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27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 02 2014 00:49 GMT
#701
So I just finished my last college final, and currently have to pack up my dorm room, so I probably won't be able to post for the next couple of hours. But if you have any questions for me, go ahead and address me. I'll look through everything and make one big post.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 00:51 GMT
#702
On May 02 2014 09:35 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 09:00 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Shoot, didn't put down the point that epishade brought up in the post. Here it is:
On April 30 2014 15:29 Epishade wrote:
So looking back through again, it seems I have missed something. I hadn't seen the vote count until after posting this but,

Sweetfrost actually voted for Sqrt while Tamburini voted for Yellow. That is quite strange to me, but Sweetfrost could have been keeping his vote on Sqrt early, just to switch on Yellow when more people jumped on Yellow so he doesn't look as scummy. His rationale for voting Sqrt was just that he thought either Bunny or Yellow was scum, but not both, so he didn't want to risk it and voted Sqrt. I don't think anybody else has any real fear of Bunny being actual scum right now, and her actions read town to me, so I think Sqrt was covering his tracks through his action here, ready to switch the vote out later when people started calling Yellow scum again.

This is after Epishade townreads sweetfrost.

I think you made a mistake, I didn't townread sweetfrost. I scumread him with my scumteam post, and then I made this post because his vote made little sense to me. It kind of contradicted with what I thought earlier about the scumteam consolidating votes, but then I found reasoning for it (in that he could switch later) and wanted to explain that as an appendage to my scumteam post.

Sweetfrost did little to actually defend himself. Lynching him gave us information to move forward. It sucks that he ended up being town, but I don't think voting for him was the "wrong" move given the information we had to work with at the time.

As for your claim that I was piggybacking on Bunny's vote on Sweetfrost:
I may have been doing that a bit. I generally want to see what other people think about my theories before I try pushing them. Other people may see things that I overlooked. If it turns out that they agree with them, I figure I didn't overlook anything and I'll continue with my theory. It might make me look scummy, but I think it'd look worse withholding this information if someone else found it later - but I did the same thing before with Tamburini. I made my scumteam post, then Meat agreed with me and voted for Tamburini, and then I voted for Tamburini as well. I believe my theories are correct when I come up with them (who wouldn't believe in their own theories?), but I always accept the possibility that I'm probably way off. I judge other people's acceptance of my theories as to how well my theories are and if I should continue with them or not.

Even if Bunny didn't end up voting for Sweetfrost though, I still would have. It was a toss-up between Tamburini and Sweetfrost for me, and I felt that Sweetfrost was a better pick between the two.

I did switch a lot too. One of those switches was on Eden, but that was only because I thought there could only be 1 potential vigi in the game. Eden cleared that up for me and I admit I read the rules wrong. And, hell, everyone was just arguing for and against Tamburini and Sweetfrost that I didn't know who to pick. Ended up going with Sweetfrost in the end obv, but I didn't make up my mind until a couple hours before the lynch.

Yes, I did make a mistake. Sorry.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 00:52 GMT
#703
On May 02 2014 09:40 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 09:37 ritoky wrote:
On May 02 2014 09:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I meant the question in a different way. You're thinking about what happened. I want to know where you're gonna go from here now, and how sweetfrost flipping town affected your thoughts.


You asked what I thought about a previous event...dunno how I was supposed to get to future implications from that.

Personally I am going to have to agree with Tamburini on this one. Talking too much at night is just plain bad imo. I have my interpretation of what happened and a path that I will personally push for if I am alive. Explaining that now I don't really see as the greatest idea. That, and results of night actions could change that pov.


Can you explain why this is for me, as a new player?

Well, generally you just don't.
Unless you're me, and you think you're gonna get killed N1, and you're vanilla town, so you have nothing to be afraid of.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 00:55 GMT
#704
@Bunnies, how was your finals?
How do you feel about being able to talk at night?
Okay, serious question now.
If you were vigi, who would you kill, other than yellow? Would it be a kill for information, or would it be a kill in an attempt to catch mafia?
Imaginary
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 02 2014 00:55 GMT
#705
On May 02 2014 09:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 09:40 Epishade wrote:
On May 02 2014 09:37 ritoky wrote:
On May 02 2014 09:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I meant the question in a different way. You're thinking about what happened. I want to know where you're gonna go from here now, and how sweetfrost flipping town affected your thoughts.


You asked what I thought about a previous event...dunno how I was supposed to get to future implications from that.

Personally I am going to have to agree with Tamburini on this one. Talking too much at night is just plain bad imo. I have my interpretation of what happened and a path that I will personally push for if I am alive. Explaining that now I don't really see as the greatest idea. That, and results of night actions could change that pov.


Can you explain why this is for me, as a new player?

Well, generally you just don't.
Unless you're me, and you think you're gonna get killed N1, and you're vanilla town, so you have nothing to be afraid of.

This too, in the first game I ever played and some subsequent ones after that there was no talking at all during night phases. It was kinda a stylistic/storytelling thing, that town sleeps at night and most people don't speak in their sleep.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 00:56 GMT
#706
Yeah, it was strange for me the first time I played here too.
Imaginary
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 02 2014 00:57 GMT
#707
Very well, I can wait until the next day to make my case if I'm still alive.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 00:59 GMT
#708
I would like everyone, and I mean everyone, to step it up a little and talk more. The more you talk, the more information we have, and the better chances we have of finding mafia. Particularly people who have 2 or less pages in their filters.
Thanks.
And this has been a Public Services Announcement by an imaginary number.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 00:59 GMT
#709
On May 02 2014 09:57 Epishade wrote:
Very well, I can wait until the next day to make my case if I'm still alive.

So you're pretty sure you're not gonna die N1. Is it because you're mafia?
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 01:01 GMT
#710
People who can wait until the next day are pretty sure they're not gonna die that night.
Imaginary
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 02 2014 01:05 GMT
#711
I think Mafia would want to kill Tamburini, right? They don't know if he's vigi or serial killer.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 01:05 GMT
#712
It's possible that they could just leave him be to make it look like he's serial killer, hope that he shoots wrongly, and push a mislynch on him D2.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 01:06 GMT
#713
That's what I would do, really.
Imaginary
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 02 2014 01:08 GMT
#714
On May 02 2014 09:55 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
@Bunnies, how was your finals?
How do you feel about being able to talk at night?
Okay, serious question now.
If you were vigi, who would you kill, other than yellow? Would it be a kill for information, or would it be a kill in an attempt to catch mafia?


Finals were good. glad they are over. It's amazing cause I get to study abroad next semester.

Talking at night isn't too bad. I like that we get to discuss the lynch, possible lynches for next day, etc.
Plus it gives the possible night kills a chance to get their reads in before they die.

If I were vigi, I would kill, other than yellow, possibly Epishade or Eden or Meat.
I can elaborate on these reads in a bit after I finish packing so I can quote things and give reasons as to why.

You always shoot to kill mafia, not find information, so I find your question very odd. You want as much town as possible, because multiple town is better than mafia overrunning town.

So I'd shoot whoever I find the most scummy. Because that would give more information that shooting a town.


I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 01:10 GMT
#715
I mean, someone might look really scummy, but there might be someone who's been acting strangely (like tambo). If I were vigi, I'd kill tambo. It would wield the most information.
Imaginary
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 02 2014 01:10 GMT
#716
Well, I really only have suspicions at this point of a few people. I don't think it would matter to bring them up at this point because the people that I have suspicions on are already suspected by others. If I die, other people will still think they're suspicious (I hope, they should) and question them a bit more.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 02 2014 01:12 GMT
#717
On May 02 2014 10:10 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I mean, someone might look really scummy, but there might be someone who's been acting strangely (like tambo). If I were vigi, I'd kill tambo. It would wield the most information.


I honestly don't think killing the vigi would reap the most information. For one, tamburini declared himself as leader, gave few reads, and then outed as vigi. You have nothing really to go off of what he had done besides the people pushing to lynch him.

Plus you reduce town KP, even though vigi is pretty much mafia sided anyway.

Sqrt, how many games of mafia have you played?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 01:14 GMT
#718
Well, if I were vigi, tambo is highly unlikely vigi.

As for the amount of mafia games, do you mean here on team liquid? This is my third team liquid game, and aside from that, I've only played irl mafia. I've played irl mafia for about 4 years now, I think.
Imaginary
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 02 2014 01:16 GMT
#719
On May 02 2014 10:14 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Well, if I were vigi, tambo is highly unlikely vigi.

As for the amount of mafia games, do you mean here on team liquid? This is my third team liquid game, and aside from that, I've only played irl mafia. I've played irl mafia for about 4 years now, I think.


Okay, so you know a bit about mafia.

True, if you were vigi, tambo would highly unlikely be vigi, unless the host decided to put two vigis in (which to me seems a little op).

But why bring this point up sqrt?

What do you have to gain from this questioning, unless you are the actual vigi?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 02 2014 01:18 GMT
#720
Just curious to see who your kills would be.
Imaginary
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