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On May 08 2014 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Did anyone expect differently?
Too bad there wasn't another martyr.
I have nine left.
Ace and palmar talking about "Who do we want to take to lylo"
If not me, you folks are idiots. By definition you want confirmed town at lylo. Since I know you aren't idiots,
##Vote: Ace
Ask me why.
no one else is going to do it so I will, give your reasoning. ill listen since your confirmed but please write in english
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On May 08 2014 14:31 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2014 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Did anyone expect differently?
Too bad there wasn't another martyr.
I have nine left.
Ace and palmar talking about "Who do we want to take to lylo"
If not me, you folks are idiots. By definition you want confirmed town at lylo. Since I know you aren't idiots,
##Vote: Ace
Ask me why. no one else is going to do it so I will, give your reasoning. ill listen since your confirmed but please write in english
Whoa! I expected to be ignored!
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Wow, I almost forgot why XD
So Ace has been pushing stuff that doesn't make sense and hasn't been reading the thread very well. He pushes yet not REALLY, he throws out confusion and misinformation
It is like classic scum play really.
However I fear JAT tunnel, because now that I have been taken seriously the shock messed me up
Dang it I had reasons maybe I will remember tomorrow
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On May 08 2014 14:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote:On May 07 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is the perfect situation for scum right now. Austin and JAT now look like shit, the rest of the players in this game aren't even playing...
On May 08 2014 00:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already explained why JAT looks like shit, he has done nothing but push Foolishness all game to the detriment of any other scumhunting and usefulness. I've also already explained why I don't like Austin's push on Fool AFTER he came out with the QT as to me, the QT made him look townier. Also I was/am mad at them/myself. Fact remains that there are still a billion to people to lynch ahead of either of them. I want to say you're one of them but strangely enough your 'proof' actually resonated with me. WoS is 100% mafia. The three variables are a) X = WoS personal read on Justin b) Y = WoS opinion of how rest of town perceives Justin c) Z = The situation quality for mafia The first quote seems to imply WoS's personal read on Justin is that they're town (X = Town), but look bad to rest of town. (Y = Scum). This is consistent with Z = perfect. I initially commented on his post here and called him out on basically saying Justin is confirmed town in his opinion (X = Town). The reason I say this is that given we know the solution (Z = Perfect), there is no way to solve it as X = scum. If we assume X = Scum: WoS then thinks Justin is mafia (or part of him), but if X = Scum and Y = scum (they look really bad), then Z cannot be perfect. In what universe would that be a good situation for mafia? So the only solution that is consistent with WoS's wording is X = Town, which in itself is suspicious. His second quote then starts to waffle on random shit that says nothing, he calls them out on being bad but says maybe other people should be lynched first. Dude is 100% mafia., 100% Lynch with fire. Yeah, I found that to be weird too. bla bla now the most outspoken townies look like shit bla cry whine bla. Dude, WoS that's not true and nobody really believes it! Of course people do! Here is why: bullshit bullshit discredit bullshit bla whine bla bla cry. Not liking it. Hello marv, read quickly - a new perspective on this game would be totally awesome. I claimed dayvig multiple times and still do. so shot suggestions would be nice. My choice would be caller right now (since Aces nuke seems to be fake) for being useless and on the wrong wagons. Justin for the win, lay all your love on us!
K you are really creeping me out
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Oh shot suggestion JAT is DONT. kthx
5/10
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On May 08 2014 14:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think marv will suggest the same thing im going to suggest, you need to shoot a massive lurker as we don't care what their alignment is. Caller not flipping is a terrible idea
The bolded describes Caller pretty well. Who do you think fits that bill better than him and why? Why is Caller not flipping terrible - what information do we gain from his flip?
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Ive explained the connections I feel he has to palmar in my filter and slam tends to agree as well. and obviously I also want to be cleared as town when he flips scum since he has been tunneling me forever. So its self serving but also has purpose at the same time.
I disagree that caller is a lurker because I dont consider low posting to be lurking. he has made stances in the game and has impacted the game with things like his fake nuke.
Hardcore lurkers non contributors that I would happily see no flip would consist of people like gumshoe, VE, Ace, etc.
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##Vote WaveOfShadow
Dude is mafia. Lynch him with fire.
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On May 08 2014 14:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
Ive explained the connections I feel he has to palmar in my filter and slam tends to agree as well.
I have no idea whose connection with me you're talking about.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
At the bottom of page 37 and I'm taking a break. Brief observations, some useful some useless:
s&b lynch was T.T
Caller maybe is town, can't find the reason for him to be mafia right now. Also
On April 26 2014 22:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, trading 1 for 1 is dumb and stupid for scum either way.
Firstly, Caller knows that this shit is totally not helpful for scum especially with no flips. Its way better to claim nuke and say its for a double lynch then nuke and nobody knows whether that dude was scum or not but caller gets cred. Thats just 1 example. Also, it doesnt even take Palmar out of the game and since Palmar's self-professed day 1 is his best, its arguably a waste of a nuke when palmar leaves his super sick list of scum. Caller had no idea what/how palmar would react to this.
Geript not seeing this and masking this lynch as a policy lynch is really bad, especially with the dude with the most votes not being able to shoot so thats a totally better policy vote/lynch than caller who has already shot. Its a 'townie' reaction but its not actually a townie reaction, lynch that shit.
On April 27 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well Palmar says he doesnt have a gun though.
What caller is doing if hes scum is totally outing himself, wasting his nuke on someone he has no idea is gonna play or not and essentially trading himself 1 for 1 especially with so much kp in the game someone is gonna shoot him. So fucking stupid it cant be scum. That is a legit heuristic. I could see scumCaller doing this day 2/3 but not now man come on. Also Palmar is not acting in a town-like fashion so yeah, evidence suggests that Caller is town and we dont kill townies.
Get your votes off him and onto geript/Ace/All the promoters of Caller scum. I prefer geript though, Ace could be this boneheaded as town.
VE is related to this, will talk about further later
austin is extremely town for how he's pushed Oats and also done other stuff, will not reconsider
Palmar is likely to be town because his throwaway reads and comments have chimed with me, also sand was probably partly killed to implicate both Palmar/Fool.
Don't like Wave
On April 28 2014 09:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey, jerks.
Time to consolidate.
I'm not voting snb so if y'all don't think that sandroba essentially not caring about the game (I don't 100% buy the 'weekend' deal) is enough (and it usually is for him) then it's time to figure shit out and tell me who to sheep.
Not a lot of sheepable people in this game right now imo
On April 28 2014 09:28 sandroba wrote:
I'm back.
@wos any reason why you are not considering oats in your post?
On April 28 2014 10:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 10:15 geript wrote:
Here's the thing. I don't see any better wagon right now. Not having a lynch is 100% not acceptable. SnB is wagon of justice people. Do the right thing. Free smores to everyone who joins.
~21 Sorry luv muffin You're my bro and all, but I just don't think SnB is scum. I don't know what sandro's return to the thread makes me think, especially considering I was looking at Oats before he told me that's what I should be doing. Problem with Oats of course, being I can't read that guy worth a dick (was wrong about him for the first day or two in Catastrophe). If you had to lynch somebody who wasn't Oats (because apparently you don't think he's scum even though his filter admittedly looks real shit) and wasn't SnB, who would it be? ##Unvote
Votes Oats later, but goes back to s&b. Not great.
Vayne is Vayne, seems more likely to come from town-Vayne because it's all kinda silly. Koshi also had him as totes town, I trust that read to an extent regardless of his alignment
Ace extremely nondescript
VE looks the worst to me out of anyone so far
On April 28 2014 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: strongandbig
I've exceeded my allotted post limit. I have my reservations about a strongandbig lynch, but I think Oats is town and we're out of options.
Why is Oats town?
On April 28 2014 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:I may be willing to switch to Oats, but SnB has been calling me scum and that's not the kind of sentiment I like hanging around /my/ town. 
Kinda flips his vote around a bit later, weakly. He also gets on Palmar's ass, weakly (day 2).
Agree with this
On April 27 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
VE talking so much about this Caller business because VE is scum and he enjoys talking about something he is right on. I am extremely bored btw. You people should entertain me more.
On April 27 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
VE talking so much about this Caller business because VE is scum and he enjoys talking about something he is right on. I am extremely bored btw. You people should entertain me more. Smart man.
Included Palmar because that's an example of Palmar doing something I'd expect a townie to do, because I thought the same. If we lynched VE and VE flipped mafia, Caller is practically confirmed town. Worth noting that VE plopped a vote on Caller at some stage despite his many defences of Caller (reasoning: w/e)
One more interesting VE thing: he threatens yamato with shooting his brains out. He doesn't have that role apparently, but anyway, mafia-VE has threatened to shoot me before as well. Just a little thing.
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Meh.
Not scum but lost my will to live in this game really. I think the only thing keeping me going would be to keep my mislynch stat low because I already assume this is a win for scum.
If you guys think Palmar is capable of catching me out completely based on one post as scum then by all means. I'm gone all day and am show up sporadically if something interests me. This game was much less stressful and annoying when I didn't care about it. Now I know why everyone else does the same!
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a) I could be mafia pushing you waveofshadow.
b) you suck if you give up as town
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WoS is just apathetic. Towniest person left in the game.
Lynch Caller yo.
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i say we massclaim at this point, since we're clearly out of night protection and mafia are just going to shoot confirmed town anyways (read: alakaslam). i refuse to believe that town has only one cop, a bunch of idiot day shooters, some martyrs, and a useless fucking fake nuke, while mafia has (so far) a day vig and a mason mafia.
do we not have a coroner? do we not have a jailer? has jailer been constantly jailing somebody, thus denying mafia kp? Seriously, let's go.
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On May 08 2014 22:26 Ace wrote:
I claim Overlord
alright we lynch Ace for obviously lying
##Vote: Ace
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On May 08 2014 20:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Meh.
Not scum but lost my will to live in this game really. I think the only thing keeping me going would be to keep my mislynch stat low because I already assume this is a win for scum.
If you guys think Palmar is capable of catching me out completely based on one post as scum then by all means. I'm gone all day and am show up sporadically if something interests me. This game was much less stressful and annoying when I didn't care about it. Now I know why everyone else does the same!
Your mindset is serously annoying me right now. We mislynched after 2 consecutive scum lynches. So what? We have quite a few townie looking people. Why is this a win for scum?
Man up and just play the damn game, dude.
On May 08 2014 22:21 Caller wrote:
i say we massclaim at this point, since we're clearly out of night protection and mafia are just going to shoot confirmed town anyways (read: alakaslam). i refuse to believe that town has only one cop, a bunch of idiot day shooters, some martyrs, and a useless fucking fake nuke, while mafia has (so far) a day vig and a mason mafia.
do we not have a coroner? do we not have a jailer? has jailer been constantly jailing somebody, thus denying mafia kp? Seriously, let's go.
What the fuck do we gain by massclaiming? I mean apart from making it easier for scum to choose their kills obviously.
@marv: The thing is - do you see a reason for caller to be town? I mean I am not dead set on shooting him over people like VE or gumshoe but he was on like every wrong wagon and useless besides that. Also, I don't really see why people think VA is town and I won't sheep a day1 read from Koshi who was very wrong on many things this game.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 09 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:
@marv: The thing is - do you see a reason for caller to be town? I mean I am not dead set on shooting him over people like VE or gumshoe but he was on like every wrong wagon and useless besides that. Also, I don't really see why people think VA is town and I won't sheep a day1 read from Koshi who was very wrong on many things this game.
Just finished reading the thread.
Don't have great reasons for Caller to be town, but the Oats posts and his general attitude leave it as a possibility, and he is at least tied to players like Oats + VE, which means information can be gathered.
I think gumshoe is reasonably likely to be town. One reason is that he went quite hard on Oats at some point. Also BH went at him. The biggest reason, imo (connecting the two), is that gumshoe made a very very long post saying for a long time how his accuser, BH, was town. Having spent a bazillion words saying how his accuser was town, he then used this sidestep to... call Oats mafia instead. This seems like such an unlikely mindset/sequence for mafia to pull off. Why bother spending so much time saying how your accuser is not mafia (when he is your scumbuddy) only to call another scumbuddy mafia instead? Simpler explanation = he is town.
VA is quite possibly town because he keeps banging on about whatever his role is like a weirdo as if anyone ever gives a shit, but he just keeps on going on about it. Reminds me a bit of Hogwarts when he kept saying he was practically confirmed town for something role-related.
You should shoot Ace 100%. He has nothing tying him to anyone. His flip is meaningless in regards to anyone else's alignment. Town loses nothing by losing Ace, and we might just hit a mafia. There's no particularly good reason to think he's town or scum, and with a lack of other connecting information, he is essentially the perfect shot.
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im guessing marvel is town from that post. TIs all.
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Ok, your opinion is noted and understood.
I share the feeling about gumshoe but you must keep in mind that BH was potentially not on the scumteam since he was the traitor so associative tells kinda suck here.
Who do we lynch today?
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On May 09 2014 00:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:
@marv: The thing is - do you see a reason for caller to be town? I mean I am not dead set on shooting him over people like VE or gumshoe but he was on like every wrong wagon and useless besides that. Also, I don't really see why people think VA is town and I won't sheep a day1 read from Koshi who was very wrong on many things this game. Just finished reading the thread. Don't have great reasons for Caller to be town, but the Oats posts and his general attitude leave it as a possibility, and he is at least tied to players like Oats + VE, which means information can be gathered. I think gumshoe is reasonably likely to be town. One reason is that he went quite hard on Oats at some point. Also BH went at him. The biggest reason, imo (connecting the two), is that gumshoe made a very very long post saying for a long time how his accuser, BH, was town. Having spent a bazillion words saying how his accuser was town, he then used this sidestep to... call Oats mafia instead. This seems like such an unlikely mindset/sequence for mafia to pull off. Why bother spending so much time saying how your accuser is not mafia (when he is your scumbuddy) only to call another scumbuddy mafia instead? Simpler explanation = he is town. VA is quite possibly town because he keeps banging on about whatever his role is like a weirdo as if anyone ever gives a shit, but he just keeps on going on about it. Reminds me a bit of Hogwarts when he kept saying he was practically confirmed town for something role-related. You should shoot Ace 100%. He has nothing tying him to anyone. His flip is meaningless in regards to anyone else's alignment. Town loses nothing by losing Ace, and we might just hit a mafia. There's no particularly good reason to think he's town or scum, and with a lack of other connecting information, he is essentially the perfect shot. BH was traitor, not pure mafia.
Do you believe that he was recruited super early, and therefore D2 Gumshoe knew of BH? Because otherwise, a mafia Gumshoe has no knowledge of BH, they're not scumbuddies.
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