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gumshoe
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On April 08 2014 03:50 getmoript wrote: Honestly, I think you're trying too hard right now. Seriously, please stop because you're wrong. Answer the question Geript, say you think Ceph is scum, why is he not voting, who is the 4th scum, why are they not voting? | ||
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On April 08 2014 03:52 Steveling wrote: He can't be that stupid to not understand why after what happened yesterday palmar is 100% confirmed scum. He can't be. Is getript always that thick guys? It's my first game with him. He is, always. | ||
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On April 08 2014 03:55 getmoript wrote: Why are scum not voting for scum.... hmmmmm. Well Let's look at the potential scum: Balla--inactive hasn't posted in a while. LSB--pretty inactive Ceph--Hasn't voted since he ninja voted Coag for no reason given Tehpoofter--Went poof Like please use your head and start to think. lsb is in slams group, he cant be scum with slam. Same to Balla, we can rule those two out. That leaves tehpoofter... whats his motive for no voting? Jack all, his absence is null, scum would benefit immensley having him here. | ||
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On April 08 2014 03:58 Steveling wrote: As I said earlier if ceph wouldn't appear he would be legit the best lynch, so ##unvote ##vote: Cephiro But I'm really scared. Please bilieve me steve T_T im begging you. | ||
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On April 08 2014 03:59 Steveling wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Cephiro Steve, if Prplz is scum, the team is outed. Its me, slam, tehpoofter, ceph, sentinel, no other combo makes sense, its either us, or just Prplz, so whats easier to believe? Do not sheep Geript, he is often wrong, do not sheep Holy, he has changed his reads 50 times over. Above all, bilieve in me T_T I know it takes courage, but please man, dont be bullied by scum and geript. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:00 Steveling wrote: WOAH GUMSHOE POST THAT MUSIC AGAIN | ||
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Geript, you are right about one thing, Palmars read on you is fantastic. is now. This is a well reasoned defense and I totally agree with it, as you know : D Compare that to this shit. I like this prplhz He said something yesterday that caused me to think "man this is townhaze", but I can't remember what. He wasn't very active during the time I was active at. Here is the post I'm referring to. It's a great observation, especially since I think Steve had just mentioned earlier that he was going to focus on his own group, then started randomly asking people for who to read up on. (post in question by prplz) More aribitrarily calling Prplz town. so after reading through the game you have absolutely no idea where to start filtering and instead you just filter whoever arbitrarily shows up? prplhz is town. No arguing, I'm better than anyone on TL at reading him. prplhz should never be lynched but prplhz is a pretty strong townread, I've pointed out at least one of the posts that make me think he has to be town. This is the entirety of Palmers argument that Prplz is town, compare that to the one on Geript, which was insanely well reasoned, Geript is obgectively townier than prp... and yet [quote]Also I have no idea how you can think geript is more likely to be town than prplhz.[/quote] Geript I agree, Palmer argument for why your town is inpecable, his read for Prplz doesnt even come close, so why does he read Prplz townier? Palmer knew he could get away with town reading you, he also knew that was critical to winning the game because your a huge threat to him otherwise. His read was so good on you because scums reads are perfect. That said he would have never lynched prplz over you / : which makes no sense given how amazing the read on you way. Face it bud, you got pocketed. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:23 getmoript wrote: Because he wasn't sure on me. His explanation for prplhz isn't as good. But it isn't awful. Like I understood his point and I'm ok with it now. Open your eyes man! His reasonings for thinking prp are terrible compared to his arguments for you which are fantastic( because your town and he knows that ) You think it's me that your doubting Geript? You called prp and rayn from the start, you knew I was town all along as well, you even knew holy was going to be scum before the game even began( hence the policy lynch suggestion) You are one of the best instinctual players on tl. Who was it that caught toad DAY 1 Geript? I understand alots thrown you off this game ( drunken outbursts and life oaths will do that) but it's not me your unsure of Geript, it's yourself. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:31 LSB wrote: Sorry for being AFK, so busy this past weekend. I'll try to catch up. I've already said that I would be expecting Cephiro to try to make an effort to play, and until he post I have absolutely no reason to not vote for him ##Vote: Cephiro Are you aware that Palmer was scum? | ||
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Palmer pushed for a lynch on me in my cell, why do that if I'm scum? He also risk Steve in that spot. No reason to argue for a lynch there if Rayn was town cause it risks steve, therefore Rayn is scum, Palmar is scum, Palmar said this about ceph and prplz prplhz is town. No arguing, I'm better than anyone on TL at reading him. geript is probably town, he has, or for the most part Cav, has said some strange things, but geript also looks really mafia when he's mafia, so I'm just relying on the fact I always know he's mafia day 1 when he is to tell me he hast to be town. So ceph is mafia. So are we letting mafia decide the lynch today? We lynched the lurker yesterday, why not try something fresh lsb? | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:31 LSB wrote: Sorry for being AFK, so busy this past weekend. I'll try to catch up. I've already said that I would be expecting Cephiro to try to make an effort to play, and until he post I have absolutely no reason to not vote for him ##Vote: Cephiro Why cant ceph be busy? Dont scum have more of a motive to looking townie? Please dont default lynch LSB t_t | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:43 LSB wrote: Well yes, you do have a point about Ceph being busy. I guess I'll stay awake and read up on prphz Also plam was scum, who was like uber confirmed town XD till the lynch revealed itself to be a frace. Why would he bus his team mate if no one thinks hes scum? Had the vote not went lopside, we would never have known he was red (not for sure at least) which means his word would still be well regarded. Why bus his team mate in that spot? Its really clear, we lynched a lurker yesterday and that was a shit move, how would you feel if it was your lynch today and we killed you just cause you have a life? There're is no scum reasoning for ceph lurking till now. His actions are null at best while Prplz can clearly be tied to scum who had no motive to bus. | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:44 Cephiro wrote: Alright. I really don't see a scum prplhz taking the risk and forcing a lynch between me and him only. Surely, I've been extremely inactive, but if I haven't read the thread wrong there has been opinions back and forth. Especially combined with the straight-up admittance that he'd not be around for the lynch since a few hours ago. Getmoript has also kept discussion about our own cell to the very minimum. Certainly, there is much less to go by as I haven't been posting and there is a lot of reason to provide reads for other cells, but it conviniently aligns up. If he considers himself to be in no threat of being lynched, why not spend the remainder of the time to prepare the following mislynches if he's mafia? The one thing which is making me doubt my scumread on geript is the late votes on Coagulation after mine. prplhz and Steveling both ended up voting Coag and tipping the lynch on him. Whom I think is scum in the remaining cells: Cell 1: Steveling (Late vote, lots of overreacting emotional play, seems too over-the-top to be genuine to me.) Cell 2: Tehpoofter (Hasn't convinced me at all since the start, mderg's later play looks more towny to me. HF is town.) Cell 3: Balla24 (Hard to say due to the little content, I was suspicious of LSB but I ended up misreading his town play and pressured him as scum wrongly for a long time in the last game we were in and due to my non-committal I'm afraid I might be wrong on that again. Slam makes no sense like always, but something about it is giving me a townie vibe this time.) ##vote: geript Cephirio, let me makes this clear, we found out plam was scum yesterday, this absolves me, steve and you if we can just lynch prplz today and prove palm was scum with him. We are never ever ever lynching geript because he is town. I am begging you, if you vote geript, you are killing yourself and thereby a townie. Give us a chance at least, we cant lynch prplz without you ) : | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:51 Cephiro wrote: I'm voting geript because I believe him to be scum. This isn't a setup where there are any benefits for town to choose another town target to lynch. I believe that prplhz is town, and him being lynched instead of me doesn't get us anywhere. So I am doing the thing that every townie should do in my situation, vote for the scumread and encourage others to do so as well. Everyone, vote geript and lynch scum. You know you are town correct? | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:54 getmoript wrote: No we didn't gum. Please listen to me once Ceph flips scum. Lynch Steve. Lynch idk. Lynch Slam. TOWN. LYNCH STEVE--REASONS IN FILTER. I THINK GUM IS PLAYING BADLY BUT IS TOWN. RAYN 100% TOWN THOUGH LYNCH IDK--I'VE BEEN FLIPFLOPPING HERE ALOT ON WHO I THINK IS WHAT. HONESTLY I STILL DON'T KNOW. I LIKE HF'S VOTES SO FAR, BUT HE COULD STILL BE SCUM. I'M GOING TO GUESS TO LYNCH MDERG DESPITE MY SOFT TOWNREAD OF HIM EARLIER. HONESTLY IDK, BUT MDERG SEEMS SAFE LYNCH SLAM--NOT HIS TOWN PLAY 100% HARD TO EXPLAIN BUT HE'S NOT SHEEPING HIS STRONGEST TOWNREAD (ME) Geript if there is any possibility that Holy is scum, you should lynch prplz. Me, Holy, steve, slam, instantly 4 alignments become clear if we just lynch prplz. You want answers? your not going to get them by killing the lurker ) : Please bilieve in me Geript, they're is nothing but certainty in my heart. Never sheep me again if I'm scum or wrong, but just this once, walts with me will you? | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:56 getmoript wrote: Also. Don't forget the vote counts and vote analysis. I'm pretty sure there were at least 3 scum on Coag and that Sent was scum. You argue theyre are 5 scum at that point, they almost let sent die and sent voted himself T_T so max theyre could only be 4 scum votes on coag if we believe your theory. Why not just accept that Palmar manipulated us rather than 5 people are awful? Is Palmar not capable of that? | ||
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On April 08 2014 04:59 getmoript wrote: No gum... no. How can I ever trust you if you aren't willing to trust me? I have spent nights lying awake thinking about this game Geript, I know what I'm doing, dont you hate it when you know whose scum but nobody believes you? Thats where I'm at right now Geript ) : we can do this together, I know we can T_T | ||
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On April 08 2014 05:03 Steveling wrote: Yes let's jump on the crazy train along with getript who doesn't understand that palmar was scum. I'm still undecided but I really want to vote getript since I don't think he's retarded irl. He has alot of faith in his reads, hes just really stubborn but hes not scum. I can link you examples if you like. | ||
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