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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:12 GMT
#2280
On March 10 2014 22:28 Palmar wrote:
oh and then he has a new list of scum

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin

and he voted you at some point.

so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course.

In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld.


yep, if you call someone scum you can't change your mind on them
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:14 GMT
#2281
On March 10 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You can call him bad.


I can't help it if people don't have reading comprehension.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:20 GMT
#2282
On March 11 2014 03:45 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 22:28 Palmar wrote:
oh and then he has a new list of scum

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin

and he voted you at some point.

so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course.

In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld.



this is the world that scares me, his paranoia this game early on led me to believe he was town, now it's just kinda cray cray and seems forced and pushy.


I haven't been paranoid this game

you still haven't cited an example of paranoia

now you're acknowledging stupid posts that are the literal definition of "logical fallacy"
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:22 GMT
#2283
On March 11 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:32 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't remember a single post from Grackaroni from the GSL game.
Again Robik, read my posts.
I have given a clear reasoning why i don't think he is mafia, many many times.

I read your points on Grack all game. I'm not sure I'm convinced. Let's assume Templar flips town, does anything change with regards to your Grack reads?

Also, 2 scenarios:

Temp flips town (2maf left)
Temp flips maf (1maf left)


Where are you heading in both cases?

What does it matter?
Are you trying to defend him based on what i think what happens after the lynch? wtf?

Why are you trying to make this something that it isn't? This is very clear. If you want to lynch someone other than templar make a better case and/or tell me why my case is bad and not just repeatedly dance around the issue.


I'm not trying to defend him. I do lean town on him for the reason that he's super paranoid and flip flopping on everything (which you find scummy). I don't know his alignment and therefore I'm nervous about lynching anyone. Even though I thought that Joey was scum, I didn't _KNOW_ that he was, and that's why I made the posts that I made with regards to him. The level of conviction your showing is disturbing and the fact that you're unwilling to analyze any other viable scenario is unhelpful and scummy. Making your thoughts on one person known is really easy to do as scum because you can focus on their posts and just tunnel on them. No matter what they flip, you can just make up a new read on another person the next day and you don't have to justify any of the statements you made earlier besides just saying "oh well, he was scummy, so it was a good lynch" if that person flips town.


apparently thinking out loud in this game and trying to share thought processes isn't allowed

you're just supposed to post "x is scum because y" or you're paranoid and flip flopping and calling everyone scum

wtf is wrong with people
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:28 GMT
#2284
On March 11 2014 04:04 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 03:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:49 boonetown wrote:
On March 11 2014 02:57 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn,

You still think I'm mafia and are pushing the notion that I could be mafia based off of "not pushing joey," so forgive me if I don't value your opinion highly this game. You're refusing to answer my question regarding that situation too.

Palmar/Grack makes sense
Grack/Boone makes sense
Boone/Rayn makes sense

GGTemp doesn't make sense to me with anyone at the moment.


List time:
Me
JAT
Slam


Boone/Temp/Dandelion


raynpelikoneet
Palmar
Grackaroni



why the hell am I in two of your possible mafia scenarios of 3, but not in your scum list?


Cause your claim makes you untouchable until mylo/lylo so you better fucking get a save. I've been discussing your claim a tad with Palmar in QT, but I don't want to discuss it here cause I thought that was a much more viable avenue for discussing a claim as opposed to doing it in thread.



can we take a moment to recognize that meta runs deep in the DM community and templar is the FIRST person on day 2 and D3 to mention that i should be dead and why aren't i dead and should be a lynch.

Templar is always paranoid over meta plays and shit like that.



@templar: why didn't you even question that i could be alive for the sole purpose of getting lynched as an alive medic. Instead you only mention that i should be dead, and should be lynched for being alive.


I entertain possibilities because they should be discussed at the very least because you can get reactions from people if nothing else

actually, the paranoid meta play here would be NOT lynching you and assuming that Grack/Dandel are mafia and WIFOM'd it

the level-headed play would be you're scum because you claimed medic 2 days ago and seem to think that you called out Grack/Dandel mafia and that they left you alive in the night, AS THE MEDIC, and still think they're mafia. you're the one being meta here and assuming that they WIFOM'd it

I have questioned it. I'm pretty sure everyone has. It's not really something that needs to be said.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:29 GMT
#2285
if you're actually the medic, you should probably re-evaluate your 1/2 scum of Grack/Dandel because they both probably aren't mafia at this point
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:29 GMT
#2287
unless they meta'd it like crazy which seems to be what you've suggested today with them still being your 1/2
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:33 GMT
#2290
On March 11 2014 04:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 04:22 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:32 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't remember a single post from Grackaroni from the GSL game.
Again Robik, read my posts.
I have given a clear reasoning why i don't think he is mafia, many many times.

I read your points on Grack all game. I'm not sure I'm convinced. Let's assume Templar flips town, does anything change with regards to your Grack reads?

Also, 2 scenarios:

Temp flips town (2maf left)
Temp flips maf (1maf left)


Where are you heading in both cases?

What does it matter?
Are you trying to defend him based on what i think what happens after the lynch? wtf?

Why are you trying to make this something that it isn't? This is very clear. If you want to lynch someone other than templar make a better case and/or tell me why my case is bad and not just repeatedly dance around the issue.


I'm not trying to defend him. I do lean town on him for the reason that he's super paranoid and flip flopping on everything (which you find scummy). I don't know his alignment and therefore I'm nervous about lynching anyone. Even though I thought that Joey was scum, I didn't _KNOW_ that he was, and that's why I made the posts that I made with regards to him. The level of conviction your showing is disturbing and the fact that you're unwilling to analyze any other viable scenario is unhelpful and scummy. Making your thoughts on one person known is really easy to do as scum because you can focus on their posts and just tunnel on them. No matter what they flip, you can just make up a new read on another person the next day and you don't have to justify any of the statements you made earlier besides just saying "oh well, he was scummy, so it was a good lynch" if that person flips town.


apparently thinking out loud in this game and trying to share thought processes isn't allowed

you're just supposed to post "x is scum because y" or you're paranoid and flip flopping and calling everyone scum

wtf is wrong with people

The only problem with this temp is that the only thinking out loud that you do is in HUGE analysis posts. If you're already typing out a huge wall of text, why don't you draw a conclusion before you post it?

Or just be like "this is scummy, this is towny, this is scummy, so overall i think this person is scum." You do things in an awkward way which makes it difficult to rationalize whether you're coming from a town or scum mindset (at least to me).

I am a huge proponent of stream of conscious posting, which is why I post a lot and which is why I may have posts that are contradictory...it's how I play video too. I react to situations as they occur...as I see them happen. You make long posts and try to make reactionary conclusions in a long post, which makes it sound fabricated.


Referencing my first big post D1, it was a catchup post.

would you people rather me not fucking explain my thought process and just ignore everyone who asked me to explain it? how the fuck is that more townie than explaining it? you'd probably just fucking ask me again later in the game anyways

You people thinking that first big post of mine was useless/fluff/pointless is pure incompetence.

how is it awkward to rationalize when I do it in fucking chronological order? it's literally the most logical way to do it.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:33 GMT
#2291
On March 11 2014 04:31 IAmRobik wrote:
FWIW, Dandelion looking more town today because he isn't going after me and seems to have reevaluated based off of the Killing flip. Which is both pro town and a really towny mindset.


what's the reverse of an OMGUS called?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:35 GMT
#2293
no that's different
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:50 GMT
#2295
I guess I have to try post like that if people can't fucking read
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 19:57 GMT
#2298
On March 11 2014 04:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Templar...I am starting to think your anger is reminiscent of your mafia play. I never see you get mad as town. You usually just sit back and don't give a fuck.


when the fuck have you ever even seen me angry in video mafia

wtf
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 20:02 GMT
#2299
my disposition here shouldn't even be alignment indicative for you robert

I've just adapted to my natural surroundings
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 22:48 GMT
#2331
I can't believe people like Rayn's arguments against me

half the "facts" in them aren't even true they're literally incorrect/falsified
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 22:49 GMT
#2332
as I pointed out
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 22:56 GMT
#2334
On March 11 2014 06:43 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 04:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:45 boonetown wrote:
On March 10 2014 22:28 Palmar wrote:
oh and then he has a new list of scum

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin

and he voted you at some point.

so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course.

In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld.



this is the world that scares me, his paranoia this game early on led me to believe he was town, now it's just kinda cray cray and seems forced and pushy.


I haven't been paranoid this game

you still haven't cited an example of paranoia

now you're acknowledging stupid posts that are the literal definition of "logical fallacy"


the way you have been voting, ten unvoting and calling everyone scum is semi-paranoid templar. but as i stated before, the fact that you haven't even thought about WHY i'm alive other than to say i shouldnt be and that i should be lynched because of it, is not the templar i'm used to. so i dont know what to do with you.


it feels like you're slow-rolling your inevitable read-flip on me with forced/crappy reasons so you don't get flak for voting me

you completely ignored all the content in the exchange between myself and Rayn with regards to how you are reading me and I still don't know what Palmar is smoking

also you keep bringing up that silly "how come you didn't question I was left alive just to be a misslynch"

If you're alive that's literally the only reason you were kept alive

No one seems to be pushing you though and the only people even mentioning your medic claim besides myself are Robik/Palmar going like "yea we shouldn't lynch her now if she's still alive later we will deal with it then" so if you are medic you really need to start focusing on content and stop giving meta-reads on DM players because you're setting yourself up to be a misslynch at mylo
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 23:01 GMT
#2337
On March 11 2014 07:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 07:56 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 11 2014 06:43 boonetown wrote:
On March 11 2014 04:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 11 2014 03:45 boonetown wrote:
On March 10 2014 22:28 Palmar wrote:
oh and then he has a new list of scum

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin

and he voted you at some point.

so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course.

In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld.



this is the world that scares me, his paranoia this game early on led me to believe he was town, now it's just kinda cray cray and seems forced and pushy.


I haven't been paranoid this game

you still haven't cited an example of paranoia

now you're acknowledging stupid posts that are the literal definition of "logical fallacy"


the way you have been voting, ten unvoting and calling everyone scum is semi-paranoid templar. but as i stated before, the fact that you haven't even thought about WHY i'm alive other than to say i shouldnt be and that i should be lynched because of it, is not the templar i'm used to. so i dont know what to do with you.


it feels like you're slow-rolling your inevitable read-flip on me with forced/crappy reasons so you don't get flak for voting me

you completely ignored all the content in the exchange between myself and Rayn with regards to how you are reading me and I still don't know what Palmar is smoking

also you keep bringing up that silly "how come you didn't question I was left alive just to be a misslynch"

If you're alive that's literally the only reason you were kept alive

No one seems to be pushing you though and the only people even mentioning your medic claim besides myself are Robik/Palmar going like "yea we shouldn't lynch her now if she's still alive later we will deal with it then" so if you are medic you really need to start focusing on content and stop giving meta-reads on DM players because you're setting yourself up to be a misslynch at mylo


Startlingly apropos


apropros?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 23:12 GMT
#2341
I dont get what you're saying then

"it's appropriate she gets misslynched if she keeps playing like this?"

also Slam can you unvote me yet because I'm town
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 23:13 GMT
#2343
On March 11 2014 08:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 07:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2014 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 11 2014 07:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Wwifomm

exactly! Why would I fuck over my meta!??!

...

WIFOM...

Yo slam, can we get a little more input? Who is scum? Who could be scum? Who is definitely not scum?

GGTeMpLaR is likely scum.

Palmar could be scum.

Boone is uncc'd blue

Iamrobik could be scum.

Rayn is town you are town.

...

Who else is left?


what
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 10 2014 23:13 GMT
#2344
unbold the JAT being town part, I agree with that bit
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