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raynpelikoneet
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 10 2014 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:While Robik had some good observations on Killing on D1 he did nothing to push a lynch on him, he just sat back with his vote. I'm being a bit selective -- you do go on to say that it's more likely to be him...but like, you're soft pushing and leaving doubt instead of taking a strong stance that I'm town. I shat all over Joey on D1 and I definitely did push his lynch for 2 straight days (maybe not heavily on d2, but that was my first post and the majority of my non-dandelion content). Why are you so unwilling to give me the credit? Again, I request, if you are town, to go read my filter (especially d1) and then put that Super Duper town check mark next to my name. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 05 2014 01:57 Grackaroni wrote: I don't like what Rayn has been saying so far. His whole Austin post was nonsense - Austin asked a question, he somehow flipped it into Austin being scum for defending boone. Austin didn't defend Boone and I wouldn't find it scummy even if he did defend Boone. On March 05 2014 02:42 Grackaroni wrote: Boone/Austin/Rayn actually wouldn't shock me. Rayn's Austin attacked seemed forced so that would make sense. Grack has some good posts on d1. Strangely enough, I like this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444554-foundation-mafia?page=59#1174 You guys have played a lot more with Grack than I have. Would he ever hard defend someone? I don't recall him taking a strong stance as town in the GSL game. This post doesn't have any flow to it as I was just picking some posts that grack made. If Grack is maf, I think Palmar is likely to be his teammate based off of their interactions. He asks people about palmar and kinda insinuates palmar could be mafia, but he never takes a stance on him. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 11 2014 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: But that's what you did. Regardless of how you say you play as town, and i don't think that's very townie. In GSL game you tried to lead lynches, in this game you are not. Maybe you are just more passive. I have no intention to read anyone's filter right now because i have a case but i do not think you are mafia with templar and your observations regarding Killing, regardless of what you did, were good. What do you consider pushing/leading lynches? I made the case and people voted him based off of it. I also tried to hammer the shit out of him. You're making no sense or just fabricating stuff. Rayn, even if you're right on Temp, you have to find 1 more scum. Why is it that you are unwilling to do that? You did the same tunnel bullshit on me yesterday until you finally switched to Joey. If I build a strong case on why Grack is mafia, would you entertain it or are you so sold on the Templar lynch? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Again Robik, read my posts.  I have given a clear reasoning why i don't think he is mafia, many many times. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On March 10 2014 08:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote: from the D1 QT where JAT convinced me that Dandel is likely town JAT you still hold true to Dandel being town in light of the Killing flip? No that's not true. Mafia last second switch because they panic. I've done it before; I think it's pretty common. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 11 2014 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't remember a single post from Grackaroni from the GSL game. Again Robik, read my posts. I have given a clear reasoning why i don't think he is mafia, many many times. I read your points on Grack all game. I'm not sure I'm convinced. Let's assume Templar flips town, does anything change with regards to your Grack reads? Also, 2 scenarios: Temp flips town (2maf left) Temp flips maf (1maf left) Where are you heading in both cases? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On March 10 2014 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Anyone who thinks i would kill Oats as scum is retarded. haha don't be an ass just because Oats got killed before you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 11 2014 03:21 IAmRobik wrote: What do you consider pushing/leading lynches? I made the case and people voted him based off of it. I also tried to hammer the shit out of him. You're making no sense or just fabricating stuff. Rayn, even if you're right on Temp, you have to find 1 more scum. Why is it that you are unwilling to do that? You did the same tunnel bullshit on me yesterday until you finally switched to Joey. If I build a strong case on why Grack is mafia, would you entertain it or are you so sold on the Templar lynch? Look Robik, i don't like this post. For a couple of reasons. I read people more from why they do things they do. I consider pushing a lynch that you actually try to convince people into why your case is better than the case on any other candidate. If there are two cases and someone does not give clear reasons why they vote one dude over another i consider that as not caring about the lynch. Noone of the Killing voters on D1 did try to really convince other people and pushed the case. That's my honest opinion. People voted for him and sat on their votes. That's what i saw when i read the thread and i hate myself for not being able to be here because if i was we would have lynched templar. I don't like you telling me i am fabricating stuff. If you make that kinda accusation please go to your filter and show me where are the posts where you convince people into voting Killing over VE when the votes started flying. Because you can't. I understand it's possible that's your playstyle but don't you dare to tell me i am fabricating stuff. I tell you and everyone what i see and what i think about it, and that's what i see. saying you tried to hammer is useless because you didn't. So if i am not making sense tell me where i am wrong. Because i am not. That does not mean you are mafia though. But don't tell me i am fabricating shit if you can't prove it because that IS scummy as fuck. Yes, if you make a case on Grackaroni that i think is better than my case i will vote for him instead of templar. I am perfectly capable of re-evaluating who is the best lynch based on cases there are. I miss stuff, i can't possibly notice everything, otherwise i would be lynching mafia 100% of the time. So please make a case and then we can discuss which case is better. This also leads me to this. If you defend someone then please, point out why my case is bad. Bad cases are bad for the town and everyone who is town should point out why a case is bad if they think it's bad. That's fucking simple, cut off bad cases asap so mafia has no room to hide and there are only good cases. Basic logic. I don't like the fact you repeatedly tell me Grack is a better lynch than templar but you can't point out why my case is bad nor are you even trying to make a case on Grack. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 11 2014 03:32 IAmRobik wrote: I read your points on Grack all game. I'm not sure I'm convinced. Let's assume Templar flips town, does anything change with regards to your Grack reads? Also, 2 scenarios: Temp flips town (2maf left) Temp flips maf (1maf left) Where are you heading in both cases? What does it matter? Are you trying to defend him based on what i think what happens after the lynch? wtf? Why are you trying to make this something that it isn't? This is very clear. If you want to lynch someone other than templar make a better case and/or tell me why my case is bad and not just repeatedly dance around the issue. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 11 2014 03:41 Dandel Ion wrote: Sickest case in the world: The last time grack even tried to make a post containing an actual contribution was 5 days ago. Fair enough. If Grack does not make a decent contributin in the next 24hours i will 100% switch my vote on him. | ||
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boonetown
Canada169 Posts
On March 10 2014 22:28 Palmar wrote: oh and then he has a new list of scum VE Dandelion Killing Austin and he voted you at some point. so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course. In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld. this is the world that scares me, his paranoia this game early on led me to believe he was town, now it's just kinda cray cray and seems forced and pushy. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On March 11 2014 03:41 Dandel Ion wrote: Sickest case in the world: The last time grack even tried to make a post containing an actual contribution was 5 days ago. Hey I'm just reading through the thread. I didn't say anything about that being a case. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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boonetown
Canada169 Posts
On March 11 2014 02:57 IAmRobik wrote: Rayn, You still think I'm mafia and are pushing the notion that I could be mafia based off of "not pushing joey," so forgive me if I don't value your opinion highly this game. You're refusing to answer my question regarding that situation too. Palmar/Grack makes sense Grack/Boone makes sense Boone/Rayn makes sense GGTemp doesn't make sense to me with anyone at the moment. List time: Me JAT Slam Boone/Temp/Dandelion raynpelikoneet Palmar Grackaroni why the hell am I in two of your possible mafia scenarios of 3, but not in your scum list? | ||
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boonetown
Canada169 Posts
On March 11 2014 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also doubt Grack would either, at least for Oats' reads. Oats is a major mislynch target for mafia when he is town and even if he isn't, he is quite incapable of convincing anyone to lynch his reads. My guess would be mafia thought he was a bluesnipe (definitely not the Sheldon guy - unless it's DM players who killed him lol). Anyways, it's just WIFOM. it's all the 3 DM boys i will die, lol | ||
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