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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 14:59 GMT
#561
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him.
Kush and Vivax
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 14:59 GMT
#562
On February 20 2014 23:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2014 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote:
I know Koshi hates rolling scum and doesn't feel like playing when he's scum. I think he is scummy because he is not analyzing people, not pressuring people and generally just calling people scum or town randomly and making it known he's going to be sheeping.

suki, explain to me how this is more likely to come from mafia than town, please.

also read the last sentence in suki's post.


I don't see anything alignment indicative in that last sentence.

One of the reasons Koshi is mafia is because he says he'll sheep me or marv because he thinks we are town. suki makes a case on Koshi and in the end says she'll sheep onto Toad at the end of the day.

makes sense how?
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#563
On February 20 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
On February 20 2014 23:56 suki wrote:
From my previous experience with Koshi, these posts are more likely to come from scum Koshi than town Koshi.

This is just off the top of my head because I've gotta go in 10 mins. In Shadowed: The Reboot, Koshi was town and he was active from the start, putting down votes, pressuring, calling out contraditions. In the original Shadowed game, he just talked random shit and wasn't interested in making reads for at least the first part of Day 1.

Koshi's behaviour makes me feel like he's not interested in finding who is scum but is just happy to sheep. Regardless of my meta read on him, his contributions to this thread haven't been more than sheeping and weak accusations.

Also Koshi I have definitely done more than you this game. At the very least my reads have reasons.

I'll be back later.

Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?


I'm too lazy to go check but I'm very certain I've often seen mafia openly admit to sheeping.

Preemptive sheeping rather than sheeping after the event?

Not something I remember really.

Mafia don't usually announce "I am going to sheep!" - they will usually just do so on the down low.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#564
On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote:

1) Koshi is misrepresenting me. He says I dropped my scumread. When did I do that? He's criticizing me for not hard pushing an early read and participating in the active discussion.

2) He's blowing off the fact that he asked me twice to look at Balla and then when I asked him if he had reasons he just backed down and that he was making things up.

About this part:

1) I am not saying that you dropped your scumread. I am saying that you were quite positve on a scumread on Balla. But that instead of persuing this scumread you went and talked about rayn his plan being pro-town. On which you were called out on and then you defended yourself.

2) Yes, I did ask you to look at Balla because you were not being serious till then and I wanted to see if you could be serious. You blew me off the first time responding that Balla was only scum if he didn't vote prplhz. Because there still wasn't a serious answer I pressed further and I pretended I had a legit reason to why Balla was scum. After I said this you played serious and you did look into Balla and you found a reason to why he was scum and voted him without stating this reason. Then I said I was bluffing and didn't have a reason to why Balla is scum. To which you replied that I should vote Balla but again you didn't give a reason. Then I asked about this reason and you gave it to me. At this point I was no longer interested in Balla but I was interested in you. However, I didn't vote both because I was sleepy.


In conclusion. I don't see why I am scummy for that paragraph in your case btw. It looked quite obvious to what was going on.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 15:00 GMT
#565
On February 20 2014 23:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
eh ill bet anyone toad is town. I dont really get marv's case against him. He's a lynch bait player isn't he? lynch bait players usually look less scummy as town. Plus I don't like the people pushing him.

Who in particular?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#566
rayn i nparticular.
Kush and Vivax
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#567
Can you tell me why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#568
didnt wan tto say that tho because i dont have time now to make a case. now rayn knows and he is going to change his play.. gj marv
Kush and Vivax
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 15:02 GMT
#569
If you didn't want to say, then you shouldn't have said something that needed explaining, should you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 15:03 GMT
#570
that specific part didnt need to be specified to explain why toad is a bad lynch.
Kush and Vivax
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 15:03 GMT
#571
On February 20 2014 23:41 Palmar wrote:
rayn are marv and I town?

marv pretty much yes, you idk yet.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 15:05 GMT
#572
I wonder why Oats isn't playing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 15:05 GMT
#573
rayn what specifically made you flip flop on toad?
Kush and Vivax
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 15:06 GMT
#574
On February 21 2014 00:05 VIVAX420 wrote:
rayn what specifically made you flip flop on toad?

I am honestly not interested in answering any of your questions because it does not achieve anything.
dealwithit.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 15:07 GMT
#575
The reason is whatever i say regardless of your alignment you say stupid stuff about me and until that stops there is no reason to interact with you kush. It's been a trend in the past ~5 games and it only makes me angry and it does not serve any purpose so i'll just ignore you.
table for two on a tv tray
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 20 2014 15:15 GMT
#576
can someone else ask rayn why exactly he flip flopped on toad in response to no new information?
Kush and Vivax
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 20 2014 15:18 GMT
#577
[B]On February 20 2014 23:57 marvellosity
Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?


Posting from my phone

So if someone open about sheeping that somehow makes it better?

What are your reads on koshi marv? Do you dispute my claim that his contributions have been shitty this game?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2014 15:19 GMT
#578
The answer is:
He didn't like suki case and in particular the last line. But it didn't impact his read on Toad at all, he is just voting to show where his loyalty lies, which is town (and Koshi), and he thinks suki is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 20 2014 15:20 GMT
#579
On February 21 2014 00:18 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On February 20 2014 23:57 marvellosity
Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?


Posting from my phone

So if someone open about sheeping that somehow makes it better?

What are your reads on koshi marv? Do you dispute my claim that his contributions have been shitty this game?

Town do egregious or bad things all the time, and they're usually a lot more open and brazen about it than mafia because they don't care. Mafia will try to dress up stuff with a veneer of respectability of usefulness and such. That's mafia 101. So yes, it does make it better, and it should be abundantly obvious why.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2014 15:22 GMT
#580
On February 21 2014 00:18 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On February 20 2014 23:57 marvellosity
Since when do mafia openly state they will sheep? Have you ever come across that?

Can you provide evidence of mafia-Koshi doing that like he has in this game?


Posting from my phone

So if someone open about sheeping that somehow makes it better?

What are your reads on koshi marv? Do you dispute my claim that his contributions have been shitty this game?

You say shitty but it could be translated into "hasn't found scum yet" while he did last game. I am trying to find scummers. I am not shitposting and trying to prevent scumhunting.

I was confusing 3 peepz cuz I agreed with rayn but that's really it.
I had a good night of sleep.
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