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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On April 02 2014 04:42 LSB wrote: The most important feature of cell mafia is the ability to cull inactive players as soon as possible. This is interesting because this allows the game to maintain a level of activity and analysis demanded for the full duration, rather than it being a game between lurkers at lylo. Activity is very town favored because it is easier to find mafia if everyone has to speak, than throw darts at lurkers. I am going to rank players based on what I remember based on the most recent game in the TL mafia database A - Active Players, solid contributions and good amount of posts IL - Inactive or Lurking players, little thread presence in the last game This raiting is mainly to determine inactivity. Bold is for emphasis I didn't look to hard, but if you had at least 8 pages of posts I considered you active and if you had long posts I counted you as active Cell 1 A - Raynpelikonoshi - Probably the most active player on the forums A - Gumshoe - Active in A quiet game A - Steveling http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/311554-surprisingly-normal-mini-mafia-vii?user=Steveling&page=4 Cell 2 A Holyflare - Active in LXIII IL Tehpoofter - Modkilled for inactivity last game IL mderg - Inactive last game he played. It was 2 years ago http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/309405-werewolves-invade-teamliquid-ii?user=mderg Cell 3 A Palmar - Active in Default Suspicions IL Sentinel - Self admitted inactive and not in for the long haul ? Coagulation - Kushm4sta is active, but Coag can't post his seal. Cell 4 A Balla24 - Active in Default Suspicions A LSB IL Alakaslam - Pretends to be Chez, but never back it up with analysis. Cell 5 A Getmoript - Previous Hydra was active A prplhz - Active in Default supsions A Cephiro - Active in GMB If we go by this we see that Cell 1 and Cell 5 contain all active players. Cell 2 contains two inactive players Cell 3/4 contain at least one inactive player. Based on this, my ideal order would be 2,3,4,5,1. Or 2,3,4,1,5 Ultimentally this data would be best supplimented by seeing day 1 post counts. I like this analysis. I don't know the players in the forum that well aside from maybe 4-5 of you that I've played with know from video mafia. I think that something like this is really good to be thinking about. Just on a note for myself I have played two more games recently than the one you mention where I was mod killed with admittedly low activity(its crazy how much someone like rayn posts) Titanic and currently Dr Who 2 so I would still put myself in the low activity side of things. LSB Do you think my idea for ignoring the people in your own cell and focusing on those outside of it is good? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote: So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote: "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On April 02 2014 06:17 Coagulation wrote: hi -coag Sup Van? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On April 02 2014 06:42 getmoript wrote: No it wasn't. Me and Cav are clearly town here. You should obviously be reading me for town here. Like you say it's full of shit and completely ignore the fact that I want to lynch Alakaslam with fire; I'm nailed him every time and he's 100% the lynch from that group. Like you don't even get why I want to lynch prplhz. I don't even get why you're trying to bury me here. I cannot see you not supporting me here as town. Hmm. Raynpelikoshi, I am willing to be day1 lynch to prove dis wrong but I would rather not. Between Balla and LSB, who is more likely to be scum and why? You two (Balla, LSB) incriminate each other yeah? I can incriminate both of you if you want but I will probably fail I am aware this is scummy | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote: So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote: I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? Ha! I have observed! You use am iPhone don't you? Probably a 4 or 4S that you updated to iOS7... | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:38 Alakaslam wrote: Ha! I have observed! You use am iPhone don't you? Probably a 4 or 4S that you updated to iOS7... Close, it's an ipad XD | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote: yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days. Isn't this part of the game your jam? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 02 2014 08:57 Tehpoofter wrote: I don't like this first post by geript his first post of the game is to go out and accuse someone who is in his cell. I find that really scummy because of how this game is setup. Just in general I find it scummy because of how this setup looks to me. He also reaches out to rayn and from what I know of rayn he is a tunneling type player who will push push push for a read so if geript as scum can get town rayn thinking prplhz is already scum right off the bat this is ideal for him. I think he might have been trying to accomplish that. here. This is the exact thing I brought up in my first post about how I think scum would ideally play this game to give them the best chance at winning. @geript do you think my assessment of how the ideal town play to ignore the people in your cell until your lynch day is a good way to force people to read others and make connections is bad? If so can you ignore the others in your group until then? (obviously still get reads and have that ready for your lynch day but until then pretend they're not important to read) No. Ideal town play is to evaluate everyone. A strong town read vastly improves odds of hitting scum outside your pod and makes a 100% lynch in pod. Plus it lets you work together more in lynching correctly by getting honest opinions. | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote: No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Hmmm... That would be Does iOS7 go on the pads? Didn't know that. Anyway what is your gameplan for attacking this problem of losing two town voices every lynch? In fact is anyone considering that angle? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
So we just lose straight up if we mislynch the unreadable people twice and the first good player batch happens to be a good player batch with a strong mafia player? I honestly don't think the order has any impact on the game at all. But I'm fine with being first. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote: No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn Cool, tell me about it on thursday. What are you gonna do if slam becomes happy? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote: like I haven't really read the thread but the current suggestion seems to be putting up unreadable players early and good players late? So we just lose straight up if we mislynch the unreadable people twice and the first good player batch happens to be a good player batch with a strong mafia player? I honestly don't think the order has any impact on the game at all. But I'm fine with being first. Were of course open to suggestions to change it up, the whole unreadable player thing was just a way to get discussion started. Do you have an order in mind maybe? As long as your first in it im happy  | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote: like I haven't really read the thread but the current suggestion seems to be putting up unreadable players early and good players late? So we just lose straight up if we mislynch the unreadable people twice and the first good player batch happens to be a good player batch with a strong mafia player? I honestly don't think the order has any impact on the game at all. But I'm fine with being first. No the suggestion is we don't give a fuck about who is put up in any order yet and we scumhunt. At the end of this phase we put the order so that groups where there are very very likely to be found mafia get lynched first. So don't afk and scumhunt. ~rayn | ||
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