Catastrophe Mafia

On April 03 2014 09:15 IAmRobik wrote:

Do you believe in time travel Joey?

On April 03 2014 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:

We gonna have a problem, meow?

To the rest of you who are not whoever-this-guy-is, I have....things to give away tonight.

Any takers?

On April 03 2014 09:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

whoopsies. lol

On April 03 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:

I disagree. So the actual reads are not the problem here?

On April 03 2014 11:51 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't think there is no reason to post early gut reads. It is much more useful than proposing a random lynch for example.

On April 03 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:

Troll or serious?

On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now.

On April 03 2014 12:04 Oatsmaster wrote:

I dunno dude, dandel put in quite a lot of effort quoting everyone and a line of text. Took him like 15 minutes at least.

On April 03 2014 12:04 justanothertownie wrote:

Seriously dude? You are contradicting yourself in the first part of your post... if I give a random read then that is more than most people here did. Maybe you should explain why my reasoning is bad instead of just throwing shit. I don't even know what you are talking about here. I never said WoS and Robik opened the same way?!

On April 03 2014 12:19 justanothertownie wrote:

I did ask because I did not follow the WoS read while I thought I understood the robik read. Like I already said. Maybe you should read what I say. I also never said that I like the smiley read I just know that it is a thing for them.
Why is it scummy for me to only question one of rayns reads? Explain.

On April 03 2014 12:22 justanothertownie wrote:

I won't explain it a third time.
So now it is weird? I swear a few minutes ago it was scummy.

On April 03 2014 12:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Sorry didn't mean to hit post there...
Maybe it's because it is really late and I am tired but I don't understand what you are saying at all. You think I ask for only one read to bait someone else into giving a wrong read on what exactly? Seems pretty stupid to me.

On April 03 2014 12:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, please explain to me exactly how this scenario you invented works because I honestly don't understand what you are saying joey.

On April 03 2014 12:50 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then.

On April 04 2014 20:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv forgive me if I don't take your word for it But if some others can verify I'll definitely take it into account. I think you're wrong on Robik. So I will say I disagree strongly with you and encourage you to reread my case.


@Killing, Paperscraps (Maybe VE?) you guys play with Robik do you agree with my case? Also paper lots of heat on you atm why did you null read defend me?

On April 05 2014 01:09 marvellosity wrote:

Not in the slightest.

On April 05 2014 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
the case on Paper has nothing to do with him writing backwards.

All I sought to establish with that is that it was alignment-neutral.

On April 05 2014 01:21 kitaman27 wrote:


Who is mafia trying to get an easy lynch?

On April 05 2014 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
iamp is town. So if you can try to prove to me poofter is mafia, then I'm listening.

On April 04 2014 21:18 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv oh snap! Did I post between those?

On April 04 2014 20:41 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv not sure I trust you tbh. I read robik as mafia and you were defending him pretty hard during the battle that was going on. Are you the type of player that would hard defend a scummate like that?

more importantly do other people think that Marv and Robik are likely to be connected as scummates, I know nothing of marv's play so outside input is encouraged. (even if you disagree with me that robik is scum would marv d-up hard day with a teammate?)

On April 04 2014 21:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv we will agree to disagree. Do you think I'm more scum or town based on what you've seen? You seem quite confident on Robik and I can't imagine you've played too much with him, so what about me?

On April 05 2014 01:35 marvellosity wrote:

You do realise he claimed that he came across an item that required him to write backwards, right? So at the very least he would be lying in order to write backwards?

On April 05 2014 02:40 marvellosity wrote:
too obvious.

On April 05 2014 02:44 marvellosity wrote:

neigh

On April 05 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:

So?

On April 05 2014 02:46 Keirathi wrote:

There are 4 horses. And (I think?) they are all claimed. Are they all scum?

On April 05 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Exactly.

On April 05 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:

I bolded what I was responding to. We know nothing about it so why would you assume VA is scum by default?

On April 04 2014 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
My role is anti-town to clarify. and narcissistic. I wasn't going to get night killed anyway so I dont see any harm in revealing this

On April 05 2014 04:17 VisceraEyes wrote:

Because frankly the QT stuff isn't strong enough evidence to convince the whole thread for a lynch. It's a subjective thing that only I (and the other members of the QT) know about, and thus, isn't going to be very convincing to everyone else. I'm still suspicious of VA, but I can let him live if you guys don't think what I've brought is enough for a lynch. Hell if he's town, that just gives him a chance to prove it, and if he's scum he'll probably just keep lurking making himself a more attractive target to the rest of town. *shrug*

On April 05 2014 04:54 Paperscraps wrote:
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On April 05 2014 04:54 Paperscraps wrote:
.bad so is case the when Especially .now stop will I think I .boring so is yourself defending Bleh .inconsistent be cannot players Town .mafia be must I that is this for reason possible only The .Tehpoofter on changed read my Oh

On April 05 2014 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:


We can lynch any of these people.
3. Holyflare
11. kitaman27
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
21. Paperscraps
23. Foolishness
26. yamato77
30. Blazinghand

On April 05 2014 07:45 Paperscraps wrote:
.Amiko voted ninja I

On April 05 2014 07:49 IAmRobik wrote:

There's no lynch if we don't have 15 votes? Why wouldn't it just go to the highest target? That's so dumb/bad/blah/etc. I can't imagine us lynching correctly then

On April 04 2014 08:24 Amiko wrote:
Also, thoughts on paperscraps?



It's not a case but I think it's a fair reason to disbelieve his reverse-curse writing.

On April 05 2014 02:28 Amiko wrote:

Paperscraps

I posted some comments about paperscraps earlier. I also like marv's point. Here's another thing which I think makes him a good lynch:

First, paper is asking blazinghand to be more honest.

Later, he seems to want to back off Blazinghand.


He could be just reading Blazing as a third party (encouraging him to reveal his goals) particularly given his intervening post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=79#1574).

On April 05 2014 08:46 Holyflare wrote:


You know this is silly. Counter wagon gumshoe only has 6 votes, this won't go through.

On April 05 2014 08:51 WaveofShadow wrote:

What percentage?

On April 05 2014 08:52 Amiko wrote:
If you're set that's fine, but I'm glad to keep talking.

@people in thread
If I understand it, the main reason you are pushing on me is that I voted for paperscraps. Do you think the way that I voted for paperscraps reflects an intent to gather information or to push a lynch?

On April 05 2014 08:45 marvellosity wrote:
are you claiming 3p or not Amiko?

On April 05 2014 08:45 marvellosity wrote:
yes/no or you get lynched

On April 06 2014 03:42 Tehpoofter wrote:



@killing no thanks. Secondly you want to lynch Amiko cause hes 3p? Do you have a scum read you'd like to lynch?

On April 06 2014 07:47 yamato77 wrote:

Honestly this is the worst vote in existence.

On April 06 2014 07:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Is poofter bad?
I get that newbie vibe from him.
Which according to my usual thoughts/reads means we should lynch this fucking guy with fire.

On April 06 2014 07:57 IAmRobik wrote:

We can't have personal attacks like this in this game! 100% unacceptable

On April 06 2014 08:34 Tehpoofter wrote:


I'm new to forums but have played a lot of video mafia (I think I've addressed that before) first game this big. I'm better than Joey and Robik at video mafia but they maybe better than me at forum same for paperscraps.

I played in Titanic recently and was town if you want to read that filter.

My question is you're getting the newbie vibe so newbie=lynch cause mafia? Just clarifying a bit.

On April 06 2014 08:56 Tehpoofter wrote:



I had suspicions of paperscraps before then as noted in my previous post I had him listed as scummy for other reasons and if you see my read on marv it was an associative read for defending robik nothing really he had done. I don't see how that leap of thought is so scummy.

I am curious did you see my post about how I started to evolve on robik?

On April 06 2014 11:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
I would rather one of them claimes the name of the other one.

First one to do it is confirmed town for guarding device.

go

On April 06 2014 11:28 Paperscraps wrote:
This game just became ten times less fun, now that Foolishness was killed.

P.S. I can talk normal again.

P.S.S. I will be the hero this town needs today.

On April 07 2014 01:33 syllogism wrote:
Anyway, I tracked Amiko to Kita. He is mafia or lying for unknown reasons about his role.

On April 05 2014 09:08 Amiko wrote:


Modified survivor. My night action can be learning if a player has an item and taking it, if possible. I have a one shot that disables all item use and swaps items among players (1 for 1). I can protect myself at night (and no one else).

About the robik comment, I thought he was likely 3p and I figured he would notice that and assume I am also 3p from it, then send me something back to joint. But I don't blame him for giving it thread attention, it probably was a liability.

On April 07 2014 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role PM from the most recent Aperture:


Now obviously the resurrecting and whatnot is directly related to wincon, but the antivotes part is a bit of a stetch. On top of that I think VE's (he was Alphonse) ability was even less 'survivor-oriented.'

On April 07 2014 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:

The only thing that indicates so for me is that all the horses refuse to play this game somehow.

On April 07 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm just busy. Hell weekend. What is scummy about my play? I have a green check on Djo too unless you disbelieve my claim...which is pretty much self confirmable. Think hard before pursuing aVE day Joey

On April 05 2014 11:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Town-Heroes I can offer protection from even the most fatal of injuries!

Device Enthusiasts I can offer products of great utility in your endeavors!

Machines I can offer upgrades!

Something for everyone* and financing plans are available!

*Scum I aint got nothing for you, maybe WoS is giving away some shiny bauble you can amuse yourself with.

On April 07 2014 02:36 syllogism wrote:

You agree with koshi on not killing the person who claims third party and was tracked to a kill?

On April 07 2014 03:28 syllogism wrote:
Amiko claims that he visited paperscraps and based on the PM wording he hasn't even read the thread, including my tracker claim.

##vote Amiko

On April 07 2014 06:07 yamato77 wrote:
Syllo and iamp would be my choices, to be honest.

On April 07 2014 06:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Plz I'll . just. Need.mor3. [I] time[I)

On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:

did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money.

On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!

On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand

On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?

On April 08 2014 05:32 Killing wrote:
If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them.
If they don't, then I want to lynch them.



I'm pretty good with that list except:

1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have.
2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out.
3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him.
4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages.
5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase.

Rest is coool

On April 08 2014 05:39 austinmcc wrote:
This is the "It's scummy to do scummy things as scum, so scum wouldn't do scummy things" argument.

It is usually a mafia argument, and often mafia defending mafia

On April 08 2014 05:47 austinmcc wrote:
It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head.

(1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town.

(2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts.

(3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying

• I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
• I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P

(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood.

The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had.


Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip.

On April 08 2014 09:29 austinmcc wrote:
That thing was part of VA's 3P role in Aperture 2



Either a different role here OR someone is getting kilt OR some serious shennanies are occurring.

On April 08 2014 09:24 Oatsmaster wrote:

Oo more shennaies.

On April 08 2014 09:55 Holyflare wrote:
oats is exploding though, so is ve

On April 08 2014 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
you want a bomb on your head killing?

On April 08 2014 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
you have 2 minutes to convince me not to

On April 08 2014 09:59 Holyflare wrote:


i dunno what chaos counter does, why can't town like chaos?

On April 08 2014 10:12 geript wrote:
Hey Keirathi I want to sheep you all game. Who do you trust the least right now?

On April 08 2014 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Just a heads up.

I am immune to NK's tonight. I cannot be roleblocked with this item I was given too. Tomorrow will be cell mafia, every person is split into groups of 3 people and each group contains 1 mafia.

GL scum. You lose.

On April 08 2014 10:17 Koshi wrote:
Stupid syllo v2 nuke killed yamato.
WoW I am mildly sad even 2 scummers died. Like... I also forgot about nuke.... but 2-2???
If there are 7 scummers in start this is ridiculous. Too many 3p as well that dont interfefe wigh scum wincon??? Some1 should count.

Dnu why I am still awake.

On April 08 2014 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
Paraphrasing:

On April 08 2014 10:40 Holyflare wrote:

who knows?

On April 09 2014 01:25 sandroba wrote:
And btw do you happen to be a dragon?

On April 09 2014 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:

Dragon found.

On April 09 2014 01:52 sandroba wrote:
@killing There are some hints of it in my role. Do you happen to be one?

On April 09 2014 01:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
Are dragons bad?

anyway, killing had the chrono trigger time stuff, so i doubt he's a dragoon.

On April 09 2014 04:32 austinmcc wrote:
Friendly Neighborhood Bird God Inquiry,

Everyone who super loves and believes this 100%, please raise your hand:I believe most Grey roles to be balanced, especially in games like this with multiple counters, and apparently insanity and dragons and whatnot. I think, on the whole, Grey is unlikely to make a "Chaos counter to 0" role in this game, especially where the chaos counter is apparently bad for town if it gets high. It's there to loom and be bad and to make us use roles that influence the chaos counter in a certain way.

It's not there for some townie to go "LOL ZERO NOW" and wipe out any decision making. At least, that's my personal opinion.

heck, I'm more inclined to believe that, if this were a townie role, it would be balanced out by something BAD. Giving up a power, doing something negative, whatever, because things that are very good for town, stuck on townies, are often balanced. Look at all the "you have this passive and this active, when you activate the active your passive is gone" roles that have already flipped. Based on what I know, there are few "This is good and always good and will only do good things ever, enjoy!" roles, especially of the sort that are affecting counters.

But I also don't necessarily believe it's a townie role, still think Killing is unlikely to be blue or green, and is more likely to be red. The bad kind of red.


Geript, my offer stands. Based on the last couple pages, I don't think you're going to get a better offer. I don't even see anyone offering half an ankle, or to let you stare at their faces without a veil, or sit in the same room as them, or coyly engage them in discourse about the monarchy.

On April 09 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
No. There's no way that's unlimited uses, I wouldn't have ever believed that, even if my birdmother was sitting in her deathnest and squawked that to me. But I don't think it's all positive and/or think you're lying. Same as thoughts before.

The last line is interesting, and if true, makes the power more balanced than what I was thinking.

On April 09 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:
If I have a chest full of stuff, I can't go "I am rich because I have so much stuff in this chest" and also go "I don't know what's in this chest or how much it's worth." I AM ON FIRE WITH MOSTLY TERRIBLE ANALOGIES TO WEIRD SITUATIONS THIS GAME.

On April 09 2014 06:25 IAmRobik wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can know you're town and still not know what the nature of your role abilities are. Like, if he made up the part that he "doesn't know" then he's a complete nutjob and has a fascinating imagination and I'm just gonna defriend him, cause he might just be a fucking crazy person that will try to find me and kill me IRL.

On April 09 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote:

No I am not shooting you. JAT might shoot you.

On April 09 2014 10:05 austinmcc wrote:
Is this the part where you go "Oh, I forgot to mention, but the way my chaos counter reset is balanced is that it also activates a prince of darkness power"

On April 09 2014 10:07 VayneAuthority wrote:


You didn't do anything.

Once he has placed his vote (or at the end of the 3rd day), the Spectre dissipates and travels to the great beyond.

On April 09 2014 10:13 austinmcc wrote:
It is likely someone, and more likely than not someone scummy, has a power that skips a day. In PYP games it's "prince of darkness," basically a one-shot power to go from night --> night.

On April 09 2014 10:27 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh, btw, Killing and Sandro know how to kill me and I'm still alive, so I'm just gonna go ahead and say they're town. Also, plammar may or may not know how to kill me, so the same applies to him.

On April 09 2014 11:00 IAmRobik wrote:

If we assume 1st is town, you think he needs to get got?

On April 09 2014 12:25 Paperscraps wrote:


IS HE A DRAGON MAN!??!?! Trogggdorrrrrr

On April 09 2014 12:30 Paperscraps wrote:
@Oats, so you are not of this world. What are you?

On April 09 2014 12:37 Paperscraps wrote:
Or possibly some 3rd party role.

On April 09 2014 13:02 Paperscraps wrote:


Do you think Oats is scummy? Because he is and you should.

On April 09 2014 19:44 sandroba wrote:
@killing if oats is dragon I may be able to do something about it tonight. can you confirm it?

On April 10 2014 02:10 IAmRobik wrote:

Why not?

On April 10 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Well if no one else has planned to save you then I can save you. But no point in saving you if you're 1) not going to be shot by maf 2) already have someone on you.

On April 10 2014 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I used my other power that was not my cop check last night - this night WaveofShadow should have received a healthy dose of empowerment, and I'll be using my DT check.

Anyone in doubt about my alignment needs to take a careful look at my (short) filter and come to the correct conclusion.

On April 10 2014 03:07 austinmcc wrote:
<----- I wavered between LSB and killing, but ultimately went with LSB in case I was overtunneling killing. HOWEVER IF I HAD MY DANG GUN TONIGHT I'D PEW PEW ME SOME KILLING.



sandroba, if you were untargetable last night, i did NOT affect the counters. Somebody done done something to increase that there chaos, I reckon.

On April 10 2014 03:12 austinmcc wrote:


(1) We don't know whatcho stuff does
(2) YOU JUST CALLED HIM A FELLOW MAFIA MEMBER. SUP SCUM
(3) I'm unsure how not knowing he was gonna get got is a ... positive. Scum is more likely to empower scumbuddies or whatever if they don't think scumbuddies will get shot. If you KNEW he was gonna get shot and still did something AND he died, that's a point in your favor (why waste juice on a guy who will be deaded). But because you didn't know, it's not a plus for you.

On April 10 2014 07:49 IAmRobik wrote:
I think Geript's win condition is to have me get modkilled

On April 10 2014 10:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Killing, what was the result of n3 and who was it?

On April 10 2014 10:54 WaveofShadow wrote:

This is decent info actually.
I don't think this role is useless.

On April 10 2014 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Joey why don't you use words like that in Video Mafia?

On April 10 2014 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuck. What a trap.
Sorry wave. Many <3 for fellow good wizard.
yo killing who havent you not checked for being a wizard?

On April 10 2014 12:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Killing, find me a wizard!

On April 10 2014 12:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

If saruman is not dead by endgame I lose even if we win.
saruman is totes a wizard.
Killing, find me a wizard!

On April 12 2014 01:01 IAmRobik wrote:
Joey, if Oats doesn't die, what do you think of checking him tonight?

On April 12 2014 02:18 austinmcc wrote:
Wait oats is probably town?

Or oats is probably town if he doesn't die here?

On April 12 2014 11:20 austinmcc wrote:
Can anyone who spoke with killing confirm this? I'm interested both in who he told about what would happen to LSB and his decision making process in choosing to target LSB, why he went with LSB over others.

On April 12 2014 11:32 austinmcc wrote:
What made you so sure on LSB that you targeted him over others?

On April 12 2014 12:17 austinmcc wrote:
kk. You're cool with the amount of conversation resulting in that change of mind?

Just trying to follow the town --> use power on him progression within that period of time.

On April 15 2014 11:05 justanothertownie wrote:

Hm?

On April 15 2014 11:13 Killing wrote:


We're winning boss

On April 16 2014 04:35 austinmcc wrote:
Why disable over the other options?

On April 16 2014 04:42 strongandbig wrote:
I also want to know why palmar thinks that amiko would be the best shot. I would go with someone with a less believable claim, like killing or ve.

On April 16 2014 05:45 austinmcc wrote:
Entirely serious.

On April 16 2014 06:11 austinmcc wrote:
Why is disabling it a good thing?

On April 16 2014 11:07 Paperscraps wrote:
People still alive geript, SnB, VE, Amiko, JAT, Killing, VA, Sandroba.

Palmar thinks VE is likely town. I tend to agree somewhat at this point.

Killing is leaning more null for me now. He needs to post and be more active. I am open minded to what people think about him. He has fallen off the radar as of late.

We have two 3p claims left on Amiko and JAT. JAT is the scummier of the two imo.

Then we have VA. I can't read VA. VA hasn't given us anything lately. We could kill this guy and I wouldn't mind.

At this point we should just all claim fully our roles and what we have done in the night. So let's get this party started:

I am the ash maiden and firekeeper of the firelink shrine. I heal people with reinforced estus flasks. I am impure though and can only heal as many people as the chaos counter. If the chaos counter is at zero then I cannot heal at all. The nights the chaos counter was at zero I guarded the device. I saved Sandroba n1 and n3. I guarded the device then on n2 and n4. Last night I saved SnB and geript.

There is one caveat to my role though. If I save multiple people, I choose one person to not be RBed, whereas everyone else I heal will be RBed. So last night I RBed geript and healed him. The main reason behind the geript save is he is being very active and seems to be trying to figure the game out. I saved SnB for reasons I won't state at the moment.

Also there was 3 kp last night. It is likely that JAT killed 1 of those people. So, we have 2 kp unaccounted for at the moment.

On April 16 2014 11:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
my role is simply I can limit on the day who is able to be lynched according to the chaos counter. if chaos = 2 then I can choose 2 other people and myself as the only ones that could be lynched for the day. pretty useless role as town.

On April 18 2014 11:40 Amiko wrote:


"But you’ve always been different from War, Famine and Conquest. While they are mere means to an end, you ARE the end. You play a different game… and on a different team."

FYI killing I misread this also but it basically says in the role PM that the other horses are town

On April 22 2014 01:28 geript wrote:
ah ok. W/E

Here's what's going to happen. I'll try to announce my action right before the deadline. It's going to be on one of JAT/SAndro/Killing unless have I have any other real breakthroughs in thinking between now and then.