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How come people don't think i am mafia?
I haven't been here and that's my red meta.
Who is batsnacks? I quite like his way of looking at the game.
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oh and when you have 1/3 of the votes in the game and 1 of them is not on mafia for free (the guy in the cell) you don't need to bus at all and if even a small number of townies are wrong you can switch pretty much any lynch around.
TODAYS LYNCH IS SUPER IMPORTANT IF WE MISLYNCH TODAY THEN ON DAY 3 MAFIA WIN WITH 2 TOWN ON A WRONG WAGON ON DAY 4 WITH 1 OR 2 and DAY 5 WITH !(though that one is much more obvious)
It requires perfect play from almost every townie if we fuck up today so get here
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On June 02 2014 01:17 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote:
Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats + Show Spoiler +
Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him
There's some points that actually make sense.
So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons.
If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie.
If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor.
So two scenerios i see there.
I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well.
Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too?
And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read?
What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?
This is the primary reason I wanted my cell to go first on day 1: Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 05:11 batsnacks wrote:
We've got less that 2 hours.
Just consider this: What is the advantage of lynching the mayor's group first?
Lets assume that most people vote for the mayor because they believe he/she is town. If the mayor is in the cell to be lynched on day 1, that means that the first group up for lynch already has one person that the majority read as town. This gives town a starting advantage. If town can get the first victory, that is a lot of pressure on mafia. I would argue town winning day 1 is more important than town winning any other day, except for LYLO. Building momentum is important. Going into day 1 with a town read (the mayor) is an advantage. Consider this. I still believe it is advantageous for town if the mayor's group is first.
It just doesn't work when the mayor is mafia
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at the moment i am leaning HF as the scummer
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In order for us to vote for robo i think we need to assume that he was mafia messing with us.
For me at least, his observation that mafia were okay with the lynch and his attempt to swap the lynch makes plenty of sense as town.
If he is mafia then everything he did around the lynch yesterday is super contrived unnecessary and silly.
So i am pretty confident that IamRobotik is town.
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Batsnacks's talked at the start of the game about how we should act with regards to the mayor role. He put particular emphasis on momentum and using the collective townread on the mayor to town's advantage. This reminded me quite a bit of what it seems ritoky did and the notion that he was thinking along the same lines could point to them both being mafia.
I quite like the stuff about ninja. I'm a bit unsure tbh.
Yesterday i felt that mtamburuni acted on day1 like he had more information since he wasn't sharing much with the thread. Not so sure now
If people have time could they comment on slOosh?
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@odin It's a bit of a gut feeling, i am pretty confident about IAmRobik being town and i have a felling of liking batsnacks.
nearly finished going over hf though
My other issue this game is that Palmar is playing just like he does when he is mafia but i keep finding myself agreeing with him and it's making me uncertain about why i am thinking things.
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oh screw it it's totally batsnacks
if HF is mafia he deserves the win and we shouldn't be sheeping scum palmar
and obi you misrepresent me don't do that
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whoever wins we do need to consolidate but not yet
##vote batsnacks
i cant identify why i should think batsnacks is town and there are a number of things in HF's filter that give me townvibes
eg:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21441275
@hf wagon why would you sheep a guy that hasn't read his targets posts?
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On June 02 2014 05:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 05:48 layabout wrote:
@odin It's a bit of a gut feeling, i am pretty confident about IAmRobik being town and i have a felling of liking batsnacks.
nearly finished going over hf though
My other issue this game is that Palmar is playing just like he does when he is mafia but i keep finding myself agreeing with him and it's making me uncertain about why i am thinking things. Odin isnt even in this game anymor.e
Is that a necessary thing to post?
pretty sure since obi has been asking me questions you would be able to look past and ignore that
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before yall get removed can you talk about slOosh?
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On June 02 2014 06:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 06:02 batsnacks wrote:On June 02 2014 05:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 02 2014 05:56 batsnacks wrote:On June 02 2014 05:54 layabout wrote:On June 02 2014 05:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 02 2014 05:48 layabout wrote:
@odin It's a bit of a gut feeling, i am pretty confident about IAmRobik being town and i have a felling of liking batsnacks.
nearly finished going over hf though
My other issue this game is that Palmar is playing just like he does when he is mafia but i keep finding myself agreeing with him and it's making me uncertain about why i am thinking things. Odin isnt even in this game anymor.e Is that a necessary thing to post?pretty sure since obi has been asking me questions you would be able to look past and ignore that Yeah I find myself wondering that about a lot of bunnies' posts. Okay, i get that post, but what other posts are you talking about? All of your filter dives at the end of day 1, all of your arguments with mtamburini about rng, all the talk about how busy you are and stuff going on outside the game. So, i cant make small talk in game? Or say im catching up. Especially since people were all like, " oh bunnies activity is going down". I do have a real life you know.
So you were posting so people would think you were doing more than you actually were?
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there's things like this:
On June 01 2014 11:31 Holyflare wrote:
The mistake i made with most likely ritoky (i hope) was that i didn't realise he was not a new online mafia player :/
which would be going far (but not impossible)
or when HF responds to one of my posts about odin and at that very moment his approach towards me changes
that make it hard for me still see HF as mafia
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On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote?
On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum? Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum?
Have a quick read of batsnacks filter (the middle bit) and tell me he isn't just trying to move and direct the thread without adding much of his own
I dare you
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IF THIS LYNCH FAILS MAFIA 95 TIMES OUT OF 100 WILL WIN AND ALL BATSNACKS IS DOING IS TUNNELING AND ARGUING WITH NINJABUNNIES
BATSNACK'S PRIORITIES ARE NOT TOWN ONES
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On June 02 2014 06:19 slOosh wrote:
Wait why are people voting holyflare? Why would scum get pissed off at inactivity?
Palmar is pushing him for having a long filter and trying to make HF angry
On June 02 2014 03:42 Palmar wrote:
Hope you're mafia hf otherwise your track record this game will be
Lynch townie
Get lynched as town
Tell town to lynch another townie
You know, the Palmar that the flipped town as well as everyone that has played with Palmar said we should lynch
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wave isn't coming back so the only votes uncast are IAmRobotik and Tehpoofter who we don't know will come back.
the holyflare wagon makes a pretty good shout at the scumteam:
QUOTE]On June 02 2014 05:57 LoneMeow wrote:
Counting of votes:
IAmRobik (2): Holyflare, slOosh, batsnacks, 27ninjabunnies
Holyflare (4): mderg, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, batsnacks, ObiWanShinobi
batsnacks (3): mtamburini, Holyflare, layabout
Not voting (3): IAmRobik, Tehpoofter, WaveofShadow
Currently, Holyflare is set to be lynched.
You have until Sunday, Jun 01 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: mderg voted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: Holyflare voted iamrobik (IAmRobik) ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted IAmRobik ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted holyflare (Holyflare) ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: batsnacks voted IAmRobik ( post) ERROR: Holyflare voted invalid player draw/endgame ( post) ERROR: ObiWanShinobi voted invalid player endgame/draw ( post) VOTE: mtamburini voted bat (batsnacks) ( post) VOTE: batsnacks unvoted IAmRobik ( post) WARNING: Palmar changed vote without unvote ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: batsnacks voted Holyflare ( post) VOTE: 27ninjabunnies voted Robik (IAmRobik) ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted holyflare (Holyflare) ( post) VOTE: Holyflare unvoted IAmRobik ( post) VOTE: Holyflare voted batsnacks ( post) VOTE: layabout voted batsnacks ( post)
mderg's vote arguably has a lot of self interest behind it
palmar.....
batsnack's is the scum in his cell
and every game has at least 1 mafia playing the obi is playing at the moment
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why hasn't ninjabunnies moved to save HF her town BFF?
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On June 02 2014 06:38 Palmar wrote:
batsnacks who's mafia in your cell and who's mafia in future cells.
BTW batsnacks is 100% not mafia. If it's not HF it's robik. batsnacks realized I'm town and it makes no sense to do that if he's mafia.
Trust me, lynch HF, if it's not him, it's Robik.
Well if you are town(you aren't) it's your fault for playing in such a way that this could be the case. Your reason for him being town is that he thinks you are town so only you could use that if you are town(you aren't) but no one else could and no one else should use that reason.
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