[M][N] Default Suspicions Mafia - Page 27

On February 20 2014 10:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1) I am town and this is my thought process; I misunderstood the setup as i have already explained and thought the votes from previous days are added to the current days votes. That's why i made my plan in the first place. Now this would have been the most pro-town plan because i would have later on brought up the fact that we should treat this as a majority lynch and at the end of the day people who are not in the majority wagon put their votes on themselves. In that way we would have eliminated any cons for the town in setup we possibly can, which is pretty much everything other than the randomness which we can't eliminate.

However, that was not the case. Now, i still stand behind my "if you "unvote", vote yourself" plan because of this. If we do not push this policy it leads to possibly stupid and irrelevant questions like "you don't think this dude is scum anymore, why is your vote still on him?". We don't want that because we benefit from clarity and it's beneficial we know exactly WHEN and WHY people drop their scumreads and where they head next. If they don't have next target they should inform that by voting for themselves. This prevents mafia from misrepresenting people because you can always back up your thoughts with your actions in thread (most importantly voting). Having no possibility to unvote is pro-mafia, if you't agree with that you need to explain me why. It's never irrelevant where your vote is at.

[.....]

If what i was doing was (1), then i am town.
If what i was doing is (2), you can't tell my alignment.
If what i was doing is (3), then you are saying i am some random noob which this post already proves i am not because i would have came up with a decent explanation on the fly.

So again, why am i mafia? Especially prplhz and Toad?

On February 20 2014 10:40 Toadesstern wrote:
@rayn: Can't be #1 because I have no idea how someone could have come to that conclusion based on the phrasing from our lovevly host. Can't be #2 either for same reason. Therefore I was asking myself if it's #3, #4 the "I'm paranoid" or #5 the "I'm missing something"

On February 20 2014 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So why do you think i am mafia Toad?

On February 20 2014 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't dance around the issue and make a clear case.

On February 20 2014 11:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Foolishness told me in pm's to wait a little longer and not just claim d1 to get him lynched
Your explanation is possible, that's the sad thing here.

On February 20 2014 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here is what happened:
Toad: "you are mafia because of X"
Me: "This is why i said X from every perspective. #1 i am town and this is why i said it..."
Toad: "Well #1 can't be true"
Some random shit happens here.
Me: So do you think i am mafia or not?
Toad: Not necessarily because #1 can be true.

So this fucking shit does not make any sense to me because Toad is changing his mind based on nothing relevant to the discussion. I especially asked, based on my reasoning "which is it". Here, is this question so unclear Toad can possibly twist it into something stupid:



[.... here is where some random shit happens.....]



Now, there MUST BE SOMETHING BETWEEN THE RED PARTS that makes Toad change his mind.
What is it?

On February 20 2014 23:20 Toadesstern wrote:

Dude I just told you that the first red part you quoted is talking about my stance on you BEFORE you did that giant post explaining it and that the giant post you did is the thing that changed my mind. Do you just not believe it or do you ignore that? Because if you put it in that order it makes an awful lot of sense.

On February 20 2014 23:22 Koshi wrote:

3 people find this a problem. hmm.

The first time I might have thought we all voted ourselves to show neutrality. But then he start talking about standard votes and I might have been confused for moment.

On February 20 2014 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So in the first red part Toad answers to half of my post and reaches into conclusion "this is really scummy".
When i press it further he answers the rest of the post and reaches into conclusion "not so scummy any more".

Now, who the fuck answers only the parts of a post that suit his agenda? mafia.

On February 20 2014 23:24 Toadesstern wrote:
how about marv explains the things that freak out rayn about me and rayn explains the things freak out marv about me and we're all happy?
Because I have still no idea what's the issue with anything here and it's getting quite frustrating to state it over again even if someone else already pointed the exact same thing out before I got in here again and explains how it's just pisspoor wording?

On February 20 2014 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
Ok. marv's proposal:

I don't think we're going to get any further with Toad on this. How about we leave him be and let him scumhunt and do his thing in peace for a while. I think that'll be more useful than keep going over the same things that aren't going to change no matter how much we talk about them.