I suppose the most logical conclusion is that we're both town or both Mafia. It'd be pretty weird if I removed the most lucrative mislynch target as scum....

Xatalos

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February 27 2014 23:20 GMT

#364

Ninja'd

Xatalos

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February 27 2014 23:24 GMT

#366

I'll be going to sleep now and hopefully there will be another Cop claim by the time I wake up. I don't really see scum winning this anyways without a fakeclaim (and even then it'd be quite difficult).

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:27 GMT

#416

Well, it seems like the game is basically solved already. Sylencia+Oats openly allied with each other in order to make a desperate last attempt at mislynching me today (and probably winning the game unless there's a lucky Doctor save). Sylencia is obviously Mafia and there's no way Oats would be 100% convinced I'm scum and try to get me lynched today if he were town. Luckily there are already 2 scum on the bandwagon so there's realistically
no way it'll succeed.

From my perspective, it would be best just to hammer Sylencia right now. Then I could probably check Oats just to be 100% sure. But I guess it doesn't really matter if one of us dies (unless there's a successful Doctor save) since the situation is pretty clear anyways and a town flip + another check would just make it even clearer. Sylencia's "check" might also reveal something (like it made Sn0_Man confirmed town today).

I'd be ready to move into night phase already.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:30 GMT

#417

On February 28 2014 15:15 Sylencia wrote:
At the moment, since the last members are:
Artanis, Oats and JJD

I think JJD is prob the last scum when looking at he association with Xatalos.

His logic after Xatalos claimed seemed really premediatated. Xatalos fake claims, JJD "baits" a response, claims the response is a fake claim. Thing is, it feels too obvious :\\\\\\\\\

Oats didn't feel obvious when he jumped into supporting you immediately after you claimed?

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:39 GMT

#421

On February 28 2014 10:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:

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I lied cause I wanted there to be a counter. I figured scum might not counter if everyone was all in on Xat being town.

Xat is 100% the cop because if he was scum he'd have no way to know Sn0 wouldn't be the actual cop which would immediately out Xat as the fake (cause he gave him a green check).

That logic make sense to everyone?

In fact, if I was scum with Sn0_Man, then it would make a lot of sense. But yeah, if I was scum and Sn0_Man town, then it wouldn't really make any sense at all (taking an unnecessary 25% chance of losing immediately for no real reason).

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:41 GMT

#422

What's the scumslip, if I may ask?

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:42 GMT

#423

On February 28 2014 17:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
where's your vote Xata?

What's the rush? Unless your time is running out...

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:45 GMT

#424

I think it's more like the real Cop expects to claim and scum hopes to get away without needing to fakeclaim.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:50 GMT

#428

My original intention was to wait until scum had made their moves (making them think that I had checked BH or something). Then I noticed everyone just kept assaulting poor Sn0_Man so I thought it would be more constructive to focus attention elsewhere.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:57 GMT

#430

What I meant is that it was a waste of effort to pile suspicions against Sn0_Man and mostly ignore other players when he was innocent.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 08:58 GMT

#431

And I did focus attention on you and Sylencia, clearly.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 09:01 GMT

#433

Btw I still don't see the supposed scumslip. I just said that the connection between Oats/Sylencia was much stronger than any connection between Xata/JJD.

Sigh, it seems so futile to argue with scum.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 09:02 GMT

#434

Zero effort? LOL. I've basically handed the scumteam to town on a silver platter. That's just ridiculous.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 09:09 GMT

#437

I don't think this really achieves anything.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 09:11 GMT

#438

But I'll have to say that surviving and pretty much clearing 3 townies by D1 isn't a bad achievement. Then it's just a process of elimination that the rest are scum.

Xatalos

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February 28 2014 09:14 GMT

#440

Besides, Sylencia had a classic newbie Mafia opening where he just talked about some "safe" policy stuff. And you, Oats, had a really weird strong townread on BH for the worst reason I've ever seen. So it's not even just process of elimination, but it helps.