:09 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, I don't even know who Templar is..?

I get a lot of reads based on people's interaction with me (how they accuse me, etc), and so far yours has been very poor. You keep throwing scum at me without giving any explanation or backing up. Which of my reads have been off and how? Do you disagree with some or do you disagree with my reasons for my reads?

Honestly, I'm only trying to give you a chance to project town here by talking about reads, but you keep failing at it, which is making you my top scum read.

Speaking of throwing scum, people have been throwing scum at Scott, and I really wish he didn't become unmotivated as town because mafia pushed on him. >_>



Not the strongest case, all things considered.

Cool, but can you please offer your insight on you vs MM? Teemu isn't quite relevant right now I think.


Yes, I know. I also want to write up my thoughts on you and Cats. I'm keeping up with the thread but I don't have a read on MM. Other than what Tolkien said about lurkers being scum, I don't know. I have the net 30mins free but only so much I can type. I'm basically voting to save myself and help town.

Since you didn't do anything about you and MM, can I see these thoughts or are you going to do nothing this night?
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