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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 05:17 GMT
#1641
@Thrawn thanks for defending me but I got this.

@vivax. Your accusation is shit. I explained my stance on HF quite well and if you can't read what I said as simply bad phrasing from someone then thats fine scum read me for it but you're incorrect. I will explain one last time then I'm on to scum hunting. I said read between the lines that was a poor choice of phrasing I just meant HF wasn't just focused on the Rayn/coag situation but wanted to look at other sources. This made me read him as town even if I didn't think that his case was super strong I wouldn't expect it to be that early so I read him town for making one.


No onto real scum hunting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 20 2014 05:20 GMT
#1642
So you didn't think DP was scum based on that case you liked? Show me the specific case you're talking about cause HF mentioned DP in multiple instances.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:20 GMT
#1643
On March 20 2014 14:11 Holyflare wrote:
no because you are actually fucking scum and i'm going to prove it you can whine about it all game and all post game about how my reasoning is wrong but your flip will justify this shit

giggletummy - it doesn't matter WHEN he posted his reasoning, it is all stuff that you have been saying that I was doing all game. YOU AGREE WITH HIS FUCKING CASE AND VOTE HIM OVER TEHPOOFTER WHO YOU MADE A GIANT CASE ON STRAIGHT AWAY CALLING HIM 100% SCUM


I'm not scum so all that is going to happen is you looking ridiculous and hopefully this never happens again after you are served your humble pie.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:21 GMT
#1644
On March 20 2014 14:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote:
I always use random hours to say what i'm saying "in like the first 5 hours of the game" could mean in the first 7 hours, it's not a massive point, I was asking you about a specific point you raised as to why it makes him scum because it didn't


You mean you nitpicked a part of my case that you felt was easy to discredit? Do I have to assume that you found the other points good since you didn't comment on them?

Ie him saying he didn't read GT cause he promised reasoning, not wondering why he would post so little in a range of roughly 1 h?
Ie him agreeing with your case, then telling his scumread(?) to back off from him, then asking you if you think that a specific bit would come from a scum DP?


I responded to your last post, how is that nitpicking?

"he said in the first 3 hours of the game" was your only point in that post that i responded to, why are you so angry that i'm not paying attention to what you've written yet?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:25 GMT
#1645
are you ready for a wall of text guys?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 20 2014 05:26 GMT
#1646
I made a case with multiple points in it, you responded to one point of it. That is nitpicking. Consider all the information or don't write about it. Besides Poofter can perfectly answer to it by himself, hence I see no reason to defend him as town unless you have a point that proves he's town, which neither you nor thrawn brought up after I requested it. If you aren't sure about his alignment then you have no reason to defend him cause you need him to talk to figure it out.

Moral of the story: Don't take away pressure from my scumread unless you have a damn good reason to, which you don't seem to have.

Scum-or-dumb-points to both of you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:28 GMT
#1647
On March 20 2014 14:26 Vivax wrote:
I made a case with multiple points in it, you responded to one point of it. That is nitpicking. Consider all the information or don't write about it. Besides Poofter can perfectly answer to it by himself, hence I see no reason to defend him as town unless you have a point that proves he's town, which neither you nor thrawn brought up after I requested it. If you aren't sure about his alignment then you have no reason to defend him cause you need him to talk to figure it out.

Moral of the story: Don't take away pressure from my scumread unless you have a damn good reason to, which you don't seem to have.

Scum-or-dumb-points to both of you.


you are dumb, if when nitpicked over individual points some of them don't have to come from a scum mindset but can come from a town mindset then your case contains fundamentally flawed logic because you are adding null points to bolster a case on someone that shouldn't exist in your case in the first place
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 20 2014 05:36 GMT
#1648
What Poofter did in regards to reacting to DP, townreading you and giving giggletummy a free pass after posting all that fluff are points that do not rely on each other. Even making one invalid, the other still stand. That guy is scum and you are bad and should feel bad for not having your vote on him.

Reading your filter I also noticed you tried to paint me as scummy for the way I replied to Koshi based on shitty meta. What was the point of all that since apparently you aren't pushing me as your scumread?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:39 GMT
#1649
On March 20 2014 14:36 Vivax wrote:
What Poofter did in regards to reacting to DP, townreading you and giving giggletummy a free pass after posting all that fluff are points that do not rely on each other. Even making one invalid, the other still stand. That guy is scum and you are bad and should feel bad for not having your vote on him.

Reading your filter I also noticed you tried to paint me as scummy for the way I replied to Koshi based on shitty meta. What was the point of all that since apparently you aren't pushing me as your scumread?


I pointed out that it was odd giving that you had a totally different reaction to the same principal in the game we just played. I haven't read poofter and don't intend to till i've done this dp thing, is that a problem? I don't think it is because even if he is scum I need to find the others too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 05:40 GMT
#1650
i didn't even read your case yet so whatevs brb
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 20 2014 05:41 GMT
#1651
Yeah post your DP thingy and then read into Poofter and give me something conclusive please.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 05:45 GMT
#1652
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:46 GMT
#1653
On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.


Why haven't you addressed what I wrote?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 05:49 GMT
#1654
On March 20 2014 14:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.


Why haven't you addressed what I wrote?


Its the same thing you wrote before and I'm ignoring your tunneling because your wrong and you clearly are a player that tunnels. Get off me and look elsewhere if you're town which I actually think you are. I've addressed what you said before and did yet again which I can link.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 05:52 GMT
#1655
On March 20 2014 14:17 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Thrawn thanks for defending me but I got this.

@vivax. Your accusation is shit. I explained my stance on HF quite well and if you can't read what I said as simply bad phrasing from someone then thats fine scum read me for it but you're incorrect. I will explain one last time then I'm on to scum hunting. I said read between the lines that was a poor choice of phrasing I just meant HF wasn't just focused on the Rayn/coag situation but wanted to look at other sources. This made me read him as town even if I didn't think that his case was super strong I wouldn't expect it to be that early so I read him town for making one.


No onto real scum hunting.



@DP i address it again here just so you can see bolded for you. MAn this Tehpoofter guy is town is what you should be typing.

Your point about me changing between the case and the read on HF I meant it as a read on HF and even in my diagram I didn't put you as scummy because I didn't agree that you were from his case I pushed you more towards scum cause at the time I read you more scummy than him but not scummy.

We good? I will entertain your accusations for the next like 30 minutes so feel free to keep them coming but after that if you're town we need to actually kill mafia not fight.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:53 GMT
#1656
On March 20 2014 14:49 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 14:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.


Why haven't you addressed what I wrote?


Its the same thing you wrote before and I'm ignoring your tunneling because your wrong and you clearly are a player that tunnels. Get off me and look elsewhere if you're town which I actually think you are. I've addressed what you said before and did yet again which I can link.


OK link it. I literally have not talked about this before. And I am not tunneled. Link where I have said the same things and where you have responded.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 05:56 GMT
#1657
On March 20 2014 14:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 14:17 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Thrawn thanks for defending me but I got this.

@vivax. Your accusation is shit. I explained my stance on HF quite well and if you can't read what I said as simply bad phrasing from someone then thats fine scum read me for it but you're incorrect. I will explain one last time then I'm on to scum hunting. I said read between the lines that was a poor choice of phrasing I just meant HF wasn't just focused on the Rayn/coag situation but wanted to look at other sources. This made me read him as town even if I didn't think that his case was super strong I wouldn't expect it to be that early so I read him town for making one.


No onto real scum hunting.



@DP i address it again here just so you can see bolded for you. MAn this Tehpoofter guy is town is what you should be typing.

Your point about me changing between the case and the read on HF I meant it as a read on HF and even in my diagram I didn't put you as scummy because I didn't agree that you were from his case I pushed you more towards scum cause at the time I read you more scummy than him but not scummy.

We good? I will entertain your accusations for the next like 30 minutes so feel free to keep them coming but after that if you're town we need to actually kill mafia not fight.


No that does not make sense because you were talking about Holyflare's case on me not about a read on holyflare. You literally said that you liked holyflare's case. Not that you thought that Holy was town and holy's case had nothing to do with the raayn coag situation.

Now you are saying you didn't think the case was good. But originally you said you liked his case. That is a completely out of whack story you have going on.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 06:01:57
March 20 2014 05:56 GMT
#1658
[image loading]

DarthPunk (1): Holyflare
Coagulation (0): DarthPunk, raynpelikoneet, thrawn2112
Holyflare (1): Giggletummy
Tehpoofter (1): DarthPunk, Vivax
Hopeless1der (0): raynpelikoneet
djodref (3): Oatsmaster, Koshi, thrawn2112
Giggletummy (5): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der, DarthPunk

Not Voting: djodref, tehpoofter, Alakaslam

Currently Giggletummy is set to be lynched.
Day ends in

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 05:58 GMT
#1659
On March 20 2014 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
@ tehpoofter. What did you like about holyflare 'reading between the lines' and what the fuck does that even mean?



On March 20 2014 10:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DP Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours that is also why I have a town read on Koshi (early town read) That was basically all I was saying I phrased it poorly so I understand your confusion.



There you go
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 20 2014 06:00 GMT
#1660
On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.


Answer my questions please, else I won't know what you meant for real in that post.

Did you find HF's case good, hence thought DP was scum at the point?

If yes, why did you tell DP to get off of you instead of being inquisitive/suspicious towards him? I would expect a townie to not ask his scumread to get off of him cause he would figure that he was being attacked out of malicious intent.

Giggletummy posted paint pictures and asked small questions to HF without getting to the core of his beef within 1 hour. That was also my beef with him until I saw his huge case post today.

Regarding that, I need to know whether you agree with the point GT brought up here:

However, the hopeless bit here is poop soup. In response to hopeless not jumping to vote DP and noting that Flare bussed a teammates in Cultured, Flare argues that hopeless is also mafia because, essentially, if Flare was town he's had good reads in the past and therefore must be right on DP, and if Flare is scum then he's got to be bussing DP. Either way, DP is scum, and so Hopeless should be agreeing with Flare, or at least voting DP - it's a good read or a bus.

The poop soupy part is that this statement is based on that idea that bussing one guy in one game = always bus never not bus. I have never seen anyone do that. Seriously look at this. Flare calls hopeless mafia based on reasoning that says "you said I bussed a guy one time, therefore you should be thinking I always and only bus teammates, and so my target has to be scum."


Do you think that saying : "Hey let's lynch this guy cause I say it and I'm always right cause I'm right as town and bus as scum" is a good reason to push a wagon?

Main reasoning about GT being scum in your filter is this:

So I think that after reading both cases I think GT is more scummy because HF to me seemed more town when the case was made than rayn did when DJo made his week one.


Which both cases?

Which case?

Are you basing your scumread on the fact that you disagree with the case?

Can you say what exactly you found good about VE's case?
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