On May 03 2014 14:12 27ninjabunnies wrote: So, I'm a bit drunk/tipsy atm, so I will post tomorrow when I sober up.
However I will post that tamburini is more than likely vigi here, and that he was actually roleblocked. Which means any claims should not be outed until you have a for sure mafia (i'm directing this at cop, if we have one)
I felt as if either amiko or I would most likely die, because of how active we have both been within forums. I think there is enough suspicion on me therefore amiko died over me. Therefore I would definitely look over amiko's reads, and see if anything comes of it. (Though this will be done tomorrow)
I still don't like Sqrt, and would lynch him today with no problem.
no drunk bunnies gives good and honest content! If you sober up you can start lying.........
Man I was expecting a bit more discussion from other people today, not sure what to think of anyone really. But Im leaning towards lynching Yell0w because Im a selfish prick and want to know why I got roleblocked. The most likely scenario is he is mafia.
Im just trying to understand in what world would mafia roleblock me if Yell0w is town and the only reason I can think of is for us to ML Yell0w and then probably myself the next day and possibly lose the game if there are 4 mafia in this game.
If he flips over mafia we get a lot of info and if he comes up town we get a lot of info from all the day 1 interactions as there is a lot of posts that were happening early game.
On May 04 2014 14:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, I can talk finally! I'll read through the last few pages and give yall something to go off of.
So here's what we are looking at at the moment.
If tamburini got roleblocked, there are two roleblockers in this game, possibly town and mafia. I doubt they would put two mafia rbs or two town rbs.
Now, I say this for this reason, I got roleblocked last night. I am neither confirming or denying I am an actual role, I'll leave that up for mafia to decide.
However, if town roleblocker roleblocked me, you are an idiot. If mafia roleblocked me, prepared to get wrecked.
Also, if town roleblocker blocked mtamburini, you still are an idiot. If mafia roleblocked him, well, still prepare to get wrecked.
Now talk over this while I read over the last few pages.
On May 04 2014 14:44 Eden1892 wrote: Yeah, bunnies was obviously covered by the jailer imo. If she was townread by a lot of people then of course the jailer would target her to keep her from getting nightkilled. That's what I would have done as the jailer, either her or Amiko.
On May 04 2014 14:44 Eden1892 wrote: Yeah, bunnies was obviously covered by the jailer imo. If she was townread by a lot of people then of course the jailer would target her to keep her from getting nightkilled. That's what I would have done as the jailer, either her or Amiko.
I dont get it please explain
I'm assuming the jailkeeper's roleblocking function is the same as a roleblocker's roleblocking function (that is, the target is notified regardless of her status as a power role or not).
Let's look at all of the possible roleblocking functions. - mafia roleblocker (MRB) - town roleblocker (TRB) - town jailkeeper (TJK)
There are therefore six possible role combinations: MRB/MRB MRB/TRB MRB/TJK TRB/TRB TRB/TJK TJK/TJK
Anything involving the town roleblocker targeting bunnies is folly to me, as well as anything involving duplicate pairs. Just an intuitive guess on this one but I don't think there are duplicates of any of those roles. So that leaves #3, #4, #5, and #7. From there, I don't believe that a town-aligned role would roleblock mtamburini, because we were counting on mtamburini shooting Yell0w to confirm his killing-role claim. Therefore we're in scenario #2 and bunnies was jailed.
Consequently this proves mtamburini was roleblocked by the mafia, which implies one of two things: 1) Yell0w is mafia and the mafia were protecting him from getting killed 2) Yell0w is town and the mafia were denying information about mtamburini while casting suspicion on Yell0w
Next step is to look and see who was throwing suspicion on tambo and Yell0w today. We know sqrt and Epishade were throwing suspicion on Yell0w, I suspect any other mafia members would have been pressing on tambo.
Thanks for the summary, now what do you think happened is most likely
On May 04 2014 15:26 Eden1892 wrote: Like I said, we're in scenario #2. The mafia roleblocked you to set up Yell0w for an easy mislynch, which Epishade has all too eagerly pushed. sqrt is running more general misdirection, prodding random people for inactivity while not developing any strong cases to show why people are actually mafia and not just inactive, and dravernor is lurking while he can get away with it.
I'm feeling good enough about you to say that you're vigilante instead of serial killer. Now validate my read and tell me what your theory of what's happening is. You look like you're trying to figure it out, I want to know what you're thinking.
I've got this really paranoid read that if we do not kill Yell0w today we should kill bunnies.
Here is why.
1) She pressured Yell0w in beginning and there was mixed emotions on it with a lot of people defending him and she retracted her vote on him. She said something like well whatever then I wont vote on him. She can easily take her vote off and seem towny for it, but also she can be mafia with yell0w and then pressure him a bit with some reasoning that I liked but a lot of people didnt. Im a little confused I think there is at least one between them.
Either bunnies is town and mafia defended Yell0w who is also mafia
OR
Trying to soft bus on Yell0w and see reactions from others and one of her partners steps in and defends Yell0w to gain some cred and distance themselves from bunnies.
OR
Yell0w is town Bunnies tried to get an easy ML on yell0w but no one was willing to go on it (but me afterwards) and her mafia partners distance away form her again.
2) It may be a stupid reason but she posted before she was drunk/tipsy then comes out the next day and says she got roleblocked. Why not say it in her first post? I mean OGI maybe but you do get notified when roleblocked so I dont think she does not check her inbox to see what message she got.
a) Shes mafia and didnt really care if she got roleblocked b) Shes mafia and is faking she got roleblocked after reading whats happened.
Shes already said shes not a role so she is probably gonna skate by today because of that but its something that is stuck in the back of my head and it gives me nightmares
On May 04 2014 14:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, I can talk finally! I'll read through the last few pages and give yall something to go off of.
So here's what we are looking at at the moment.
If tamburini got roleblocked, there are two roleblockers in this game, possibly town and mafia. I doubt they would put two mafia rbs or two town rbs.
Now, I say this for this reason, I got roleblocked last night. I am neither confirming or denying I am an actual role, I'll leave that up for mafia to decide.
However, if town roleblocker roleblocked me, you are an idiot. If mafia roleblocked me, prepared to get wrecked.
Also, if town roleblocker blocked mtamburini, you still are an idiot. If mafia roleblocked him, well, still prepare to get wrecked.
Now talk over this while I read over the last few pages.
@tamburini: To me the bolded part reads: "I am a role, but I don't want to say what", how do you read that as she is saying she is a role?
Im tired and am skimming through posts and reading what my paranoia is telling me is real, i thought she said she was not a role so I was on the train of thought that she would be a safe lynch in my eyes based on what I think of her and Yell0w
On May 04 2014 16:00 Eden1892 wrote: I appreciate that you're trying and I buy that you're town at this point but I think you're just being paranoid about bunnies. Occam's Razor ==> she's town and was jailed. I can't see why a roleblocker would target her, she wasn't doing anything to indicate power role from what I saw. And she was nearly universally townread at the end of D1 I think so it makes more sense that the jailer would try to save her.
What do you think about killing sqrt, Epishade or dravernor? Especially sqrt.
Im so tunneled on getting information for my self that I dont care about anyone else tbh. When Yell0ws alignment is flipped I think we will have the best chance of winning
On May 04 2014 16:00 Eden1892 wrote: I appreciate that you're trying and I buy that you're town at this point but I think you're just being paranoid about bunnies. Occam's Razor ==> she's town and was jailed. I can't see why a roleblocker would target her, she wasn't doing anything to indicate power role from what I saw. And she was nearly universally townread at the end of D1 I think so it makes more sense that the jailer would try to save her.
What do you think about killing sqrt, Epishade or dravernor? Especially sqrt.
Im so tunneled on getting information for my self that I dont care about anyone else tbh. When Yell0ws alignment is flipped I think we will have the best chance of winning
I will take a look into it in maybe 12 hours or so but its been crickets all day compared to yesterday. Did Akimo do a shit tonne of posts I havent looking at his filter.
Something I remember from sqrt is that he said he wanted to kill Yell0w but never voted on him in the early parts of the game where I was paying attention
On May 04 2014 17:07 Eden1892 wrote: bunnies: What is your opinion on my case on sqrt and Epishade?
Ummmm, let me read up on that and get back to you. I'm at a friends' house, so I'm just checking in. Hopefully I'll have one big post for all of you tomorrow.
Also, someone CC me, I dare you. Watch me wreck you into the ground.
On May 04 2014 16:58 27ninjabunnies wrote: Alright, are you seriously getting paranoid on me now?!
Come on, get real.
So I do admit, I haven't been posting as much today due to just leaving my campus, and I'm headed home tomorrow So I'll definitely be able to post more.
And lynching me because I went on yell0w, got pretty GREAT reads, enough too possibly get roleblocked by mafia.
COME ON TAMBURINI!
GET REAL.
Anyway, my point is, I didn't think to check my pms because I thought I'd either die in the night, or someone would come out the next day and push on me to make meseem scummy...
If I was mafia, I'd do a WAY better play than this, and I wouldn't have been defending you tamburini, if you are actual vigi. You can read me pretty well, and I'd try to get you out of the game asap.
I came out with the roleblock claim as soon as I realized I was blocked. And I did it for the reason that tamburini had also claimed he was roleblocked. THIS IS INFORMATION TOWN NEEDS. Because I didn't realize the actual role of the jailer, I didn't know it could be a possible jailer scenerio on me, and for that I am sorry. But if there are 2 roleblockers, 1 for mafia, 1 for town, this is information we could use to our advantage.
So, from just my claim we already know one thing, that is if tamburini is truly vig, and was roleblocked.
One scenerio is that if tamburini IS vigi, and he was roleblocked, and I was roleblocked, too,(which I was) that means I cannot be a roleblocker. So you have that information, now run wild with it.
Well if you compare this bolded part with the roles listed in the game on page 1, then....I'll let you fill in the rest.
On May 04 2014 17:45 mtamburini wrote: Oh cause if she is roleblocker she couldnt have roleblocked me.
That doesnt mean there is not 3 roleblokers this game!
perhaps i am taking things for granted, but because this is listed as a "newbie game" and there are so few people; I am really trying not to get into highly complex scenarios where there are multiples of the same role. Maybe I should be, but I am not.
If we follow with what eden said earlier, that you were MRB'd and bunnies was TJK'd. You are vigi, bunnies is not the JK because she got JK'd, she says she isn't the roleblocker; so if I am going simple, I arrive at 1 role.
Ok so she got Jailed maybe and whatever, why cant she just be a helix worshiper? She doesnt have to be a role. She did say something along the lines of I got roleblocked but I wont say if I was a role or not to keep mafia guessing (thats when my paranoia started kicking in more than ever, had small tiny thing in back of my head about bunnies but it seemed way to crazy to be true bu its creeping up on me.)
EPT
