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On May 31 2014 03:26 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:15 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 03:06 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:57 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:40 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote:
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That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town? I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip. Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly. I see three possible universes: 1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that. I suppose you're going with universe 1? Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option. Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point. Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking. Okay consider this then. If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan. If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy. Who is mafia with meapak? If Cell C was today and the deadline was now I'd be voting you. That's the wrong answer on so many levels. 1) I'm town 2) you just gave 1 name 3) The reason I asked the question was to see if you would list the people who already have their vote on him. The premise of what you said had to do with the fact that if meapak is mafia, he's not worried cause his mafia teammates are already voting for him. #getwreckt
The only groups I've given enough thought to answer that are A and C because those are the only groups I will be alive to vote for. You got the right answer.
Thinking about it now though, if I was alive to vote for Cell B I would vote Palmar no matter who else was in the group.
If you want reads you'll have to ask me more specific questions than that, or just read my filter, I've been giving them out as they come.
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On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx
Two people in Cell D are voting MZ. Does that scare the shit out of you too?
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On May 31 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too? I am town. I KNOW one of you two is mafia. I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak. But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak
Everyone is town. You keep saying you're town like it means something. It doesn't mean anything.
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On May 31 2014 04:21 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:19 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:04 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx Two people in Cell D are voting meapak. Does that scare the shit out of you too? I am town. I KNOW one of you two is mafia. I would definitely be weirded the fuck out if all 3 of Cell D were voting meapak. But there's enough to be weirded out by knowing that at least one mafia is pushing for a lynch of meapak Everyone is town. You keep saying you're town like it means something. It doesn't mean anything. That's not true. There are only 10 of us. We need to stick together.
Nice checkmate. I guess I walk away with my head down now.
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Considering votes right now
If ritoky is mafia, 0 people in their cell are right.
If MZ is mafia, 1 person in their cell is right.
If Odin is mafia, 2 people in their cell are right.
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On May 31 2014 04:37 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:32 batsnacks wrote:
Considering votes right now
If ritoky is mafia, 0 people in their cell are right.
If MZ is mafia, 1 person in their cell is right.
If Odin is mafia, 2 people in their cell are right. Please enlighten me what you wish to garner from this?
I think it says a lot. If ritoky is mafia, neither townie in his cell suspected him. If Odin is mafia, both town players in his cell suspected him. If MZ is mafia, 1 town member in his cell suspected him.
Speculating: What do you think would happen the most often if Cell Mafia were played 1,000,000 times? Zero townies being right about their cell, one townie being right about their cell, or both townies being right about their cell?
Again, pure speculation, I think most of time one townie would be right.
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On May 31 2014 04:49 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:44 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 04:37 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:32 batsnacks wrote:
Considering votes right now
If ritoky is mafia, 0 people in their cell are right.
If MZ is mafia, 1 person in their cell is right.
If Odin is mafia, 2 people in their cell are right. Please enlighten me what you wish to garner from this? I think it says a lot. If ritoky is mafia, neither townie in his cell suspected him. If Odin is mafia, both town players in his cell suspected him. If MZ is mafia, 1 town member in his cell suspected him. Speculating: What do you think would happen the most often if Cell Mafia were played 1,000,000 times? Zero townies being right about their cell, one townie being right about their cell, or both townies being right about their cell? Again, pure speculation, I think most of time one townie would be right. So in other words this entire post doesn't mean anything at all. Thanks. The only switch I would everm dream of considering right now would be onto ritoky. I want the power players in this game to really consider what that means. If I didn't know that MZ fights his lynch as scum I would think ritoky actually might have a. Higher chance to flip eyed because he simply fucked off for ages and let shit go with the votes on their wrong person. I think if it come down to ritoky and we were wrong right now, we're all fucking stupid and I absolutely don't want o be responsible for that so we're going to sit down and figure this shit out. I want to be right.
I think it would be better for you to say "this entire post doesn't mean anything at all to me" because you can only speak for yourself.
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On May 31 2014 04:57 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 04:56 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 04:49 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 31 2014 04:44 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 04:37 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:32 batsnacks wrote:
Considering votes right now
If ritoky is mafia, 0 people in their cell are right.
If MZ is mafia, 1 person in their cell is right.
If Odin is mafia, 2 people in their cell are right. Please enlighten me what you wish to garner from this? I think it says a lot. If ritoky is mafia, neither townie in his cell suspected him. If Odin is mafia, both town players in his cell suspected him. If MZ is mafia, 1 town member in his cell suspected him. Speculating: What do you think would happen the most often if Cell Mafia were played 1,000,000 times? Zero townies being right about their cell, one townie being right about their cell, or both townies being right about their cell? Again, pure speculation, I think most of time one townie would be right. So in other words this entire post doesn't mean anything at all. Thanks. The only switch I would everm dream of considering right now would be onto ritoky. I want the power players in this game to really consider what that means. If I didn't know that MZ fights his lynch as scum I would think ritoky actually might have a. Higher chance to flip eyed because he simply fucked off for ages and let shit go with the votes on their wrong person. I think if it come down to ritoky and we were wrong right now, we're all fucking stupid and I absolutely don't want o be responsible for that so we're going to sit down and figure this shit out. I want to be right. I think it would be better for you to say "this entire post doesn't mean anything at all to me" because you can only speak for yourself. Thanks, TL New Behaviour Rules Post for taking human form and playing this game with us! (Or being some sort of pre-programmed mafia-playig script) layabout let's chat. What does it mean if we're currently wrong about MZ?
That post you just said "doesn't mean anything at all" was about what it means if we're currently wrong, or currently right, about MZ.
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On May 31 2014 05:30 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 31 2014 05:26 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 05:18 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 31 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 31 2014 05:11 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 05:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Poofter Where in the actual fuck are you?
I swear I'm this fuckinga close to changing my mind and actually believing palmar is town. (Not really but still)
As for MZ, he is a fighter. I've seen him play like this before going down, and he is playing well. It's unfortunate that ritoky right now is playing like shit and making our decision difficult.
What's with all of this flip flop bullshit? Robik how in the actual fuck can you be voting for Odin? I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch. As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia. this leads odin to being the scum in cell A. is there any proof behind this or do you just have him by poe? Absolutely not. I think that all of the people in cell A have good things going for them and MZ is probably the scummiest of the lot.
The fact that Odin seems to have felt safe and hasn't been back to the thread makes me lean scummier though. Like, the dude is in the first lynch group. He has to put in a solid 72 hours of work including the mayor shit (unless that was also 48hrs -- which would be lolworthy long), and he's not willing to be around for the last half of the last day that he can possibly contribute. DAFUQ is that bullshit. Oh so you mean like ritoky who afked for the better part of the post-mayoral election? And I absolutely did not clear odin for his drunk shit. Whatever, I concede that it may be Rikoty, but like, I don't like MZ for scum anymore. I'm putting my ass on the line here. Like if we don't lynch MZ and it's a miss, I feel like I'm gonna be facing the wrath of 7 hells tomorrow. This ALSO makes no sense because current thread consensus is STILL towards MZ being scum so if you're wrong, then a whole shit ton of us are wrong---why would we single you out or blame you specifically? Your thinking in this game is completely wonky and I don't like it one bit. Cause I'm one of the biggest proponents for not lynching MZ right now. If we don't lynch him and lynch rikoty or odin instead and the person we lynch comes back town, there will be backlash at me for pushing away from MZ who could have been maf. I don't think this logic is that difficult to follow. Not sure if your brain is fried or you're trying to misconstrue what I'm saying. wtf? Oh nvm you said if we 'don't lynch MZ and it's a miss. Fine but the rest of what I have said still stands. Your first concern shouldn't be 'the rest of the thread oh noes.' My main concern is lynching the right person. Based off of the fact that I'm town and two people in my cell are voting MZ, that makes me believe that he's not the right lynch. I don't know which one of odin/ritoky it is, but I lean Odin for the aforementioned reasons. It could be Ritoky though, and if I can vote to save MZ right now, I would vote Ritoky over Odin
I thought you thought Odin was the scummier of the two? You said in Ritoky's newbie game you coached him, he was timid, therefor you don't believe he would be so outspoken as to run for mayor as mafia. You commented about how Odin disappearing from the thread as soon as he was clear with most people was scummy. So... why would you vote Ritoky over Odin now?
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Am I reading that sentence wrong or something cause in the same post you say you lean Odin for the aforementioned reasons.
Which is it this:
I lean Odin for the aforementioned reasons
Or this:
if I can vote to save MZ right now, I would vote Ritoky over Odin
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On May 31 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Did I not words?
I would vote Odin over Ritoky, but if it were between MZ and Ritoky, I would vote Ritoky to save MZ.
Okay what about if it could be any of the three and your vote was the only one that mattered?
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Robik if I had been voting ritoky yesterday, you would have voted MZ, right?
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Holyflare who's mafia in Cell D and E?
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You don't have to draw up a big case or whatever I've read the thread I already know what people have been doing. Just two names is fine.
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I can't follow what you guys are talking about.
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I agree with mtamburini about Holyflare's read on bunnies. I think bunnies is mafia in Cell E.
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Holyflare if it didn't need to be done, what was the motivation for doing it? I don't think town gains anything from her going tryhard on filtering people at the end of the day when 1 person already has the overwhelming majority of votes and no one is showing any signs of switching.
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I think she went tryhard at the end of the day just to look pro town while finishing MZ. The things she chooses to take issue with are really weak a lot of the time, like recent example:
On May 31 2014 07:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 07:02 mtamburini wrote:
How about those reads you have bunnies? How well did they serve you this round? Probably shouldve RNG'd it at least I know I had a 50% chance of being right now that MZ flipped town.
## STATS I think my reads are pretty good. If you look at my analysis in each of the three, you can understand where my head is at. I was obviously wrong, but that still doesnt mean we should have rngd the lynch. What if you rngd and landed on MZ? Your rng would have been wrong. Just because you initially rngd the possible mafia, that doesnt make you right. That makes you 50% likely to be right, now that MZ flipped town.
Her filter dives at the end of day 1 were just repeats of what everyone else was saying at the beginning of the day.
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