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On March 10 2014 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know because you haven't done shit this game. This is also a cop-out answer.
I don't care if you say "scum", the point is I want to know where you're leaning right now.
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Palmar i can't answer you because i don't know the answer. If that does not please you there is nothing i can do about it. I don't do pre-flip association because they are shit. I don't know who is mafia besides templar and i don't have to think about it until he is lynched.
There are three things that are important, here they are (in order from most important -> less important): 1) His stance on Killing. Every time Killing was not under attack (after the start of the game) templar calls him mafia. When Killing is under attack someone else is mafia. See especially his reads on D1 and his "push" on Slam on D2 when the thread was discussing killing/grack. 2) His reads do not evolve rationally. He calls people town and mafia for same reason. He calls people who do same things he does mafia. His stances on people make absolutely no sense as i have pointed out many times. 3) When he's been called out he does not attack people's arguments rather than the people behind the arguments.
Now i am not going to switch my vote on this phase unless Dandel claims a red check on Grackaroni. If someone else claims to be the cop i don't believe them because they are lying either in thread or in the messages and that makes no sense from town perspective. I am not asking any more, now i am telling. To me it does not matter what templar says at this point, i have seen enough.
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tbh the first thing I noticed about templar's filter is that rayn actually looks okay in the quotes in it.
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rofl I'm an idiot. ##Vote GGTemplar
Rayn are you town?
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Fuck me if this works out we win this game
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On March 10 2014 17:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote: btw, 1000 townie points for whoever comes up with a reasonable solution to the first paragraph from that hairy sheldon guy ##Vote: Palmar See, I need you guys to elaborate on what reasons you have behind those in order to explain why you're wrong. There is literally no downside as town to expand upon your reasoning, as if I am mafia I will be unable to explain why I'm not. Because you are pushing town to do stuff you know is useless and they continue to fall for it
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On March 05 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
i. Alakascum
Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read.
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Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town.
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Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit.
huehue
These are from the same post. Rayn pointed it out day 1. Everyone is bad.
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On March 10 2014 22:19 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 17:16 Palmar wrote:On March 10 2014 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote: btw, 1000 townie points for whoever comes up with a reasonable solution to the first paragraph from that hairy sheldon guy ##Vote: Palmar On March 10 2014 11:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote: ##Vote: Palmar See, I need you guys to elaborate on what reasons you have behind those in order to explain why you're wrong. There is literally no downside as town to expand upon your reasoning, as if I am mafia I will be unable to explain why I'm not. Because you are pushing town to do stuff you know is useless and they continue to fall for it I no longer care why you think I'm scum
let's lynch templar.
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dude literally called slam town and scum in the same post.
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Rayn, isn't this the stance you took on me on d2?
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If you absolutely want and answer Palmar, those three people from town to mafia: 1) boone because of uncc'd medic 2) grack because he does not make sense as mafia with templar and i've never seen him play like this game as mafia 3) you because you have done as "much" as Grack but you don't get the + points (i've only seen you play mafia once (Thug life) and i didn't really pay attention to you after i decided you are mafia after your read on yamato).
I don't understand why you want this because even i know these kinda reads are crap now because we don't know templar's alignment for sure.
To answer your question about the vocal scumplayer, it's because as mafia Grack is perfectly capable of leading his team when he is the "best" (or strong or whatever, i know you get what i am saying) scumplayer in his team. The fact that he is not pushing any agenda and doesn't give a fuck indicates there would be another scum leader if Grack was mafia. The only people who have been vocal are me, JAT, Dandel, and Oats. I know i am town and i don't think JAT/Dandel are mafia and Oats is dead. That's the reason.
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No I don't care anymore rayn, I read your interactions with templar day 1. You're now town hero.
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On March 10 2014 22:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
i. Alakascum
Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read.
-snip-
Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town.
-snip
Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit. huehue These are from the same post. Rayn pointed it out day 1. Everyone is bad. To be fair he later on said "he explained his thought process on Slam read throughout the game" and that's why he wrote a scumread and townread on him in the same post. It kinda makes sense, what doesn't make sense is why he did it in the first place.
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On March 10 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 22:20 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
i. Alakascum
Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read.
-snip-
Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town.
-snip
Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit. huehue These are from the same post. Rayn pointed it out day 1. Everyone is bad. To be fair he later on said "he explained his thought process on Slam read throughout the game" and that's why he wrote a scumread and townread on him in the same post. It kinda makes sense, what doesn't make sense is why he did it in the first place.
His big post where he calls me/ve/dandel/boone scum is terrible too anyway.
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On March 10 2014 22:26 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 10 2014 22:20 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
i. Alakascum
Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read.
-snip-
Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town.
-snip
Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit. huehue These are from the same post. Rayn pointed it out day 1. Everyone is bad. To be fair he later on said "he explained his thought process on Slam read throughout the game" and that's why he wrote a scumread and townread on him in the same post. It kinda makes sense, what doesn't make sense is why he did it in the first place. His big post where he calls me/ve/dandel/boone scum is terrible too anyway. Well now you know why i am frustrated. I made a big fucking case based on that post on D1, nobody (besides Dandel) gave a fuck. templar didn't even answer the case but OMGUSed me instead. nobody gave a fuck about that either.
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oh and then he has a new list of scum
VE Dandelion Killing Austin
and he voted you at some point.
so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course.
In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld.
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On March 10 2014 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 22:26 Palmar wrote:On March 10 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 10 2014 22:20 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
i. Alakascum
Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read.
-snip-
Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town.
-snip
Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit. huehue These are from the same post. Rayn pointed it out day 1. Everyone is bad. To be fair he later on said "he explained his thought process on Slam read throughout the game" and that's why he wrote a scumread and townread on him in the same post. It kinda makes sense, what doesn't make sense is why he did it in the first place. His big post where he calls me/ve/dandel/boone scum is terrible too anyway. Well now you know why i am frustrated. I made a big fucking case based on that post on D1, nobody (besides Dandel) gave a fuck. templar didn't even answer the case but OMGUSed me instead. nobody gave a fuck about that either. What the hell man?
On March 06 2014 03:21 justanothertownie wrote:
I might just test rayn and sheep him on Templar.
On March 06 2014 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay now a serious question, is anyone entertaining the possibility of boone fakeclaiming here? Not without a counterclaim. Jat, why the fuck are you so reticent about giving reasons for ggtemp to be scum? Stop stalling and give reasons. No medic will counterclaim this unless he is retarded. For ggtemplar see rayns case for example. There is enough in the thread against him. Why can't you give me good reasons for him being town?
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"Might just test rayn and sheep him on templar" doesn't sound like you think the case is good.
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