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Yell0w
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Anytime is good for me. | ||
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On April 29 2014 11:23 27ninjabunnies wrote: May I point out you said this. Yet you don't think him talking a lot is indicative of being mafia? Contradicting yourself already? Ohhh! You got me, I'm mafia. | ||
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On April 29 2014 11:50 Amiko wrote: @Yell0w: What do you think of ninjabunnies voting for you? As in, do you see that as a more town response by her? A more mafia response by her? Neutral? I don't really know, she has a reasoning for it, she played with people who claimed mafia like that and ended up actually being mafia, but obviously it's flawed logic and anecdotal evidence, it's not because someone did it that me making a joke about being mafia means I'm mafia. But that fact that she has that reason makes me think she's not doing it as a mafia play, but obviously she might just have come up with it to make it seems that way, so I don't know. | ||
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Yell0w
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I didn't change my read, when I said sqrt was probably mafia because he talked, I wasn't being serious, so when you asked I told you what I really thought. It's insane to me that you would take that as me contradicting myself, which is why I then joked saying "you got me I'm mafia". | ||
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Yell0w
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Also I'm pretty convinced bunnies is town now, probably epishade too, the rest I don't know. | ||
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I was actually really happy with my response and wouldn't have changed it in any way, I think it created a big conversation really early in day 1, which is pretty great. And I have a coach if I have questions like "how to be more town?", I wouldn't ask that in the thread. Still catching up though, will probably post more. | ||
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Yell0w
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On April 29 2014 12:27 27ninjabunnies wrote: I mean, I'm all for reaction testing, but can someone explain to me why this is okay to do, and what I did apparently is scummy as fuck? Especially when I havent seen sweetfrost talk once? Just to point it out, how is this question better? She's basically asking the same thing, wondering what she did that was scummy so she can stop doing it. I'm just saying. | ||
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Yell0w
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On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote: Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far. 1. Sarcasm? Really? How is that even remotely close to a good reason? 2. I did not ask that. I find this whole post really weird, why are you so intent on killing me for sarcasm? And then when bunnies ask more questions about what you think of me, you just disappear and don't answer. On April 29 2014 13:23 27ninjabunnies wrote: 2. I wanted to see what Yellow thought to my questioning, to see if we had the same read on sqrt. Because here is why. There are two types of mafia imo: The ones who lurk, and the mafia who tend to want to be the first to talk or talk the most. I wanted to see what Yellow read into Sqrt, as if he was thought Sqrt was the latter mafia. I agree 100% with you, some mafia talks a lot, which is why I said he was mafia, to get a reaction from him of something and maybe start a conversation, because what was going on seemed pointless to me. A conversation did arise, which is good, but I do want to point out that sqrt, despite talking a lot early, then barely talked when we started talking about me. And like I thought him talking at the beginning wasn't indicative of anything, since he might just be a talkative person, I don't think the fact he stopped means anything. It could be mafia play, talk a lot about pointless stuff then stop when we're talking about lynching a town and jump on the BW later to get an easy lynch but not be a target if the BW never happens, but it could be town play and he just happened to be neutral on me and didn't want to disrupt the conversation. | ||
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Yell0w
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On April 29 2014 20:10 mtamburini wrote: What question do you want asked, I gave my reasoning on why Yellow should be lynched today.. His sarcastic remarks (joking posts to some) are highly indicative of an experienced mafia not knowing what to say in that situation when caught in a contradiction as bunny pointed out. Next he asks someone how he shouldve responded to that to look more towny. As town people you dont care about acting towny because you are town, as mafia you care about acting towny so no one finds out your mafia. I feel like you contradicted yourself, you say we should lynch me because sarcasm and asking how to be more town, same reason as before, but this time you say that sarcasm is indicative of an experienced mafia, and you said before that asking how to be more town is a rookie mafia mistake, so take your pick, am I an experience mafia or a rookie mafia? Can't have it both ways. @ahswtini Don't know how I caused chaos and confusion, if you consider a big conversation to be chaos and confusion, then sure okay, but then you also become my top suspect. There was no serious conversation going on before I and bunnies started talking and I'm the one not taking the game seriously? I just thought bunnies' attack on me was extremely silly @Sweetfrost I'm not gonna call you sweety, just saying. | ||
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Yell0w
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On April 29 2014 23:21 Sweetfrost wrote: I must agree that Yell0ws joking claims makes him a prime suspect. I feel he tries way to hard to convince everyone that he's not scum with his joking and sarcastic remarks. What remarks were joking and/or sarcastic since I became a suspect? On April 30 2014 00:13 mtamburini wrote: That was meant to say inexperienced my phone must of auto corrected it. And to say I disappeared after my comment some people acquire sleep to function. I was unaware I had to report when I went to bed and woke up. Do you want to know when in eating too? Maybe when I go to the bathroom as well? And I'm the one under fire for using sarcasm? Now that's laughable. I wasn't even saying you were mafia because you contradicted yourself, I just wanted to point out your reasons for voting against me were not very good. And you're allowed to disappear, but the timing was weird and then you came back and didn't answer her question, so... | ||
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Yell0w
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And about Epishade, I think it's just because he was the first to defend me, which would make no sense as a mafia play, why wouldn't he just jump on the BW of an easy lynch? The possibility raised by dravernor that they're both mafia and made this plot so both of them would look town is, I think, unlikely, because, again, Occam's razor. But I'm not sure on either of them, it's just the most likely scenario is that they're both town, by a pretty wide margin, I think. And about Eden, I was asked, though I was planning on talking about it a little bit anyways, he was actually the person I thought was the most suspicious last night, I just don't think his behavior made sense. I didn't have time to analyse it fully though and I will probably talk about it some more, but I am glad someone brought it up. | ||
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Yell0w
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And then when bunnies unvoted me, he was very fast to randomly vote against someone else and then changed his vote almost instantly.And the last thing I read before going to sleep was that he said what bunnies did wasn't scummy at all and people who thought that were fools or worse. Again, no idea why he would say that. So I don't really understand him and I don't know what to take of all that, I just thought his behavior was really... weird, so I found him suspicious. But looking at it right now, it doesn't necessarily strike me as being mafia plays, so I just don't know. | ||
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Yell0w
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Just wanted to say that I agree about everything you said on Sweetfrost, and I also wanted to add that I feel like he didn't even read the entire thread when he says something like: On April 29 2014 23:21 Sweetfrost wrote: I must agree that Yell0ws joking claims makes him a prime suspect. I feel he tries way to hard to convince everyone that he's not scum with his joking and sarcastic remarks. When I really don't think I made any sarcastic or joking remarks since I became a suspect, I think he just went with what tamburini said to say I'm the prime suspect without actually reading what I said. Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody. | ||
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On April 30 2014 04:35 Sweetfrost wrote: What remarks were joking and/or sarcastic since I became a suspect? Well as stated before your "You're right I'm Mafia" and you asking for advice how to act more as a townie is the prime reason I suspect you. Do keep in mind that I'm suspecting you, not accusing you. It's still day 1 and I'm still not sure about anything. As I stated they two people I suspect as Scum is you and Bunny. I'm haven't decided where to cast my vote yet. That was before I became a suspect, that's the post I became a suspect for, so when you're saying: "I must agree that Yell0ws joking claims makes him a prime suspect. I feel he tries way to hard to convince everyone that he's not scum with his joking and sarcastic remarks." You're just straight up not making any sense since I didn't use sarcasm or made jokes since that and you just seem to retake exactly what tamburini said, which is extremely suspicious. And that was just one remark, you said remarkS. | ||
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Yell0w
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He actually previously stated that you or me were mafia, but not both. | ||
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So few things, first I already talked about bunnies and my reasoning as to why I think she's town, you didn't bring anything more that wasn't already said here. Second, you were the first to move off the conversation about me when bunnies unvoted me and you started voting other people and stuff, so I have no idea how you could possibly bring up that as an argument against me. Also, I didn't say she was insane and I see no issue with disagreeing with someone's reasoning and still thinking they're town. Third, you actually think knowing what other people think isn't important as town? I think it's primordial to the game, if you know what they think you know what alignment they are. I do not understand your logic here. And the rest is about how I whined and wasn't proactive, so I don't how or where I whined, but I agree that I wasn't proactive, though I think I was more proactive than others. The reason I haven't been proactive is, well first I was being attacked, but also I don't like telling all my reads early in day 1, I think it's counter productive because if I say this or this thing that person did seemed mafia to me, they can easily change their behavior, so I don't say everything I think. And yes I have pretty much only been saying things other said before, except when I was asked questions. I think you're reading way too much into me thinking you were suspicious last night, I wasn't analyzing, it was just a gut feeling at the time, while I was being attacked, today I looked at it and you didn't seem that suspicious. I really don't get the part about Sweetfrost though, yes I just brought it up after Epishade, but how is what I said not an important piece of information here? His post seems to indicate he didn't read the thread, it says I have been making multiple sarcastic or joking remarks, which I haven't been, it felt to me like he was agreeing hard with tamburini without really knowing why. interaction with bunnies isn't good at all You seemed fine with it yesterday. way too defensive I don't see how, you didn't make that case at all. not proactive or scumhunting at all That's the only decent argument you have, and if that's just it, there are better targets here, in my opinion. | ||
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Yell0w
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So here goes, in no specific orders: mysterymeat1, I don't think he did anything at all, yet seems present in the thread just lurking. ahswtini, basically just said he didn't like sarcasm because it caused confusion and said that he didn't suspect tamburini and was on the fence on sweetfrost, that's pretty much it, no suspicious read at all. I think dfs also hasn't said much, he did say tamburini was suspicious, don't quite remember if someone said it before though. And I disagree with the second part of your question. | ||
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Yell0w
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No, I said there was better targets in people who haven't been proactive or scumhunting, since that was his only good argument, in my opinion. So when Eden asked what those better targets where, he was asking who I thought was less proactive and not scumhunting than me, of course he tried to make it seem like that wasn't his query, but it was. So I answered and said who I thought wasn't doing these things. So I'm saying these are the better lynch targets, if we're lynching people for not being proactive and scumhunting. They are not my biggest scum reads, because he wasn't asking for that. | ||
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Yell0w
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Basically I'm not sure about Tamburini, his attack on me seemed odd and bold if he's mafia, but the fact that he basically dodged to answer as to why he's so intent on killing makes me think he's scum, but if he's town, he has been a terrible town leader, obviously I disagree with where you say towns shouldn't try to appear as town, I think that's silly, I said that before. I agree on sqrt, but he did seem to be trying to start conversations when there wasn't one, I just don't think he was doing anything when there was one. I disagree about Epishade, he seems town to me, I don't think his play makes sense if he's mafia and you did not convince me otherwise, but I would like to hear more though. Obviously I know I'm town and you don't, so he's fishier from your point of view I guess. And my scum reads now, since you asked: I don't like Sweetfrost at all, I asked him a question, he clearly didn't answer properly and then ignored anything I said. He seems to be pretty convinced me or bunnies are mafia, I think his case on bunnies is pretty weak, and his case on me is confused and is basically exactly what Tamburini said. Then he votes against sqrt because of what you said, not giving any other reason. I think he might be pretending to be scumhunting, going after someone we aren't going to kill now so it's pointless anyways and a waste of discussion in bunnies and then me and sqrt which he only gave someone else's reasons why. Also the fact that at multiple instances he shows he didn't read the thread, he thinks bunnies is a guy, he says stuff like... "As soon as Yell0w became a suspect he(bunnies) has been pushing his guiltiness hard." So clearly not aware that bunnies is the one who thought I was suspicious at first and said I made mutliple sarcastic remarks after being a suspect. He answered one of my question, didn't do it properly and then ignored when I said what he said didn't make sense. So, in my head, I felt like Sweetfrost seemed allied with Tamburini, they gave the exact same reasons to lynch me and bunnies was being suspicious of Tamburini when Sweetfrost said bunnies was suspicious. But I don't know how to feel about Tamburini, though definitely leaning scum, I thought he was really scummy at first, but thinking about it his play seems like a really weird mafia play, and then reading his posts, his attitude just irritates me so maybe that's why I put him in mafia in my head. Just when he says he wants to lynch me for sarcasm and then uses sarcasm himself was pretty annoying to me. But like I said earlier, he didn't answer questions when asked and disappeared, then came back to say he had the right to disappear if he chose to and then left again, still without answering. That felt really scummy to me. And his attack on me felt like he waited for me to leave to say that he thought I was scummy since the start! But somehow didn't say anything before. Maybe he thought he could get an easy lynch because of the way he made my question sound and the fact I wasn't there to defend myself. I'd be willing to lynch either of them. And now as to why you shouldn't vote against me, I think the reason I came back to the center of attention is because the question I asked you which I thought you didn't answer properly by the way, and I don't really know why that question seems so indicative of mafia play in people's minds. I basically wanted to know how you would have acted in that situation, I thought it would give me insight into your play style, I still don't understand what was wrong with it. Nor would I ever see a mafia asking "how to be more town?" in a thread like this, it's pretty silly to me that people think a mafia could slip up that way. | ||
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I answered all of your points in either my response to you or in other posts, restating your points again doesn't mean I have to answer again, actually counter-argue my arguments and I might reply to you, please don't just link to another logical fallacy without saying anything. @ritoky Regarding tamburini, I just want to make sure you're not reading him as not scummy just because you think that, if he is, he will slip up later. He hasn't been leading town, has been barely active at all yet he claimed town leader. So I don't know what more you want, it's very suspicious to me, he could just keep acting this way, when will you start thinking he's mafia? I just feel right now I became the center of attention because of one small sarcastic comment I made before any real discussion started and stayed there since then, so I'm the obvious lynch, both for townies and for scums, and that worries me. | ||
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Yell0w
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I engaged both of those people and I don't think you can deny that. | ||
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Yell0w
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The fact he voted against me right after bunnies unvoted me is the only reason I'm not 100% convinced he's mafia, I think he's mafia for his attitude after voting against me and the fact he still hasn't answered bunnies' questions. Also he felt to me like Sweetfrost was just agreeing with him for no reason, so they felt like mafia partners to me. But, just to make it clear, I agree with your number 2 points there, that is a weird mafia play, but still possible, especially since he claimed town leader, so he needs to appear like he's leading town by pushing lynch. | ||
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Yell0w
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So who are your scumreads? Is it still me and Eden? | ||
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I thought Epishade was town, but now I can see how he could be scummy, defending me and attacking my attackers maybe to be seen as town if I get mislynch today and he seems to be protecting sqrt pretty hard in my opinion, so that's something to look at. Mysterymeat first of all saying he was inactive because he had "shit due tomorrow" is inconsistent with earlier when he clearly seemed there and reading the thread, but said he didn't have anything to post, so that's suspicious. Sweetfrost still thinks me or bunnies is scum, yet he doesn't seem to be doing anything to prove his point, the guy hasn't interacted with me at all even when I tried to engage him. Dravernor made a long post not saying anything that wasn't said before, he's the most suspicious of Epishade, yet his case against him is really weak and other people made much stronger cases against epishade. I also don't think Eden made a strong case against me, and just saying he did doesn't make it so. I think dravernor needs to be more specifics in what he says, because the way he's talking seems suspicious to me, all fluff and no substance. And with what mysterymeat just said, despite that I think he's suspicious, I'm fine with not lynching today and lynching him tomorrow if he doesn't become noticeably more useful. | ||
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Yell0w
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I'm just not sure why he would claim now without really saying anything else, why, if he mishoots, he's gonna sit in a corner and be useless, since he's gonna be a confirmed town and why he went so hard on me when he can just kill me in the night if he's convinced I'm mafia. | ||
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Yell0w
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I didn't even consider serial killer, never played with any third party role before, but it does make a lot of sense with what he just said. | ||
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So in conclusion, Huge downsides: 2 kp instead of 1 Small upsides: we might get a confirmed town in 2 days. And I don't get how we can have a confirmed town tomorrow, in any scenario I can think of, if he's alive tomorrow morning, what ever happened, I wouldn't trust what he says. And the fact I originally thought we would have a confirmed town tomorrow if he survives the night is why I didn't think we should lynch him, but I forgot about the possibility of him being sk. | ||
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I was on the fence between sweetfrost and tamburini, I said why I thought they were scummy, but I just can't get behind tamburini's actions and overall uselessness to town, the only thing he did was tunneling hard on me and then claiming vigi out of nowhere. I don't think what he did made any sense if he's the actual vigi. He didn't even come close to being the town leader he promised us to be and he didn't even try to defend himself from suspicions, he just claimed vigi. I don't think he's the vigi and I think if he is, it's a good risk to take, because we don't actually get anything from him being the vigi since he's not being active at all, just a random shot in the night from someone who can't even seem to read the whole thread since it gives him a headache, and we won't get a confirmed town because he could always be the serial killer, and it's really bad for us if he is sk and we don't lynch him. ##VOTE mtamburini | ||
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Yell0w
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I don't think this lynch was made by mafia, most likely scenario is we didn't scare mafia enough, so they just voted randomly. So if I am alive tomorrow, I'd probably look at some guys who didn't get votes against them and didn't vote for sweetfrost, I'd say at most one mafia voted against him, my bet would be sqrt. So I'd look towards the quiet people, like ahs, dravernor or mysterymeat, maybe dfs. That obviously depends on what happens during the night though. | ||
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Yell0w
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Can't say I'm surprised Amiko was killed though, he seemed like the most useful town. | ||
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Yell0w
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But really you ask me why I'm alive and then you claim you were roleblocked? Why would you ask if you already knew? | ||
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Yell0w
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I don't get how that would indicate anything, either I have no idea why, or I'm mafia and we have a roleblocker in the team, so I would say I have no idea why, or I'm the town roleblocker, so I'd just say I have no idea why, because why would I tell people I'm a roleblocker. So there is no way you would get anything from my reaction, which would invariably be that I don't know why I'm alive. There is still 2 other scenarios though, you're mafia or you're town but not the vigi. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 03 2014 18:40 MysteryMeat1 wrote: well first off, its good to be back. I promise from now on ill be posting a lot more so if you have any questions please let me know! As for reads i'm suspicious of anyone that voted for sweetfrost except for bunnies casue i think she is town. I think it is almost guarenteed that mtamburini is vig as there have been no counterclaimes and that he was roleblocked. Im vanilla town and unfortunately i don't have a role. Just a loyal worshipper of the helix. I think ashwanti is town just cause he voted for me and the fact that i wasn't particualrly active. If bunnies doesn't die at night within the next couple of nights i would like to this she is mafia. However due to the fact that vigi is already known i expect her to live a few more nights which is unfortunate. As for now i'm pretty suspicious of epishade. I think dfs is town just cause his thoughts above are soo wrong. How is ahs voting for you in any way indicative that he's town? He could have been sure that a town was getting lynched so he made a random vote that had no impact on anything, and we all think you're suspicious, so it's not like we were going to disagree with his vote. | ||
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Bunnies: Pretty convinced she's town, she seems really genuine. Eden: I thought he was suspicious all the way through day 1, but the fact that he keeps changing his minds on things, especially on me, while he could probably have gotten an easy lynch if he pushed makes me think he's a townie trying to get information and lynch a mafia, not just lynch the easy target. Epishade: I had him as town before when he defended me at the beginning, but then I felt like he was trying to hard to make himself known as the guy who would be town if we mislynched me day 1, and then day 2 he immediately wants to lynch me while still thinking I'm town. Not convinced he's mafia though, I can see his play making sense if he's town. I also don't buy the argument that he's mafia because he voted to lynch a town. He was one of the first, if not the first, to say Sweetfrost was suspicious, and he was suspicious, so Epishade's vote makes sense and the BW on Sweetfrost happened after his vote. sqrt: I found him pretty suspicious since pretty early in the game, I think most people did, just the way he posts, always short with minimum info on anything, mostly just asking weird questions to people. My biggest concern is his vote, he was the last to vote on Sweetfrost and his reason was that the general consensus is that he's mafia, that's some pretty hardcore bandwagoning. And his vote saved tamburini, I think a mafia sqrt would want to save a vigi tamburini because he was going to shoot a town (me). Would be fine with lynching him right now. Tamburini: So that guy... I really don't like the way he played this game, but I guess I believe he's vigi, it's the most likely scenario, I'm not sure why everyone believe he cannot possibly be mafia though? It seems like everyone thinks he's vigi or maybe sk, but not mafia, I think he could be mafia and not have been roleblocked at all. I don't like that he's trying to lynch me again when he can just kill me if he's vigi, and I would be dead by now if he never claimed vigi and just played a better day 1. So I'd say most likely vigi, but I'm not convinced at all. ritoky: I guess he seems mostly town, only thing I don't like is he was the only one to vote against ahs but didn't do anything to convince others that ahs was scummy and he didn't do much to defend Sweetfrost from a lynch despite that he thought Sweetfrost was town. Even Amiko pointed out that nobody was defending Sweetfrost. Maybe 63% town  People who are flying under the radar by barely posting: dfs: No idea, hasn't posted enough, but he's the most town of the four barely active players though in my mind. mysterymeat: He said he was going to be more active, he has barely been more active, a little at the beginning but then stopped, his read on dfs makes no sense to me, but I don't know why he would do it if he was mafia either. I kind of want to hear more from him, but would not be opposed to lynching him. ahs: That guy's definitely fishy, I especially didn't like the post where he just shows up to make a recap of what others said without adding any kind of opinion to what was said. And then he just votes for mysterymeat, probably the easiest of targets. By not voting against one of the possible people getting lynched that day, he doesn't put himself in the crosshair. dravernor: That guy just showed up a few time, hasn't posted yet in day 2 too btw, and everytime he makes a big post not saying anything, I mean he made a huge paragraph about me saying he was on the fence, then he wasn't, then he was, and other useless things, not saying why I was suspicious at all. This whole post is huge and lacks any kind of new information. In the end of that post, he votes against Epishade, and I have absolutely no clue why. The only thing he seems to disagree with others was Amiko and bunnies, he thought they were looking too town for him I guess. So I'd like to think he's mafia, but my concern is he doesn't seem to be with anybody at all, so if he's mafia I have no clue with whom. So in conclusion, I don't have any strong scum reads right now, I know, I suck, I think I'm missing something or that the mafias are being inactive and letting us kill each other, I'm going to think about it all and I hope I find a strong suspect before the end of the day, but right now I'd be fine with a sqrt lynch or one of the 4 inactive people. | ||
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Yell0w
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Yes, every mafias would know that you're town if you're town, I have no idea why you'd say that, and yes you are an easy target, because you've been acting suspiciously. Also not sure why you aren't just voting against me if you want tamburini to shoot me so much tonight. | ||
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##Vote: mtamburini | ||
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That all reminds me of that time you complained I used sarcasm and used sarcasm like 3 posts later, good times. | ||
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On May 06 2014 04:35 mtamburini wrote: I vote mtam to teach him a lesson on claiming vig day 1. SOUNDS BUTTHURT TO ME AND NOT TRYING TO FIGURE REST OF GAME OUT It feels to me like you proved my point there. | ||
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Yell0w
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But right now I just want to know why tamburini seems to be considered by everyone to be 100% the vigi when he has done nothing to prove that, he didn't shoot or anything, I think it's possible he was never roleblocked too. Here's an scenario that's, I think, possible, he's scum with meat and claim he was roleblocked night 1 then meat claims he was roleblocked night 2 but none of that actually happened, the roleblock night 1 on tamburini was to make it seems like he was the vigi but he couldn't shoot and the one night 2 was because they were concerned meat was suspicious and we might lynch him so that by making it seems like he was roleblocked by mafia, he wouldn't be a suspect, though clearly that didn't work. Today they have been clearing each other pretty hard and tamburini in both mornings acted really weirdly, asking me why I was alive then asking who was roleblocked before saying if he was roleblocked or not is really strange behavior for a supposedly confirmed town. The only flaw I can see with that plan at first look is the vigi claim was really risky if you're not actually the vigi, maybe he just got lucky and there wasn't a vigi this game. Anyways, I didn't analyze this thing fully, just something that randomly popped in my head, why is nobody considering the possibility that he isn't vigi? Why didn't they kill him if he's vigi? Why wouldn't he shoot if he's vigi? | ||
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On May 08 2014 00:30 mtamburini wrote: Its good your thinking about the game but in all reality would you rather kill the vigi or would you go for a role that could give out more information like parity cop? Well if I was mafia, I would definitely have killed you or roleblocked you twice a row since you wanted to shoot me, which leads me to believe that if you are the vigi, you probably didn't suspect a mafia at all so they see you as harmless. | ||
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Yell0w
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Yell0w
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So I'm going to change my vote, people can follow me or not, I think you're scum and it's the second time you put me as scum, both times right after I said I thought you were suspicious, and then when I say I think you're town, you think I'm town too, now THAT's suspicious. ##UNVOTE ##Vote: Eden1892 | ||
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Yell0w
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So what if you did? All that does for me is increase my suspicion that we're at LYLO. If you are mafia, you killing a teammate doesn't bring you any closer to defeat; you still only need to force one mislynch. So that clearly doesn't make sense, it definitely puts me further from victory, why wouldn't I just take the easy win and lynch meat when he already had 3 votes if I'm mafia with drav and ahs? If that's a case against me in the first paragraph, I don't understand it. Sounds like you're saying that because I've been trying to get my scum (or in d1 tambo's case anti-town) reads lynched, I'm mafia. Which doesn't make sense at all. You've been actively leading town in the wrong direction, because you've been only targeting towns. I don't see how that doesn't make you suspicious. The second paragraph is hella amusing because I was on you before you did anything of note against me d1 and I forgot about you in my initial list of reads from today. If there's one thing that doesn't point to it's "I care about what Yell0w thinks about me." And then in the same post where you vote for me after I call you suspicious, when previously you said it wasn't worth going after me today, you say that I'm suspicious because I'm reacting to you. If anyone's reacting to anyone else here, you're reacting to me. No, you didn't say anything against me at the beginning when bunnies was on me, then I said I thought you were the most suspicious and then you arrive and make a huge case against me, you're clearly remembering wrong. And the argument isn't that you care what I think about you, it's that you care what people in general think about you and you just want to lynch them for thinking you're suspicious, which isn't at all what you should be doing if you're town, but it is exactly what you should do as mafia. And yes I'm reacting to you acting scummy, what's wrong with that? | ||
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Yell0w
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The person I think is the most scummy voted against both of those people today, that's you by the way, so yes I'm going to vote for a third party because I don't want to lynch a town like you do. There was sqrt, there was me, everyone seems to think tamburini is town, that's three town targeted by you, it's starting to be a pattern. And I think I've been vocal about you being scummy, so you say I'm mafia, sqrt and epishade are others who thought you were suspicious and you said they were both scummy, that's another pattern. But yes you found yourself in a very good situation where you didn't have to kill people who thought you were scummy, because most people thought you were town. | ||
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Yell0w
120 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: dfs @Eden I answered your question, you're mafia, you want to kill town, you lead a vote against dravernor, therefore she's town, how do you not understand that is beyond me. | ||
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Yell0w
120 Posts
On May 08 2014 06:09 Eden1892 wrote: If any of you leave dravernor to vote with this clear scum I will end you. Don't fall for this. Yell0w/ahswtini/dravernor scumteam for sure. Well thanks for making it clear that you and dfs are both mafia. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 08 2014 06:16 Eden1892 wrote: Says the guy trying to do everything in his power to deflect from dravernor! Please. You didn't even make a case for dfs! You're just sheeping people's prior suspicions of him. Fuck that, you're mafia, dfs is town, dravernor's mafia, this is obvious and I swear to god if we don't lynch dravernor today heads are gonna roll. That doesn't make sense, how is me defending someone I think isn't mafia indicative that I'm mafia? You didn't say anything against me except that I think you're scum and that I'm defending dravernor, that is your case against me. And if I was doing everything I could do protect dravernor, why didn't I just vote meat? And now you defend dfs hardcore, but I'm the mafia for defending somebody. I have no idea how people can't see you're mafia, what you're saying is making no sense, yet you're sticking with it. | ||
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Yell0w
120 Posts
We should probably just do that day 1 next game since clearly we're all awful at reading people, right? | ||
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Yell0w
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Yeah that's what I'm saying, she was inactive so we're lynching her, it's the same reason meat was considered because he was inactive early in the game and dfs barely posted, that's why people are voting against them. And clearly you are bad at reading people since you made 4 votes, 3 of them were town and one is yet to be determined. Though you might be mafia and you're actually really good at reading people, if so I apologize. | ||
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Yell0w
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Yell0w
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Now who you should shoot, I think the obvious ahs and dfs are your best bets, it's hard to get anything off of the filters since none of them spoke a lot. Epishade already made a case against ahs, so I'm gonna say that dravernor spoke about dfs 3 times, once to say that dfs was leaning town, than an other to say he was town, and then, 2 hours before her death, she makes another big posts with reads saying she doesn't know what to think of dfs. It's a weak bus, but it's there. And dfs only talked about dravernor twice, basically to say he doesn't know what she is, but he did say there was better targets the last time he spoke about her, which was day 2. Notice how he didn't talk about her at all in day 3 while she was being considered for lynch? Then there is obviously the fact that he is the only person with dravernor to keep his vote on mysterymeat at the end, which speaks volume about his alignment. | ||
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Yell0w
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So, I assume they probably roleblocked him in the night too, but maybe not. Anyways, if we have a cop or something that wants to claim now, that would be great. | ||
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Yell0w
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##Vote: dfs | ||
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Yell0w
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Yell0w
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And you shouldn't lynch me because I'm town, so that's that. So I want to lynch Eden now because first of all he was one of the 2 persons named by meat as being mafia before he died and now he's not even trying anymore to give reasons for lynching me, he wants to lynch me because I'm not trying to find mafia? I started the vote against the last mafia we killed and gave a case against him during the night, how is that not trying to find mafia? I know I didn't post much yesterday, but dfs was mafia and he was getting killed, there was nothing else to say. As ahs noted, Eden just voted for dfs because he didn't have any other good target and didn't want to be an outlier. He said being an outlier was a mafia trait, so obviously he would try not to be one no matter what. As for the fact he voted against dravernor, I can easily see that as dravernor wanting to die anyways, she didn't seem to be into the game much, and they saw it as a perfect way for Eden to clear himself as town, it's no like dravernor was a roleblocker or something, she was a godfather in a game where there doesn't seem to be a cop. Eden defended the roleblocker, dfs, pretty hard, but did end up voting for him because he didn't have a choice if he wanted to look town. ##Vote: Eden1892 | ||
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Yell0w
120 Posts
As for that last post by Eden, why would mafia be scared of being wrong when they know if they're wrong or right? I think what you wanted to say is they want to make it look like they were right even when town mislynched or hit mafia, but the problem with your argument is you keep saying these things that you say mafia should do and then you do the exact opposite to make it seems like you're not mafia. It makes you look more scummy than the people who don't follow your silly rules and just act and talk without putting as much thoughts as you do behind all of your actions and words. Me, as a town, don't want to be wrong, because I want to win this game, you, as mafia, want to be "wrong" so you push town lynches, because you want to win the game. Also I really think there is only 1 mafia left, I think 4 mafias is too much, I really think they were three, so one left, and I think it's Eden. And bunnies just voted ahs, so I guess he's gonna get lynched, I'm not completely against it, I just think he acted way more towny than Eden in the last 2 days, I don't know why she thinks I'm scum suddenly though. I guess I don't get the argument against ahs anymore... I don't get it at all, I hope one of you reconsider because I really think Eden is mafia, I really wish people talked yesterday... | ||
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