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On April 17 2014 10:20 Vivax wrote:
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PoE mostly and the posts or playstyle which didn't make me add them to the townie list.
Also posted some stuff on OTW previously, I think you missed that cause it would answer half of your question.

As for the other half, OmniEulogy, my conclusion is right above this post. You're encouraged to post your opinion, especially since you're not cleared in my book and the "Oh look Vivax is ignoring me, hmmm, interesting" doesn't make you look much better. Do you think I could be scum?

Also answer me this: The reason you think OTW could be scum is that his case on thrawn looks bad as far as I can gain from your filter. How do you discern if it's a bad townie making it or scum? Cause that case alone isn't enough of an argument, so how did you conclude scum? My arguments for him being possible scum were different.

On April 17 2014 10:29 Vivax wrote:


He's saying he has no scumreads, do you mean that?



He thought at some point, that your actions make you scummy. Now I ask you, how do you think the mafia would react if a guy they previously called out is opposed to their lynch?

Would they still call him scum?

On April 17 2014 10:25 kushm4sta wrote:
My compiled cavalinho case:



cavalinho is looking scummiest to me right now.
He is continuing to scumread FT for writing expansive thoughts on why he thinks djangulingu is null. instead of just saying null. Terrible reason for scum reading someone.

I can see why FT could be considered scummy for just writing this out of no where, but as an answer to a question, it ceases to be scummy.


FT "doesn't actually thing anything." That is not true and it's such a scummy way to call someone scummy.

i mean looking cavalinho's reasoning for why FT is scum. He is repeating the same generic shit over and over again.






plus why the fuck is cavalinho so focused on FT when mberg also opened with a post where he doesn't discuss reads at all.


plus this looks nothing like his town game here.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=Cavalinho&page=2

On April 17 2014 10:32 OmniEulogy wrote:
All I can say Vivax is that Djag was figured out at that point for everything he had said and then I went to sleep and he made more posts. What can ya do, people continue to talk even when you're not there.

On April 17 2014 10:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
I cant read it as a third party observer because I know I'm town and I know what my motivations have been behind all those posts. So I'm already biased to townread myself. But I'll pretend I don't know that,

Do I think his case is stupid? Yes. But it's the kind of case that I'm used to seeing posted whenever I play the spammy and loose town style that I'm playing this game. I know that I jump around a lot and some people are hardwired to think that's scummy. Back when I first started playing I wouls always get mislynched because of cases like the one OTW made, people accused me of having too many targets, of opputunistic voting, of having incoherent reads and chaning my mind too often, all that kind of stuff.

The problem is that your super strong townread on me seems to be the only reason you scumread OTW. And that indicates that you're scum, making an easy case on OTW because you know that I'm town so it's easy for you to shit all over OTW's case.

On April 17 2014 10:38 FirmTofu wrote:

Why would scum me defend you? If I were scum, I would avoid defending people because of this exact thought process that townies generally have. Also, I wouldn't want to encourage confirmed townies. If I was scum(assuming you are town), I'd be doing my best to make sure you don't become "confirmed" town.

I also never made a case on OTW, I just voted him and discredited his case on you.

On April 17 2014 10:41 thrawn2112 wrote:


You didn't explicity defend me. In fact you never really stated that I was town. Me being town was more of an assumption you seemed to make. It's not like you were trying to stick up for me or anything, your main agenda with that post was to express that you thought OTW's case against me was scummy.

Anyways, this conversation is getting a bit repetitive, I think it'd be more useful for you to figure out who you want to lynch.

On April 17 2014 10:37 Vivax wrote:


If you were town you would have to have some suspects. Why aren't you mentioning thrawn after your previous points on him if not cause he's defending you right now?

Also what do you mean by figured out? You mean you were so sure he was scum and he became townie to you cause of his later posts? If so, you should be able to elaborate on the posts that changed your mind and the reasons for it. If so, you should have found out more stuff about Djag, asked him stuff. All I can see is that you blamed him for saying he never played scum and the meta thingy.

On April 17 2014 09:39 OmniEulogy wrote:
seriously though this game is god damn confusing right now. I can't tell if the people I'm checking off as town are actually town or if I'm just bad at judging this shit.

On April 17 2014 10:43 OmniEulogy wrote:


Considering I've subbed in for scum before I did almost exactly what you've done so far and it was quite easy I might add.

On April 17 2014 10:44 thrawn2112 wrote:


what are you talking about?

On April 17 2014 10:47 OmniEulogy wrote:


I'm just comparing my scum game to how vivax is playing right now as a replacement and how they tend to lineup pretty well, as a response to me not thinking anybody is scum

That being said, the points Eden brings up against LT make a whole lot of sense. LT's read on me is bosh. He says I'm practically confirmed mafia because I wanted someone to clarify something before I answered their question...What is that? Is that even a thing? I don't think that Val has really done enough to warrant being cleared as town, either. (Though Robik has done the same, and I generally think Robik comes up with pretty solid reads.) LT is scummy, and not just because he thinks I'm scum (which, considering the way this thread is going, is really saying something).

On April 16 2014 13:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Looking through FT's filter, I see a big post that discredits Omni without actually coming to any conclusion aside from trying to make him look bad, a long post on skab that boils down to "he claimed vig, so he's probably town," and a big post that doesn't go anywhere.

I think it's really easy to look like you're doing something in a game like this, where there's little content and big posts look good, but even a quick glance reveals that he isn't actually doing anything in his posts. The only exception is his sole townread which is needlessly long and has already been discussed by other players.

##Vote FirmTofu

Thrawn's filter is shitty too, but it's shitty in a blatant way rather than a way where he looks like he's doing something but he isn't. I'd like to hear more from him as well.