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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 20 2014 14:30 GMT
#541
I don't particularly care. I don't see why anyone would be on anyone that isn't kosher or Toad atm, but of course there's nothing stopping them from you know... being useful.

I'm bored tbh, not much to do. Maybe I'll go read this Balla person
Computer says mafia
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 20 2014 14:31 GMT
#542
On February 20 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:24 Toadesstern wrote:
how about marv explains the things that freak out rayn about me and rayn explains the things freak out marv about me and we're all happy?
Because I have still no idea what's the issue with anything here and it's getting quite frustrating to state it over again even if someone else already pointed the exact same thing out before I got in here again and explains how it's just pisspoor wording?

You are asked a very clear question and you answer it by only referencing a small portion of the explanation. You didn't even read the whole post of mine or you are intentionally leaving out the portion that does not suit your "rayn is scum" agenda.

Both of the explanations are extremely scummy.

The entire post of yours works under the assumption "these are the only 3 options available", I clearly stated that's not how I saw it as there's more options and Palmar did so as well. Therefore I left out the useless part that didn't apply because the innitial assumption was flawed.

But fine, I'll guess this thing has to be mutual so I'll stop answering these things, do my thing and give you something later tonight... I'm off picking up my sis so afk for a while, that should cool me off a little
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 14:36 GMT
#543
But here is the thing. It's not that there are only three options (which is btw true in any case). Look at the options:
1) I am town and telling the truth about what i am saying here.
2) I am mafia and telling the truth about what i am saying here for some reason.
3) I am mafia and i am bullshitting here.

What other options there are? Because if you want to give another option it's "rayn is town and he is lying" which can't possibly be true.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 14:36 GMT
#544
rayn stop please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 20 2014 14:36 GMT
#545
The way you worded the initial question ignored the option I pointed out rayn.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 14:38 GMT
#546
Im fuckiong done with this shit because i am unable to write any fucking clear posts.
bye, my vote stands, see you aon D2.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2014 14:38 GMT
#547
If anybody is interested. I am pretty ok with Balla.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 14:39 GMT
#548
On February 20 2014 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Im fuckiong done with this shit because i am unable to write any fucking clear posts.
bye, my vote stands, see you aon D2.

It's nothing to do with being clear, it's to do with the fact that arguing further serves no purpose. Come back later.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 20 2014 14:41 GMT
#549
rayn are marv and I town?
Computer says mafia
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 20 2014 14:44 GMT
#550
Hi thread. About to head out for a few hours but I skimmed the thread.

On February 20 2014 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
suki keeps talking about this and he doesn't even think it's scummy. Why? Why keep talking about something that's not helping? Not only that, she keeps attacking the ONLY person who actually agrees with him on this (Balla). Why? She is also not looking about "why" instead of "what". Balla made it very clear why he said what he did and i totally get that. It's not really hard to see why if you read Balla's posts.


Okay, I kept talking about your policy because you kept bringing it up Rayn. You can't seriously be putting me as scum for that.

And I attacked Balla because of the WHY. Why is Balla not pressuring people, and instead spending the entire early game making statements about policy and agreeing with people? His return into the thread felt more like town Balla and I hope he comes back today and starts beating faces because if he doesn't then he is obviously playing his scum game.

Now, on to Koshi.

Koshi has been playing a really low key game. He's sheeping everywhere and not analyzing, not pressuring. Just because he says he's sheeping doesn't make it better.

On February 20 2014 20:09 Koshi wrote:
Paraphrased what happened:
1) suki trolling a shitton (no quotes)
2) Koshi asking suki if Balla is scum.
3) suki trolling
4) Koshi claiming to have reasons to why Balla is scum
5) suki also sees reasons to why Balla is scum. Votes Balla
6) Koshi claims he did not have any reasons to why Balla is scum.
7) suki bringing Balla up again, holding back the reasons to why.
8) Koshi + Balla ask why Balla is scum.
9) suki gives reasoning.

The Quotes↓
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 20 2014 08:57 Koshi wrote:
suki, I think balla is scum. Agree?


On February 20 2014 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 08:58 suki wrote:
@Koshi Only if Balla doesn't vote prplhz right this very second.

Why are you not interested in seeing what I am seeing?


On February 20 2014 09:09 suki wrote:
##unvote
##vote Balla24


Can we be best buddies


On February 20 2014 09:12 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 08:59 Koshi wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:58 suki wrote:
@Koshi Only if Balla doesn't vote prplhz right this very second.

Why are you not interested in seeing what I am seeing?


I thought you were seeing something so I looked and I thought I saw what you saw, but now you unvoted yourself.

Did you really see something or were you just making something up?


On February 20 2014 09:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:12 suki wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:59 Koshi wrote:
On February 20 2014 08:58 suki wrote:
@Koshi Only if Balla doesn't vote prplhz right this very second.

Why are you not interested in seeing what I am seeing?


I thought you were seeing something so I looked and I thought I saw what you saw, but now you unvoted yourself.

Did you really see something or were you just making something up?

Making stuff up.
I am serious because I can be.


On February 20 2014 09:17 suki wrote:
Koshi you should put your vote back on Balla.


On February 20 2014 09:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:17 suki wrote:
Koshi you should put your vote back on Balla.

I really shouldn't. I know we catch Balla ezpz if he is scum anyway. No need to pressure for no reason. Unless you want to share a reason.

I think you should.


On February 20 2014 09:22 suki wrote:
Balla is completely in policy talk mode and hasn't even tried to pressure anyone or start anything even though he is clearly here. He also is not playing light hearted like in the previous game where we bulldozed scum.


On February 20 2014 09:52 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:46 suki wrote:
I agree that finding a way to 'unvote' is stupid. I don't think it makes me lean scum or town on rayn either way.

So what do you think. Is that all you see in my posts? Because if it is and you are right then i am pretty surely mafia because i am not some random noob who says irrelevant stuff as town.


I think the reactions that are garnered from your stupid entry is a positive direction for town and that Balla's reaction to it specifically makes me think he is scum. As for you specifically, I think you can open this way as scum or town.


What do you think of this?

This is the entire conversation between suki and me. First sight I don't really have a problem with it but now that I reread it it feels like suki is holding information back from the thread. I don't see why she would do that and I do not remember her doing that at all in previous games.

Is it scum trying to milk a topic as long as possible to stay active? Because quite quickly after the reasoning she gave that Balla is scum and said she was quite serious about the accusations she went talking about rayn and his pro-town voting stuff and started defending herself against rayn his accusations.
I don't know that town that actually found scum would drop the scumread and would start talking policy stuff and would defend herself over pushing the scumread.


It feels off.


Koshi is misrepresenting me. He says I dropped my scumread. When did I do that? He's criticizing me for not hard pushing an early read and participating in the active discussion.

He's blowing off the fact that he asked me twice to look at Balla and then when I asked him if he had reasons he just backed down and that he was making things up.

On February 20 2014 20:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 20:27 Palmar wrote:
Koshi, top 3 lynch targets pls, and top 3 town reads


Not lynchable.
I'll say Kush not a lynch target atm because pretty smart play, like instantly going against rayn on prplhz and other people actually saw same things.
Also rayn cuz we are buds.
marv cuz marv.
Palmar I guess.

lynchable
People marv feels strongly about being scum.
People rayn feels strongly about being scum & he made a case with multiple points on. Those are mostly actually scum.
sidesprang if he doesn't play.
suki and Balla if they plan on playing "the I am so impressed by this playerpool and I won't post my own thoughts" game. As I feel that might be happening.
Oats because jayB replaced out cuz he rolled scum.


The other people I didn't pay too much attention to.


His reads on people have no effort put into them. He's calling random people town for no reason and people scum for no reason. He's saying Balla and I might be intimidated by the player pool as if it's scummy and yet he's not only not posting his thoughts he's just sheeping the strong players in the thread.

I know Koshi hates rolling scum and doesn't feel like playing when he's scum. I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping.

##unvote
##vote Koshi


Regarding toad, I agree that he was back tracking, and I think he's being way too defensive about what he said. His contributions have been nil to this game. All he's done is defend himself against rayn. Who are his scum reads? Why isn't he pressuring anyone? I support the lynch on him and will switch my vote to make it happen at the end of the day.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2014 14:45 GMT
#551
##unvote
##vote suki

Haven't read the case yet. I will do so now.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 14:48 GMT
#552
On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote:
I know Koshi hates rolling scum and doesn't feel like playing when he's scum. I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping.

suki, explain to me how this is more likely to come from mafia than town, please.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2014 14:49 GMT
#553
Read the case. I am ok with my vote.
Another Koshi hates scum and I feel it in his posts he hates this game so yeah he is scum case. I almost can't believe scum suki would make such a case but yeah, I thought the same thing about WoS in survivor and I was wrong.


Hopefully you will bring the full analytical posting out now suki. Because you haven't done anything more than me. I hope you understand that.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 14:51 GMT
#554
##unvote
##vote suki
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 14:52 GMT
#555
On February 20 2014 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote:
I know Koshi hates rolling scum and doesn't feel like playing when he's scum. I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping.

suki, explain to me how this is more likely to come from mafia than town, please.

also read the last sentence in suki's post.
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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 20 2014 14:56 GMT
#556
From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi.

This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1.

Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations.

Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons.

I'll be back later.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 20 2014 14:57 GMT
#557
On February 20 2014 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote:
I know Koshi hates rolling scum and doesn't feel like playing when he's scum. I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping.

suki, explain to me how this is more likely to come from mafia than town, please.

also read the last sentence in suki's post.


I don't see anything alignment indicative in that last sentence.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 20 2014 14:57 GMT
#558
On February 20 2014 23:56 suki wrote:
From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi.

This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1.

Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations.

Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons.

I'll be back later.


I think your case is terrible.

I think prplhz's case was much better.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 14:57 GMT
#559
On February 20 2014 23:56 suki wrote:
From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi.

This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1.

Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations.

Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons.

I'll be back later.

Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 20 2014 14:59 GMT
#560
On February 20 2014 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:56 suki wrote:
From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi.

This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1.

Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations.

Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons.

I'll be back later.

Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?


I'm too lazy to go check but I'm very certain I've often seen mafia openly admit to sheeping.
Computer says mafia
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