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On April 29 2014 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 12:39 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:25 Eden1892 wrote:
@Epishade: What's with your 180 here? Seems abrupt to me. How did you go from "loaded question, aiming to paint Yellow in a scum-light, easy way to get rid of someone quickly with the first lynch" to "just digging for information" off the first post?
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##VOTE: Epishade I had it in my mind that Bunny was attempting to get an easy 1st day lynch by making a bad accusation against Yellow. When I said that her actions against Yellow gave me a scumread, you said you didn't agree with me there. Ritoky also suggested that Bunny was getting information from Yellow, instead of trying to kill Yellow with the lynch. I thought that Bunny was pushing too strongly for very little reason, and that looked like scum behavior to me. Ritoky said that she was probably digging for information, and I thought that that was actually a pretty justifiable reason for her behavior. I changed my opinion on Bunny mainly from Ritoky's post, but you also disagreeing with my scumread made me think I might be wrong about the situation. I certainly didn't want to continue forth with Bunny being a scumread when you guys had changed my mind about her aggressive posting. I appreciate you taking into consideration others' read on me. But I would like to ask something. Why do you assume Yell0w is an easy d1 lynch?
I thought that your attacks on him were spot on, if not for the fact that what he made at first was in jest. I was thinking others would disregard this fact and bandwagon onto the first scummy looking person to lynch day1.
Although this new post from Yellow I'll admit is kind of weird.
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EDBOP:
"I thought your attacks on him would have been spot on...etc
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On April 29 2014 12:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 12:47 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 12:39 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:25 Eden1892 wrote:
@Epishade: What's with your 180 here? Seems abrupt to me. How did you go from "loaded question, aiming to paint Yellow in a scum-light, easy way to get rid of someone quickly with the first lynch" to "just digging for information" off the first post?
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##VOTE: Epishade I had it in my mind that Bunny was attempting to get an easy 1st day lynch by making a bad accusation against Yellow. When I said that her actions against Yellow gave me a scumread, you said you didn't agree with me there. Ritoky also suggested that Bunny was getting information from Yellow, instead of trying to kill Yellow with the lynch. I thought that Bunny was pushing too strongly for very little reason, and that looked like scum behavior to me. Ritoky said that she was probably digging for information, and I thought that that was actually a pretty justifiable reason for her behavior. I changed my opinion on Bunny mainly from Ritoky's post, but you also disagreeing with my scumread made me think I might be wrong about the situation. I certainly didn't want to continue forth with Bunny being a scumread when you guys had changed my mind about her aggressive posting. I appreciate you taking into consideration others' read on me. But I would like to ask something. Why do you assume Yell0w is an easy d1 lynch? I thought that your attacks on him were spot on, if not for the fact that what he made at first was in jest. I was thinking others would disregard this fact and bandwagon onto the first scummy looking person to lynch day1. Although this new post from Yellow I'll admit is kind of weird. The fact that everyone is reading his response as "in jest" is weird to me. How can you tell? Because I couldn't. Also, no one BW that. Could be mafia not wanting to bw on their partner? Still doesnt explain why you think that he is an easy d1 lynch.
"So this sqrt guy sure seems to enjoy talking, so he's probably mafia."
You didn't think him just bluntly stating that sounded at all like a joke?
I know nobody BWed it, but I didn't think Yellow was scummy at all to begin with (before he made his recent post that is. Idk what to think of that). I didn't want to lose a potential town for making a joke IF people had started to bw against Yellow. I guess, as you say, you didn't think what he said was a joke. You thought he slipped up, while I thought you were attacking him because he was the first suitable person to attack based on his "slip-up." I wasn't sure how far you were willing to take it to make Yellow look bad (but as I now figure from seeing others reactions, you were probably just getting info), and I thought you were attacking him too strongly for nothing. That was what gave me my initial scumread on you. Then others convinced me otherwise that I was probably looking too hard into your attack and I don't have that scumread anymore.
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On April 29 2014 13:15 dravernor wrote:
Woah, this thread grew really quickly. 138 posts when I woke up.
Serious conversation going on in here, I'm still catching up. From what I gathered is that Yell0w seems to be a suspicious character, he then cleared his name and is now back on the scum list?
Sounds about right.
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On April 29 2014 13:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 13:07 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 12:47 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 12:39 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:25 Eden1892 wrote:
@Epishade: What's with your 180 here? Seems abrupt to me. How did you go from "loaded question, aiming to paint Yellow in a scum-light, easy way to get rid of someone quickly with the first lynch" to "just digging for information" off the first post?
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##VOTE: Epishade I had it in my mind that Bunny was attempting to get an easy 1st day lynch by making a bad accusation against Yellow. When I said that her actions against Yellow gave me a scumread, you said you didn't agree with me there. Ritoky also suggested that Bunny was getting information from Yellow, instead of trying to kill Yellow with the lynch. I thought that Bunny was pushing too strongly for very little reason, and that looked like scum behavior to me. Ritoky said that she was probably digging for information, and I thought that that was actually a pretty justifiable reason for her behavior. I changed my opinion on Bunny mainly from Ritoky's post, but you also disagreeing with my scumread made me think I might be wrong about the situation. I certainly didn't want to continue forth with Bunny being a scumread when you guys had changed my mind about her aggressive posting. I appreciate you taking into consideration others' read on me. But I would like to ask something. Why do you assume Yell0w is an easy d1 lynch? I thought that your attacks on him were spot on, if not for the fact that what he made at first was in jest. I was thinking others would disregard this fact and bandwagon onto the first scummy looking person to lynch day1. Although this new post from Yellow I'll admit is kind of weird. The fact that everyone is reading his response as "in jest" is weird to me. How can you tell? Because I couldn't. Also, no one BW that. Could be mafia not wanting to bw on their partner? Still doesnt explain why you think that he is an easy d1 lynch. "So this sqrt guy sure seems to enjoy talking, so he's probably mafia." You didn't think him just bluntly stating that sounded at all like a joke? I know nobody BWed it, but I didn't think Yellow was scummy at all to begin with (before he made his recent post that is. Idk what to think of that). I didn't want to lose a potential town for making a joke IF people had started to bw against Yellow. I guess, as you say, you didn't think what he said was a joke. You thought he slipped up, while I thought you were attacking him because he was the first suitable person to attack based on his "slip-up." I wasn't sure how far you were willing to take it to make Yellow look bad (but as I now figure from seeing others reactions, you were probably just getting info), and I thought you were attacking him too strongly for nothing. That was what gave me my initial scumread on you. Then others convinced me otherwise that I was probably looking too hard into your attack and I don't have that scumread anymore. Okay, I see what you are saying here. But no, I don't think him bluntly saying that is a joke. And here are my reasons. 1. I'd say it just to get a reaction. Like if I say, oh, tamburini is mafia for wanting to be leader (which I blatantly said, yet no one defended or deflected off of that like they did on yellow). I got more of a reaction to my questioning of Yellow than I did with tamburini, which is why I went further into questioning on yellow. 2. I wanted to see what Yellow thought to my questioning, to see if we had the same read on sqrt. Because here is why. There are two types of mafia imo: The ones who lurk, and the mafia who tend to want to be the first to talk or talk the most. I wanted to see what Yellow read into Sqrt, as if he was thought Sqrt was the latter mafia.
I guess we just had different interpretations of what he said, leading us to have different conclusions over how to handle it. I thought it was a clear joke and nothing more, but since you saw differently you attacked him. I didn't think the attack was warranted and that's when I got my initial scumread on you etc. I've posted my reasoning before.
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On April 29 2014 13:52 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 13:44 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 13:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 13:07 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 12:47 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 12:39 Epishade wrote:On April 29 2014 12:25 Eden1892 wrote:
@Epishade: What's with your 180 here? Seems abrupt to me. How did you go from "loaded question, aiming to paint Yellow in a scum-light, easy way to get rid of someone quickly with the first lynch" to "just digging for information" off the first post?
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##VOTE: Epishade I had it in my mind that Bunny was attempting to get an easy 1st day lynch by making a bad accusation against Yellow. When I said that her actions against Yellow gave me a scumread, you said you didn't agree with me there. Ritoky also suggested that Bunny was getting information from Yellow, instead of trying to kill Yellow with the lynch. I thought that Bunny was pushing too strongly for very little reason, and that looked like scum behavior to me. Ritoky said that she was probably digging for information, and I thought that that was actually a pretty justifiable reason for her behavior. I changed my opinion on Bunny mainly from Ritoky's post, but you also disagreeing with my scumread made me think I might be wrong about the situation. I certainly didn't want to continue forth with Bunny being a scumread when you guys had changed my mind about her aggressive posting. I appreciate you taking into consideration others' read on me. But I would like to ask something. Why do you assume Yell0w is an easy d1 lynch? I thought that your attacks on him were spot on, if not for the fact that what he made at first was in jest. I was thinking others would disregard this fact and bandwagon onto the first scummy looking person to lynch day1. Although this new post from Yellow I'll admit is kind of weird. The fact that everyone is reading his response as "in jest" is weird to me. How can you tell? Because I couldn't. Also, no one BW that. Could be mafia not wanting to bw on their partner? Still doesnt explain why you think that he is an easy d1 lynch. "So this sqrt guy sure seems to enjoy talking, so he's probably mafia." You didn't think him just bluntly stating that sounded at all like a joke? I know nobody BWed it, but I didn't think Yellow was scummy at all to begin with (before he made his recent post that is. Idk what to think of that). I didn't want to lose a potential town for making a joke IF people had started to bw against Yellow. I guess, as you say, you didn't think what he said was a joke. You thought he slipped up, while I thought you were attacking him because he was the first suitable person to attack based on his "slip-up." I wasn't sure how far you were willing to take it to make Yellow look bad (but as I now figure from seeing others reactions, you were probably just getting info), and I thought you were attacking him too strongly for nothing. That was what gave me my initial scumread on you. Then others convinced me otherwise that I was probably looking too hard into your attack and I don't have that scumread anymore. Okay, I see what you are saying here. But no, I don't think him bluntly saying that is a joke. And here are my reasons. 1. I'd say it just to get a reaction. Like if I say, oh, tamburini is mafia for wanting to be leader (which I blatantly said, yet no one defended or deflected off of that like they did on yellow). I got more of a reaction to my questioning of Yellow than I did with tamburini, which is why I went further into questioning on yellow. 2. I wanted to see what Yellow thought to my questioning, to see if we had the same read on sqrt. Because here is why. There are two types of mafia imo: The ones who lurk, and the mafia who tend to want to be the first to talk or talk the most. I wanted to see what Yellow read into Sqrt, as if he was thought Sqrt was the latter mafia. I guess we just had different interpretations of what he said, leading us to have different conclusions over how to handle it. I thought it was a clear joke and nothing more, but since you saw differently you attacked him. I didn't think the attack was warranted and that's when I got my initial scumread on you etc. I've posted my reasoning before. See, that makes sense to me; but what doesn't make sense to me about your reaction is that you wanted the entire convo to simply go away/end. Which is why I read you as deflecting off of yell0w. If what you're saying is true, and you had a different view of the situation that led you to a scum read on bunnies; then why didn't you push hard back on bunnies? To me you read less so as accusatory toward bunnies and moreso as let's stop talking about this. It also seemed to me at the time, that you were setting yourself up in a bit of the "I told you so" position if yell0w ended up being a mislynch, which I also didn't like. But you have come around a bit for me, the openness in your change of opinion bought you back some credit for me, but I am still now sold on you as town, especially if yell0w appears any more mafia than he currently does when he comes back and starts typing.
I had a scum read on Bunny, but I didn't want to push it too hard lest I be the only person that thought that way. I wasn't sure whether my read on her was good or not, so I didn't want to push it. Bunny seemed a little scummy to me then, but only because we had a different understanding of the situation. I wanted to hear what other people thought, then you and Eden convinced me that Bunny may have other motives and I changed my opinion.
Also, just to be clear, is that a typo where you say "but I am still now sold on you as town,"? Did you mean to say "not" instead?
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On April 29 2014 14:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@Epishade: Do I really have to state all the reasons again?!
okay, short version.
1. He called someone mafia (sqrt) because he talked a lot, when I questioned his read, he said he didn't think him talking a lot was actually indicative of mafia. So I called him out on this as being contradictory. He then was like, "Oh you caught me, I'm mafia" So I voted him. For these reasons: 1. Ive played games where mafia has claimed being mafia, even voted themselves, and still got by and won as mafia. 2. This reaction was terrible, why not actually answer the question, which he ended up avoiding completely, until like 3 pages later. 3. I used this as to get reads from Yell0w and other people via the reactions to my pushing/questioning.
No, why did you feel the need to restate your reasoning? I understood your thought process after your last post. Idk why you felt like restating it again right here. My last post since then (spoilered below for reference) makes absolutely no contradictions against what you said before...
+ Show Spoiler +I had a scum read on Bunny, but I didn't want to push it too hard lest I be the only person that thought that way. I wasn't sure whether my read on her was good or not, so I didn't want to push it. Bunny seemed a little scummy to me then, but only because we had a different understanding of the situation. I wanted to hear what other people thought, then you and Eden convinced me that Bunny may have other motives and I changed my opinion.
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Ok, I'm getting some shut eye now. I'll have to see further developments in the afternoon when I wake up.
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Ok guys, I'm back for a bit before I need to get to class. I'll give some thoughts on current situation.
Sqrt: I'm glad he sees me, Bunny, and Eden as town, but I'm not convinced that Yellow has defended himself well enough to be suspect town. Dfs brought this up, and I agree with him. I wouldn't mind hearing why Sqrt has reason to believe Yellow is town. I believe Yellow is town, but not enough to clear him as town yet, like Sqrt has. No real current read yet.
Sweetfrost: 5 minutes after Dfs brings up that Sqrt clears Yellow as town, Sweetfrost restates what Dfs says without adding anything new from his own opinion. He does give his opinion on Bunny though by saying that he thinks Bunny is acting too hard as town and thinks it is making her look like a Scum trying to get town support. I disagree with this as I feel that Bunny was trying to get information. He also mentions her defending him when he got random voted by Eden as a possible support for his idea that Bunny was trying to gather town support, but I disagree with this too, as she didn't really defend him. This is all that she said:
On April 29 2014 12:27 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 12:15 Eden1892 wrote:
Right, then, time to get to work.
##VOTE: Sweetfrost I mean, I'm all for reaction testing, but can someone explain to me why this is okay to do, and what I did apparently is scummy as fuck? Especially when I havent seen sweetfrost talk once?
I don't see that as defending him at all. Eden casted his vote on Sweetfrost only because he hasn't spoken yet because he was in a different timezone. The vote didn't really mean anything, but Sweetfrost seemed to think he was defended by Bunny from the vote, or at least wanted people to think that was what happened. He also agrees on lynching Yellow without much provocation. I'm leaning scum on Sweetfrost for now. If Yellow does get lynched and flips scum, Sweetfrost clears town for me.
Yellow: Yellow's confusing. I defended him earlier because I thought Bunny was pushing too hard for a joke, and now he seems to be a target again. I'm a little confused as to why, though. Do people still think he should be lynched for his jokes? I'm not against his lynch just yet, I would just like to get more reasoning on why Yellow's a suspect again.
mtamburini: Bunny's been on Tamburini's case so far and I'm not satisfied with his replies to Bunny. He says that he's ready to lead town at the beginning of the game and then he doesn't mention it again. Don't you have to actively post and gain town support to be leader, and not just declare it at the beginning of the game? Regardless, that may have been a joke as well, so I won't get too far into that. What gets me is what he says here to Yellow as to why he wants to lynch Yellow.
On April 29 2014 20:10 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 15:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 15:11 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm not as sure on Yell0w as you guys are, but I'm not bothered by him being lynched.
@bunnies: Do you still think mtamburini is scummy? And if so, how do you feel about the fact that he's been pushing Yell0w harder than everyone else except for you? So here's my thing on tamburini. He comes out immediately and declares himself as town leader. Which gives me two scenerios: he is actually town and thinks he can actually lead this game, or he is mafia wanting to look townie. Hence why I put him on my scum list. So I was sorta working the Yell0w/Tamburini angle at the same time. Tamburini came out and defended himself by bringing up some ogi stuff from some epicmafia games. That's fine. Whatever. But no one read into this. Either people thought he is townie, or the thing on Yell0w was worth more reading into. Then, when I rescinded my vote off of Yell0w, for multiple reasons, Tamburini wanted to jump right back on him, for him asking how he should have responded to my question. I find this weird. Especially since Tamburini immediately voted. Hence why I asked tamburini to talk more on Yell0w for his reads. So as of now, im null on Tamburini until he answers my question, but I'm leaning more scummy for him. What question do you want asked, I gave my reasoning on why Yellow should be lynched today.. His sarcastic remarks (joking posts to some) are highly indicative of an experienced mafia not knowing what to say in that situation when caught in a contradiction as bunny pointed out. Next he asks someone how he shouldve responded to that to look more towny. As town people you dont care about acting towny because you are town, as mafia you care about acting towny so no one finds out your mafia.
I feel that, if you are town, but people think you are scum, you probably SHOULD care about acting townie. You don't want to get lynched as town because some people accused you of scum early on and it stuck. Yellow was wondering what a better response would have been, and I doubt that makes him look like scum at all. Tamburini really seems to want to lynch Yellow for reasons that I disagree with. He's my biggest scum lead right now.
Amiko: I think Amiko is town. Being new to mafia, as I'm sure many others here are, I feel that including that tip of having a secret message for Masons was pretty good and could only lead town in not having to lynch a Mason town if worse comes to worse. That's a great benefit for town so there isn't a miss lynch, and I don't feel that a mafia would have given out information like that, even so they could appear to be more townie by sharing that useful information. In a vet game, it probably wouldn't have mattered, but here it does.
Eden1882: I think Eden may be town, but Amiko brings up some points about Eden's interactions with Bunny that I would like to hear his response to.
Meat: Hasn't really said all that much other than for me not to interfere with Bunny's attacks. No read.
Dravernor: He has suspicions on me and Bunny for our interactions with each other, but more so on me for being defensive of Yellow early on. I've already explained my reasoning for doing so multiple times over, but I guess that hasn't persuaded him. In any case, I don't think he's scum. Neutral or slight town lead for me.
Bunny: Bunny's been the most active person in the thread so far and seems to be working for town. As I said, I misread her early on. Town for me.
mtamburini is my highest scumread right now. Bunny came up with him as an early scumread and I have to say I agree with it at this point.
I realize as I post this now, it took me so long to get all my thoughts in here that some of the information I planned to include has already been brought up. Primarily Sqrt's response about Yellow being town and Bunny's response to Sweetfrost about defending against his vote. But I'll leave this as is, took me about an hour to look through all the information I wanted to look through and type down my thoughts here.
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EBWOP: Some things I wanted to restate as I'm reading through my post now:
When I saw I'm not against Yellow's lynch just yet, I really want to hear why other people are pushing to lynch him. I don't seem any good reason to lynch him at this point to clear that up.
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EBWOP typo.
said* not saw.
see* not see.
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But alright guys, I'll be back in a few hours. Typing that used up more of my time than I thought.
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@Meat
Haven't heard from you all day and you barely posted yesterday. When you finally do post, it's just to tell us not to worry and that you've been reading up with all of us, just didn't have anything to add.
When you say you don't have anything to add, it sounds pretty scummy to me. Either you think that you can sit back and watch as us townies accuse the wrong people and lynch each other, or you don't want to help town by offering your thoughts on something. In either case, it doesn't look good. I'd suggest you post what you're currently thinking/scumreads or townreads. Lurking doesn't help town.
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Ok, so I've been looking through filters for a while now, and have come up with my likely scumteam candidates: Sweetfrost, Tamburini, and Ritoky. I'll give my reasoning.
The main thing that I can see between these three is that all of them are pushing really hard for Yellow's lynch, but also clearing each other at the same time.
Sweetfrost clears Ritoky as town and is trying to kill Yellow while attempting to discredit Bunny (and Sqrt) through these posts.
On April 30 2014 05:43 Sweetfrost wrote:
I can understand that it seems supicious that I don't want to voice an opinion on everyone in the game but since I'm not really sure what I think about the people I haven't talked about I feel it would be stupid to talk about them. I'm not going to give an state an opinion that I actually don't belive in.
But I'm willing to say that I consider Ritoky cleared as town, I like his analysis and they don't seem supicious and he's not jumping on any bandwagons and instead making good independet analysis. I agree with him that sqrt posts are very numerous, short and prodding at people to make analysis all the time. I believe that it's a sign of sqrt being scum.
So to sum it up.
Cleared : ritoky
Possible scum : Yellow/bunny and sqrt
On April 30 2014 04:57 Sweetfrost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 04:40 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Other than your yellow read, what are your reads, @sweetfrost? Well as I stated I suspect Bunny being scum for his efforts of trying very hard to build up a positive relationship with everyone. See my previous posts. As for the rest I'm very unsure and still don't want to give a public opinion on anyone since it would just be misleading, I don't have an opinion on the rest yet. So the only thing I'm willing to say right now is that I don't trust Bunny and Yellow.
Sweetfrost's plan was to undermine Bunny by saying that he thought she was trying too hard to play townie. I disagree and think Bunny was moving town in the right direction by engaging Yellow in that initial push.
Ritoky has been slightly accusatory against Sqrt, which is in line with Sweetfrost's opinion on Sqrt as well, as shown in the post above. They are slowly building up support against Sqrt to lynch him at a later time it seems to me.
On April 30 2014 05:26 ritoky wrote:
sqrt:I don't know if it is a stylistic thing or what, but there's something weird here. Lots of prods, short comments, and question asking, not much in the way of legwork. Combine that with the lack of seriousness early on and it just strikes me as all very odd. I don't read him as projecting town in any way; whereas most other people I can read town aspects to what they do and say.
My biggest problem with Ritoky though, is how quickly he changed his opinion on Yellow. He first decided that Yellow was likely not Scum when it seemed that pressure had been taken off Yellow. However, when Yellow was pressured again and started piggybacking off of what I said earlier, I think he saw an opportunity to bandwagon people against Yellow.
On April 29 2014 12:14 ritoky wrote:
I don't think yell0w is scum right now at all, he responded how he responded. It wasn't ideal, but he is sticking to his story saying it was a joke and I don't read him as hyper defensive about it. But you seem to be very pushy about this entire topic and very heavily deflecting for him. It could just be a legitimate read and belief that it is a joke, but you could also be mafia deflecting for another mafia or mafia trying to deflect/pocket a town who faced early pressure.
^Ritoky said this before Yellow got suspicion on him again. His wording here is what throws me off a bit. "I don't think Yellow is scum right now at all." He says this when pressure starts dropping off of yellow. Then, a little later on, Yellow is put back in the spotlight. Eden votes for Yellow, then Ritoky decides to join in by saying he isn't opposed to a lynch. I think he thought that, with other public support against Yellow outside of mafia, he'd be able to bandwagon against Yellow as the first lynch.
On April 30 2014 13:15 ritoky wrote:
@yellow: Regarding your opinion on mtamburini, it may just be a difference of opinion. But you were highly defensive and highly concerned with appearance. And I think it is very right that you are pressured heavily based on that fact.
Regarding what you said about sqrt, I could not agree more with "he did seem to be trying to start conversations when there wasn't one, I just don't think he was doing anything when there was one". And in my mind he just did it again. He said there is nothing going on when you and I were clearly interacting. He just seems to be waiting for everyone else to play the game so that he can pick the winning side. Again, maybe it's a stylistic thing cuz basically nothing he says seems town to me so far, but I just can't find any reason to put him on the good side of the tracks
Here is where he attempts to discredit Sqrt.
Tamburini has been desperately trying to kill Yellow way too hard.
On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 12:35 mtamburini wrote:On April 29 2014 12:20 Yell0w wrote:
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response? Wow... Just wow... Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake. ##VOTE: Yell0w
I mentioned this before and I'll say it again. This sounds like a flimsy excuse to me to lynch someone. Obviously town SHOULD care that they appear townie. You want to try everything possible to stop from getting lynched. Acting town AS A TOWNIE is the best way to accomplish that. He even continues his assault below.
On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 12:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:On April 29 2014 12:35 mtamburini wrote:On April 29 2014 12:20 Yell0w wrote:
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response? Wow... Just wow... Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake. ##VOTE: Yell0w I was reading that too, tamburini, however, as of now, yellow seems t be much off of the table. It could also be a rookie town mistake, wanting to know how it made him look scummy instead of townie. Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far.
I believe Tamburini was trying to get Bunny back on Yellow's case so that she might rally other people in support against Yellow so that he and his group would be able to vote for Yellow with the majority of Town.
On April 30 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 00:27 dfs wrote:
@sqrt, to be fair, I never actually called anyone anything, yet. I simply shared my points of interest at that time, and my thoughs on them.
What is interesting to me now is how you just cleared yell0w altogether? A person who is getting the most pressure so far. I like this fellow. Has not said much of anything but has picked up on something that no one else had really brought up (maybe not even thought about too) Can you give more details on yellow and/or anyone else?
When dfs comes into the thread and says something against Sqrt, Tamburini says "I like this fellow" and basically nothing else. Once again, he's working one small step at a time to get support against Sqrt with his team. Then he asks dfs what he thinks about Yellow and/or anyone else. He doesn't just say "Can you give more details on anyone?" He makes sure to include Yellow outside of that 'anyone else' so that dfs would be more likely to respond specifically on Yellow. Then, if dfs thought that Yellow was scum, Tamburini would have even more support to lynch Yellow.
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I believe that Eden had some good reads to come up with on Yellow (like that he wasn't actively scumhunting) that led to him arriving to vote at Yellow at his own discretion. I still wouldn't classify Eden as scum, but I do disagree with his vote.
tldr:
I think Tamburini, Ritoky, and Sweetfrost are all scum for a couple of factors. They all want to get rid of Yellow. They've shown distrust in me and Bunny, whom I would consider the most town player here so far. They have cleared each other at different times (Tamburini as an exception, hasn't cleared Ritoky and Sweetfrost, but has been cleared by them). And, they've all shown support against Sqrt as well, which I assume is to lynch him easier down the road.
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So looking back through again, it seems I have missed something. I hadn't seen the vote count until after posting this but,
Sweetfrost actually voted for Sqrt while Tamburini voted for Yellow. That is quite strange to me, but Sweetfrost could have been keeping his vote on Sqrt early, just to switch on Yellow when more people jumped on Yellow so he doesn't look as scummy. His rationale for voting Sqrt was just that he thought either Bunny or Yellow was scum, but not both, so he didn't want to risk it and voted Sqrt. I don't think anybody else has any real fear of Bunny being actual scum right now, and her actions read town to me, so I think Sqrt was covering his tracks through his action here, ready to switch the vote out later when people started calling Yellow scum again.
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For one, Sqrt is actively trying to draw out conversation with others. He's doing a lot of asking for people's reads on people and the situation.
Also, a lot of his posts follow logic and reasoning, such as some I'll throw below.
On April 30 2014 04:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I don't like the fact that yellow is under suspicion. I don't think he's mafia. Joking and sarcasm is perfectly fine in the early stages of the game. That post was from the early stages of the game. I don't think this warrants a case against yellow. The only fault I see so far is that he should be contributing a bit more. Which can also be said for a lot of others.
I agree just about completely here. Yellow was under suspicion for making jokes, which was why I ended up defending him early on. Sqrt comes up with the same conclusion as I do, that the suspicion wasn't warranted.
On April 30 2014 02:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
EBWOP *Eden was clared because he's been asking good questions. However, he's a bit more low tone than last game, so I think I need to keep an eye on him.
I agree with this too. I read through that last game as it was running and Eden got shot day1 as town because of how well he was doing. He seems to have taken a step back this game, but is still contributing, just not as much. It's something to take notice of.
On April 30 2014 02:36 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Amiko has been talking, and his posts make me think that he's seriously trying to figure this one out. Cleared. @dfs, This post, his first post, makes me think that he's mafia. Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 16:11 dfs wrote:
Everybody is on my scum list untill proven otherwise, the day is still young.
Everyone is mafia, according to him, until proven otherwise. This is the small point that made me suspicious. Generally, you think people are town until proven mafia. I've cleared yellow as town, but at the bottom of the scale. Why? It's because I have greater suspicions on other people, and those other people are pushing yellow.Eden was cleared because he's been asking good questions. He's a bit more low tone than last game, so I think I need to keep an I on him.
I have the same suspicions as Sqrt. I believe that the people pushing for Yellow's lynch are more suspicious than Yellow himself.
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On April 30 2014 15:42 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote:On April 30 2014 00:27 dfs wrote:
@sqrt, to be fair, I never actually called anyone anything, yet. I simply shared my points of interest at that time, and my thoughs on them.
What is interesting to me now is how you just cleared yell0w altogether? A person who is getting the most pressure so far. I like this fellow. Has not said much of anything but has picked up on something that no one else had really brought up (maybe not even thought about too) Can you give more details on yellow and/or anyone else? It is way tooo early in a mafia game to start trying to pocket someone this hard. Literally at least half of his posts are bunny lets do this, bunny lets do that. She ain't your gf bro. Also I like how in the last post i quoted, dfs points that yellow has been cleared and tamburini asks for details on yellow first and mentions other people as an after thought.
I literally just brought that up in my big post 40 minutes ago or so.
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I guess I just thought it was funny that you noticed the same minor detail in word choice that I did.
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Alright, well, it's 3 AM over here now, so I'm getting off. I'll have to see what everyone thinks later.
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