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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 20 2014 04:26 GMT
#1621
On March 20 2014 13:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:08 Vivax wrote:
I do x, I know I'm town. I say some dude is town cause he didn't do x. Does it finally ring?

The alleged scumread is DP cause he agreed on HF's case to its full extent.


OK so X is talking about Coag vs Rayn right?

OK so here is my interpretation of that. tehpoofter is not claiming that townies won't talk about coag vs rayn. His statement "Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours" is related to his statement about "reading between lines," the last of which he later admitted to being a terrible miscomminication. HF "reading between the lines" means that holyflare was interested in things other than the "lines," or "the main issue in the thread." So he townread holyflare not because townies don't talk about rayn vs coag, but because HF showing interest in more than just the thread's main issue is townie.


Here is my interpretation of that townread on HF, which is also a big message to you to go read the fucking thread.

On March 19 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote:
rayn ur bad and should feel bad

Do you think your post was good and moved the thread forward.
What was your plan on finding mafia with that post?

This is the main question and if you do not answer me reasonably i am not going to move my vote.


This question is also relevant to 3/4 of the thread you know. I read that coag post completely differently though. What is interesting to see is how it was pointed out that dp being overdefensive was scummy (by coag) but then they completely went over the overdefensive line in response to you.



Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 20 2014 04:28 GMT
#1622
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 20 2014 04:32 GMT
#1623
On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.


I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant:

"not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie"

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 04:33 GMT
#1624
yeh, i read it like thrawn is saying? I was talking about non-coag/rayn things at the time, just because I mentioned it once doesn't mean I participated
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 04:34 GMT
#1625
On March 20 2014 11:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam there is ~20 hours left in the day and noone thinks you are mafia.


Sick plays.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 20 2014 04:48 GMT
#1626
On March 20 2014 13:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.


I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant:

"not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie"



Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 04:52 GMT
#1627
On March 20 2014 13:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.


I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant:

"not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie"



Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened?


isn't he referencing the part where I point out palmar and dp?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 20 2014 04:57 GMT
#1628
On March 20 2014 13:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.


I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant:

"not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie"



Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened?


Look vivax. Here is holy flare doing something other than talk about coag during the rayn/coag stuff. This is what tehpoofter meant by "reading between the lines."
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 20 2014 04:59 GMT
#1629
On March 20 2014 13:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:48 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.


I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant:

"not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie"



Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened?


isn't he referencing the part where I point out palmar and dp?


Maybe you should ask him, or compare the timestamps. Figure out if he's scum and shit, I thought that's what were here for, not defending people for bad reasons. You chose to dismiss my arguments without even knowing for sure who he was talking about?

DP is here, you promised to tell us why he's scum. Proceed please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 20 2014 05:00 GMT
#1630
On March 20 2014 13:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:48 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.


I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant:

"not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie"



Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened?


Look vivax. Here is holy flare doing something other than talk about coag during the rayn/coag stuff. This is what tehpoofter meant by "reading between the lines."


He specifically said "IN THE FIRST THREE HOURS OF THE GAME". That post is later.
GOD.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:02 GMT
#1631
What I am more interested in regarding Tehpoofter is how his story changed from the first post regarding holyflare and his later clarification. I initially did not realize it because it took so damn long for him to answer my question but here is a fundamental problem I have with his story.
I cut out the non essential parts of this post. Here are the Important bits:

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.


His read on Koshi is important: Why? because here he gives a town read, for a specific reason. (because he was not getting caught up in rayn/coag shit fight and was insteadtalking about other things) he states the read and the reason.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!


The next part he is talking about holyflares 'case' not holyflare himself. He likes that 'case' because of some unclear undefined reason. This is obviously very different from the clear read and reason given for his town read Koshi above.

After seeking clarity which tehpoofter admits he avoided providing he posts this:
On March 20 2014 10:17 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
What did you like about holy flare "reading between the lines"? and what does that even mean?


Reading between the lines was bad phrasing it was more about him bringing up other cases outside of on rayn and coag going on then. He was not just looking at this one thing going on and saying omfg this guy is town in the arguement he was looking at your interactions during it and basing it off that. It felt more townie to me to be concerned with not just the one argument. I saw you ask this earlier but i find my phrasing insignificant at best and I don't really care if you think I'm scummy for not answering a question about someone I town read.


And this:
On March 20 2014 10:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DP Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours that is also why I have a town read on Koshi (early town read) That was basically all I was saying I phrased it poorly so I understand your confusion.


In which he states that he was in fact giving HF a town read for the same reasons that he gave Koshi a town read. I accepted this at face value until I read his filter again. This is outright bullshit.

He clearly is talking about how he likes holyflares case not that he thinks holyflare is town.
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!


And we know know his post hoc explanation behind his reasoning that he tried so hard to avoid providing is bullshit also.

Because if he is making this exact read:

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.


on holyflare it should read like this

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi Holyflare gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.


Rather than this:

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!


He is clearly talking about a case rather than a town read of HF, he is clearly not giving the same reasoning as koshi, because

A.) it makes no sense in the context of liking HF"s case against me and

B.) It is not what he had otherwise clearly stated in regards to koshi.

Now this would be a lot more meaningful if he had answered my question that I have asked half a dozen time.

But Tehpoofter ACTIVELY AVOIDED ANSWERING IT.

/case
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:03 GMT
#1632
I always use random hours to say what i'm saying "in like the first 5 hours of the game" could mean in the first 7 hours, it's not a massive point, I was asking you about a specific point you raised as to why it makes him scum because it didn't
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:05 GMT
#1633
but yeh dp voting giggletummy even after he provided reasoning that DP should agree with because DP is trying to use that logic to call me scum is super super duper weird
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:05 GMT
#1634
On March 20 2014 13:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:52 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:48 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards.


I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant:

"not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie"



Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened?


isn't he referencing the part where I point out palmar and dp?


Maybe you should ask him, or compare the timestamps. Figure out if he's scum and shit, I thought that's what were here for, not defending people for bad reasons. You chose to dismiss my arguments without even knowing for sure who he was talking about?

DP is here, you promised to tell us why he's scum. Proceed please.


Please no. Why would you want to get holyflare going again? All he has done with his 'push' on me is shat up the thread and prevented me from scum-hunting.

He is not going to lynch me. The most that can come from it is a fucking mess.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:06 GMT
#1635
dp stfu i have 11+ pages of filter and only like 3 of them are talking about you, you've done nothing but commit logical fallacies all game and are now trying to paint me in a negative light at every opportunity you get
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:07 GMT
#1636
and I am making a giant wall of text on dp for you all to sheep
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:08 GMT
#1637
On March 20 2014 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh dp voting giggletummy even after he provided reasoning that DP should agree with because DP is trying to use that logic to call me scum is super super duper weird


He made a vote then afk'd which is a classic scum tell. He then made a case on an old vote much too late and then afk'd again.

I even said. If this dude goes afk again we should lynch him.

Now kindly shut up about me. Get your vote that has been uselessly on me all game the fuck off me and do something else.

K thanks.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:11 GMT
#1638
I want to know what people think of tehpoofter after reading my case.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:11 GMT
#1639
no because you are actually fucking scum and i'm going to prove it you can whine about it all game and all post game about how my reasoning is wrong but your flip will justify this shit

giggletummy - it doesn't matter WHEN he posted his reasoning, it is all stuff that you have been saying that I was doing all game. YOU AGREE WITH HIS FUCKING CASE AND VOTE HIM OVER TEHPOOFTER WHO YOU MADE A GIANT CASE ON STRAIGHT AWAY CALLING HIM 100% SCUM
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 20 2014 05:15 GMT
#1640
On March 20 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote:
I always use random hours to say what i'm saying "in like the first 5 hours of the game" could mean in the first 7 hours, it's not a massive point, I was asking you about a specific point you raised as to why it makes him scum because it didn't


You mean you nitpicked a part of my case that you felt was easy to discredit? Do I have to assume that you found the other points good since you didn't comment on them?

Ie him saying he didn't read GT cause he promised reasoning, not wondering why he would post so little in a range of roughly 1 h?
Ie him agreeing with your case, then telling his scumread(?) to back off from him, then asking you if you think that a specific bit would come from a scum DP?
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