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On April 02 2014 09:44 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 08:57 Tehpoofter wrote:On April 02 2014 04:56 getmoript wrote:On April 02 2014 03:47 prplhz wrote:
so maybe the mayor doesn't matter much
so how we rank these groups. i think we should have annoying unreadable players on d1 since more time with them isn't going to give us more information. there's a small consideration in that we kind of might get people's flip when their group is up so it might be a good idea to put a group with good players in d3 so later towns have something to go on for sure.
dunno though, all of these groups seems okay. if anything, i think cell4 is a good group for first lynch. Rayn you liked this post and I absolutely hate it. Why in the world do you like this post? This is an awful post and you should know why? You roll scum? I don't like this first post by geript his first post of the game is to go out and accuse someone who is in his cell. I find that really scummy because of how this game is setup. Just in general I find it scummy because of how this setup looks to me. He also reaches out to rayn and from what I know of rayn he is a tunneling type player who will push push push for a read so if geript as scum can get town rayn thinking prplhz is already scum right off the bat this is ideal for him. I think he might have been trying to accomplish that. here. This is the exact thing I brought up in my first post about how I think scum would ideally play this game to give them the best chance at winning. @geript do you think my assessment of how the ideal town play to ignore the people in your cell until your lynch day is a good way to force people to read others and make connections is bad? If so can you ignore the others in your group until then? (obviously still get reads and have that ready for your lynch day but until then pretend they're not important to read) No. Ideal town play is to evaluate everyone. A strong town read vastly improves odds of hitting scum outside your pod and makes a 100% lynch in pod. Plus it lets you work together more in lynching correctly by getting honest opinions.
Working in your pod isn't invalid, but this is true.
What good is it if you know who scum is but the thread is still suspicious of you? Or can't decide and you can't convince them because you don't know who in their pod is scummy?
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Or like, I don't understand how the order impacts the game because we don't know whether or not the people we are accounting for are mafia or town. Not to mention most people who are "unreadable" suddenly become really readable when everyone is focusing on them. Most unreadable people just sort of hang around until someone focuses them.
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On April 02 2014 09:47 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:
like I haven't really read the thread but the current suggestion seems to be putting up unreadable players early and good players late?
So we just lose straight up if we mislynch the unreadable people twice and the first good player batch happens to be a good player batch with a strong mafia player?
I honestly don't think the order has any impact on the game at all. But I'm fine with being first. No the suggestion is we don't give a fuck about who is put up in any order yet and we scumhunt. At the end of this phase we put the order so that groups where there are very very likely to be found mafia get lynched first. So don't afk and scumhunt. ~rayn
Ok yeah, that's a lot better idea.
Can I be mayor?
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On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:42 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days. Isn't this part of the game your jam? No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn Cool, tell me about it on thursday. What are you gonna do if slam becomes happy?
He still think I'm mafia?
Why the heck? Maybe this will break the interperetation of happy?
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On April 02 2014 09:48 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:47 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:
like I haven't really read the thread but the current suggestion seems to be putting up unreadable players early and good players late?
So we just lose straight up if we mislynch the unreadable people twice and the first good player batch happens to be a good player batch with a strong mafia player?
I honestly don't think the order has any impact on the game at all. But I'm fine with being first. No the suggestion is we don't give a fuck about who is put up in any order yet and we scumhunt. At the end of this phase we put the order so that groups where there are very very likely to be found mafia get lynched first. So don't afk and scumhunt. ~rayn Ok yeah, that's a lot better idea. Can I be mayor?
sure
##vote Palmar
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 09:48 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:47 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:
like I haven't really read the thread but the current suggestion seems to be putting up unreadable players early and good players late?
So we just lose straight up if we mislynch the unreadable people twice and the first good player batch happens to be a good player batch with a strong mafia player?
I honestly don't think the order has any impact on the game at all. But I'm fine with being first. No the suggestion is we don't give a fuck about who is put up in any order yet and we scumhunt. At the end of this phase we put the order so that groups where there are very very likely to be found mafia get lynched first. So don't afk and scumhunt. ~rayn Ok yeah, that's a lot better idea. Can I be mayor?
If u post a lot I will vote you
Shalt be an ultralisk
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On April 02 2014 09:48 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:42 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days. Isn't this part of the game your jam? No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn Cool, tell me about it on thursday. What are you gonna do if slam becomes happy? He still think I'm mafia? Why the heck? Maybe this will break the interperetation of happy?
Counter him.
Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia
non-smiley reasonable rayn = town
easiest read of my life.
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Oh Raynpelikonoshi not raynpelikoshi
Hijole
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On April 02 2014 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:41 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? Ha! I have observed! You use am iPhone don't you? Probably a 4 or 4S that you updated to iOS7... Close, it's an ipad XD Hmmm... That would be Does iOS7 go on the pads? Didn't know that. Anyway what is your gameplan for attacking this problem of losing two town voices every lynch? In fact is anyone considering that angle?
A scum one is lost as well, so It feels like a problem that evens itself out honestly. Basically I dont think it's a factor that supersedes questionable alignment or outright scumminess(which is probally how we should considering the order, by who we need to flip the most in terms of information and results.)
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On April 02 2014 09:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:48 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:42 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days. Isn't this part of the game your jam? No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn Cool, tell me about it on thursday. What are you gonna do if slam becomes happy? He still think I'm mafia? Why the heck? Maybe this will break the interperetation of happy? Counter him. Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia non-smiley reasonable rayn = town easiest read of my life.
K
Here is my counter
Both he and geript decided this before I said anything by trolling.
When I returned I posted a video of the Pretenders.
That is a massive Chisté, if you don't get it I can post another and maybe you will
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This game is really easy btw, can just read like 3 filters and you're guaranteed one of them is scum.
Will start doing that tomorrow.
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On April 02 2014 09:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:48 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:42 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days. Isn't this part of the game your jam? No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn Cool, tell me about it on thursday. What are you gonna do if slam becomes happy? He still think I'm mafia? Why the heck? Maybe this will break the interperetation of happy? Counter him. Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia non-smiley reasonable rayn = town easiest read of my life.
Thats completely wrong, I have played not one but two extremely aggressive games with scum Rayn, why do you feel the need to tell hurtful lies palmar ) :
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On April 02 2014 09:52 Palmar wrote:
This game is really easy btw, can just read like 3 filters and you're guaranteed one of them is scum.
Will start doing that tomorrow.
I'll do one better. You only need to read Sentinel's filter and tell me if he is scum or town and why so i am pretty sure we won. 
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 09:53 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:50 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:48 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:42 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days. Isn't this part of the game your jam? No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn Cool, tell me about it on thursday. What are you gonna do if slam becomes happy? He still think I'm mafia? Why the heck? Maybe this will break the interperetation of happy? Counter him. Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia non-smiley reasonable rayn = town easiest read of my life. Thats completely wrong, I have played not one but two extremely aggressive games with scum Rayn, why do you feel the need to tell hurtful lies palmar ) :
say what?
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On April 02 2014 09:51 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? Ha! I have observed! You use am iPhone don't you? Probably a 4 or 4S that you updated to iOS7... Close, it's an ipad XD Hmmm... That would be Does iOS7 go on the pads? Didn't know that. Anyway what is your gameplan for attacking this problem of losing two town voices every lynch? In fact is anyone considering that angle? A scum one is lost as well, so It feels like a problem that evens itself out honestly. Basically I dont think it's a factor that supersedes questionable alignment or outright scumminess(which is probally how we should considering the order, by who we need to flip the most in terms of information and results.)
No
It is the only reason ordering matters. Think on why.
Uscumbro?
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Ok if you take off palmar you so do not get my vote man
Must for to think what town voice is likeliest to be strong
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On April 02 2014 09:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:52 Palmar wrote:
This game is really easy btw, can just read like 3 filters and you're guaranteed one of them is scum.
Will start doing that tomorrow. I'll do one better. You only need to read Sentinel's filter and tell me if he is scum or town and why so i am pretty sure we won. ~rayn
Counter him.
Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia
non-smiley reasonable rayn = town
easiest read of my life.
Care to revaluate your read Plam?
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On April 02 2014 09:57 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:52 Palmar wrote:
This game is really easy btw, can just read like 3 filters and you're guaranteed one of them is scum.
Will start doing that tomorrow. I'll do one better. You only need to read Sentinel's filter and tell me if he is scum or town and why so i am pretty sure we won. ~rayn Show nested quote +Counter him.
Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia
non-smiley reasonable rayn = town
easiest read of my life. Care to revaluate your read Plam?
He's outed scum now.
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