EPTI'm just meh on Palmar right now, especially after he told me about the Steam group for Dota 2. He gets a pass from me.
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Ace
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I'm just meh on Palmar right now, especially after he told me about the Steam group for Dota 2. He gets a pass from me. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On May 09 2014 03:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually if marv actually thinks I'm scum then ##Vote: marvelosity EZ game EZ life. You know you are going to be lynched if that's everything you got, right? On May 09 2014 03:52 Ace wrote: yall dont wanna lynch Caller? pffft btw what is "towny" stuff? Surprise me! | ||
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Ace
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
remember, a vote for WoS is a vote for mafia. | ||
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Caller
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see i can do it too | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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marvellosity
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VisceraEyes
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
I get it I get it. Too bad, it's who I am. I tried to fix this, I failed. Ace blatant fabricating IMO but a man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest... Dat Paul Simon Art Garfunkel | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 09 2014 08:01 Alakaslam wrote: HIJOLE I get it I get it. Too bad, it's who I am. I tried to fix this, I failed. Ace blatant fabricating IMO but a man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest... Dat Paul Simon Art Garfunkel Lynch marv with me Alak. I'm sorry I thought you were scum. I'm sorry. But please lynch marv with me. This is important. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Immediately starts asking Fool/BH if they're okay with each other Okay, having read this thang I only have one question for both of you: Are you fine with the other one? As in, you've spent time together in here, do you feel like the other is trustworthy? I assume the answer is yes based on what's been said in thread and in here but I want to make sure before we go further. Starts poking them about reads, doesn't get why Foolishness wants to lynch RoL on D2 (looking more at Caller/Palmar, and doing so by 'splainin' himself AND pestering Fool/BH about their reads on the two, why they have em, etc.) has 1800000000 options to call people scummy. Doesn't do says. Says gumshoe posting is different from gumshoe's normal play, but not townie/scummy for him. Pokes BH because BH wants to lynch Gumshoe, but also is okay lynching Oats (who is pushing Gumshoe). Calls BH scum in a joking way for that, in a way that reads townie. Blah blah. Also I'm super duper convinced by him kinda sorta pushing me but not really. His posts in thread, and a couple in QT, read like he is confused about me, a little worried. He's...not sure if I'm town or not, but there's no malice behind it, there's no purpose like "I'm gonna lynch your ass pew pew pew." It's "wtf is up I thought this and that and why aren't you doing x, because I think you should be doing x as town, are you not town? Uh oh." ----> AND THEN HE ASKS ME STUFF AND WHATNOT, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING I'M SCUM AND DRAWING BAD ASCII PICTURES AND TALKING ABOUT ABBA LIKE SOME OTHER JERK HAS BEEN DOING. Anywho, VE is not mafia. Please try again. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 09 2014 01:20 Palmar wrote: YO TOWN WAVEOFSHADOW IS MAFIA PALMAR OUT Can you explain to me why a Mafia WoS sees his partners dying off and decides "I'm going to start trying harder and seem more excited about the game" he had basically the same feel in posting tone that you did where you suddenly got happier because the game was going in towns favor. He goes from sorta defeated to Alright maybe we got this! Why does ScumWoS do this? How is VE/VA/Caller more town than WoS? @Austin I don't have QT access but that instantly suspicious thing that you brought up reminds me of Catastrophe where I PMd VE during the PM phase and was hit with nothing but a wall about how he couldn't trust me. (He was traitor in that game) So when you said that it makes me actually feel like he is more Scummy. @slam/Austin/Jat/Wos/Palmer how is marv's scum game? Cause I had a pretty decent scum read on prphlz but Marv seems really town its hard to think they're the same "person" in the game cause htye seem like different alignments to me. Is marv good enough at scum to look townie like this? @Jat I think Ace/Caller are both fine shots neither has a connection to others so their flips are not as productive as someone who has said more than 2 sentences. I'm not wholly opposed to holding a shot. I will say that if I still had my shot shooting both caller and Ace would be a good day I feel like we hit a scum a large majority of the time. Caller asking everyone to role claim was really really weird to me it seems to benefit scum more than anyone else. @Caller can you explain the benefits of role claiming today? Why is it pro town and what information do you hope to gather? 1st | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 09 2014 09:15 austinmcc wrote: We're not lynching VE. His first couple bits in the QT: Immediately starts asking Fool/BH if they're okay with each other Starts poking them about reads, doesn't get why Foolishness wants to lynch RoL on D2 (looking more at Caller/Palmar, and doing so by 'splainin' himself AND pestering Fool/BH about their reads on the two, why they have em, etc.) has 1800000000 options to call people scummy. Doesn't do says. Says gumshoe posting is different from gumshoe's normal play, but not townie/scummy for him. Pokes BH because BH wants to lynch Gumshoe, but also is okay lynching Oats (who is pushing Gumshoe). Calls BH scum in a joking way for that, in a way that reads townie. Blah blah. Also I'm super duper convinced by him kinda sorta pushing me but not really. His posts in thread, and a couple in QT, read like he is confused about me, a little worried. He's...not sure if I'm town or not, but there's no malice behind it, there's no purpose like "I'm gonna lynch your ass pew pew pew." It's "wtf is up I thought this and that and why aren't you doing x, because I think you should be doing x as town, are you not town? Uh oh." ----> AND THEN HE ASKS ME STUFF AND WHATNOT, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING I'M SCUM AND DRAWING BAD ASCII PICTURES AND TALKING ABOUT ABBA LIKE SOME OTHER JERK HAS BEEN DOING. Anywho, VE is not mafia. Please try again. none of this says why VE is town. Please try again | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 09 2014 06:22 Caller wrote: Ace is just making some shit up because he's defending his scumbuddy see i can do it too Who is his scum buddy in your mind? Palmer? What do you think of Marv coming into the thread? Does it change how you felt on prphlz? (honestly don't even know how you feel/felt on him even if you said) + Show Spoiler + On May 09 2014 06:18 Palmar wrote: btw I'm going to sleep so I can wake up in a few hours and watch the browns fuck up the nfl draft. The Browns are the worst drafting team ever. I have two buddies who are huge fans so can't wait to see what kinda dumb stuff they do this year! 2nd | ||
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marvellosity
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 09 2014 09:40 marvellosity wrote: also poofter, dunno what drugs you're smoking but prplhz was mega town. He had opinions and pushed stuff and said stuff. That alone makes prp 99% town. You should check out his scumgames. The good kind of course. The part that stuck out to me was his push on Foolishness the day that Ceph came out. I just can't understand how that is townie. Austin seemed to think so too so maybe I'm just missing it but he seemed to not care at all like he already knew the info. Can you explain why that push was townie? He also was tunneling Foolish the day Oats got lynched. Thats my hold up with him/you because your posts have all seemed townie but he was off to me. I haven't seen his or your scum games though so I can speak to neither and people talk about you being really good so if he was playing bad scum you could be playing good scum. Also What do you make of Ace's interaction with Palmer? and Caller's "everyone mass claim"? I wish we could shoot both of them tbh. I feel like Ace is trying to buddy Palmer after pushing him for days and Caller says not a lot for the whole game then says "hey can a bunch of roles out that would be nice" Can some of the quite people please seem town you can't all be scum? Thanks 3rd. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 09 2014 09:50 Tehpoofter wrote: The good kind of course. The part that stuck out to me was his push on Foolishness the day that Ceph came out. I just can't understand how that is townie. Austin seemed to think so too so maybe I'm just missing it but he seemed to not care at all like he already knew the info. Can you explain why that push was townie? He also was tunneling Foolish the day Oats got lynched. Thats my hold up with him/you because your posts have all seemed townie but he was off to me. I haven't seen his or your scum games though so I can speak to neither and people talk about you being really good so if he was playing bad scum you could be playing good scum. Also What do you make of Ace's interaction with Palmer? and Caller's "everyone mass claim"? I wish we could shoot both of them tbh. I feel like Ace is trying to buddy Palmer after pushing him for days and Caller says not a lot for the whole game then says "hey can a bunch of roles out that would be nice" Can some of the quite people please seem town you can't all be scum? Thanks 3rd. Ok I'm only going to reply to this once, because it's a waste of my posts that I'm totally not wasting on other things like popcorns. The push on Foolish when Ceph had his claims is practically the towniest thing in his entire filter (other than said generic reasons which i mentioned) and it makes me sad that you don't understand why. Again with the background, prplhz = lurky, useless, does nothing scumplayer (to be fair, he does it as town also, but always as mafia)... anyway prplhz wanting to lynch Fool in general is just a read, lots of people wanted to lynch Foolish. Wanting to lynch Foolish on the day of the cop checks, well that's just unbelievably townie. There is literally zero chance a player like prplhz would stick his neck out and quite forcefully and repeatedly say we should be lynching Foolishness when there's a cop check. He would (and almost any mafia would) want to lynch into the cop claims. Because town is 100% going to lynch into the cop claims, so you're just drawing attention to yourself. You're suggesting a mafia prplhz, known for his passiveness (you don't need to know this), vehemently suggests lynching a town Foolishness in a situation where Foolishness can't possibly get lynched, in order to look terrible later when Fool flips town. It's ludicrous and you should be able to see why this is ludicrous. Engage yo brain. I think I've made it quite clear what i make of Ace. Caller's "mass claim" is silly, and not in any particular way, although I'd lean slightly town from it maybe, for the simple reason towns never massclaim when some random dude with no influence goes "let's all claim", while on the other hand it's a guarantee when some dude does that that at least one person in town goes "wow what a terrible, scummy idea". Effectively there's no upside to a mafia with no thread influence suggesting a massclaim because town will not do it and he will look weird for not doing it. The flipside (and why it's not a strong townlean for that) is that a mafia can just say "yolo let's suggest this" | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On May 09 2014 09:32 Tehpoofter wrote: Haha, I also had a 1 to and 1 from conversation with VE that game.@Austin I don't have QT access but that instantly suspicious thing that you brought up reminds me of Catastrophe where I PMd VE during the PM phase and was hit with nothing but a wall about how he couldn't trust me. (He was traitor in that game) So when you said that it makes me actually feel like he is more Scummy. It's not that he doesn't trust them though. He's instantly asking whether THEY trust each other, looking for what they've been thinking. He starts giving reads, asking for reads, and he drops the jokey bit on thinking BH was scum (he had BH pretty townie actually, all through the lynch). So it's not like he's sewing dissent, he's trying to see where they're at. He doesn't not trust them, and he doesn't not trust me now. @slam/Austin/Jat/Wos/Palmer how is marv's scum game? Cause I had a pretty decent scum read on prphlz but Marv seems really town its hard to think they're the same "person" in the game cause htye seem like different alignments to me. Is marv good enough at scum to look townie like this? His scum game is solid. What seems really town to you about marv so far?On May 09 2014 09:35 marvellosity wrote: He called me a bitch none of this says why VE is town. Please try again  Scum VE has never used dirty language towards me.Also, it certainly indicates why he's town. More than foolish or BH (or myself I think except trying to be all sneaky and being an idiot), VE used the QT to try and figure out THEIR alignments, and also their reads, while sharing his own. I know you dislike him not pushing oats/voting oats, but you wrong. His N1 chat with Ace is someone trying to figure out the game (both Ace himself and see whether he agrees with Ace's thoughts on other players). His QT stuff is him trying to figure out alignments there, and push lynches on scum suspects of his. During the times where VE has actually been here and not in stupid AFK land, he's looked to solve the game and that is positive. You know that. Doesn't vote oats, along with a bunch of folks. Yes, he wouldn't respond to a couple questions I posed about Oats and his Oatsread. That's a + to me. If he's scumbuddies with oats, he doesn't even respond? He goes "I'm defending my scumbuddy, a lynch candidate, and this guy is hounding my scumbuddy, and he's asking about my read on my scumbuddy, I better just entirely ignore it over multiple questions"? No. Not buying it. People who gave shitty justifications like "can't read oats" or "oats is oats" are more likely to be scum, imo, than someone who just wouldn't answer questions about his read on oats. Koshi thing is kinda meh, and if VE loves being right and wants to look all correct, why is he townie on caller ---> vote caller? Like you basically say "VE is mafia because of this Koshi quote where Koshi says VE likes being right" AND "It's worth noting that VE voted caller for a while, despite calling caller town and defending him." At the very least, the second negates the first. VE can't love being right and want to appear right AND take both sides of an issue. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On May 09 2014 09:58 marvellosity wrote: Mostly @poofter here.Ok I'm only going to reply to this once, because it's a waste of my posts that I'm totally not wasting on other things like popcorns. The push on Foolish when Ceph had his claims is practically the towniest thing in his entire filter (other than said generic reasons which i mentioned) and it makes me sad that you don't understand why. Again with the background, prplhz = lurky, useless, does nothing scumplayer (to be fair, he does it as town also, but always as mafia)... anyway prplhz wanting to lynch Fool in general is just a read, lots of people wanted to lynch Foolish. Wanting to lynch Foolish on the day of the cop checks, well that's just unbelievably townie. There is literally zero chance a player like prplhz would stick his neck out and quite forcefully and repeatedly say we should be lynching Foolishness when there's a cop check. He would (and almost any mafia would) want to lynch into the cop claims. Because town is 100% going to lynch into the cop claims, so you're just drawing attention to yourself. You're suggesting a mafia prplhz, known for his passiveness (you don't need to know this), vehemently suggests lynching a town Foolishness in a situation where Foolishness can't possibly get lynched, in order to look terrible later when Fool flips town. It's ludicrous and you should be able to see why this is ludicrous. Engage yo brain. I think I've made it quite clear what i make of Ace. Caller's "mass claim" is silly, and not in any particular way, although I'd lean slightly town from it maybe, for the simple reason towns never massclaim when some random dude with no influence goes "let's all claim", while on the other hand it's a guarantee when some dude does that that at least one person in town goes "wow what a terrible, scummy idea". Effectively there's no upside to a mafia with no thread influence suggesting a massclaim because town will not do it and he will look weird for not doing it. The flipside (and why it's not a strong townlean for that) is that a mafia can just say "yolo let's suggest this" This was basically my reasoning when I called prplhz super townie. Foolishness was more worried about prplhz, just not sure what to make of him and kinda scummy, I was very very townie because sticking neck out and aiming AWAY from the cop checks (when you can just kill the townie and waste time) read very town to me. i THINK that BH being traitor negates this. The rest of prplhz's filter is still valuable and we need to look at it hard, but the voting Foolishness stuff is meh because if scum trusted the check, they knew that EITHER slam or BH was traitor. Scum wanting to lynch outside a town/scum check doesn't make sense to me, because they can push for a 1:1 lynch, at least try and swing things that way. But scum don't want to lynch the traitor. If they haven't tried to recruit, cephiro's check says TO TOWN "one of these guys is scum." TO MAFIA, it says "one of these guys is the traitor." Mafia has, at worst, a 50/50 shot now at recruitment, instead of having to pick the traitor out of everyone. Just waiting even one day lets them try to recruit and be at full strength. I can totally understand mafia wanting to lynch outside the cop check IF the cop checks the traitor. I thought it was super townie because I thought the cop check had found a full-fledged mafia. Marv is arguing the same thing now, and while "scum prplhz dislikes sticking his neck out" is possibly a valid point, "scum would want to lynch into the cop check" is not. | ||
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