I'm guessing a setup nomination to get rid of me. Completely nonsensical people being put up.

On top of this, if WoS/Palmar are scum I'm screwed since I've given them hall passes on buddying me in an attempt to not be uber paranoid.

Something that hurts: Rayn the Relentless hasn't said as many nice things about me as usual this game :/ <3

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 10 2014 18:42 GMT

#1063

Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me.

Grackaroni

United States9856 Posts

February 10 2014 18:43 GMT

#1064

Oooh now shits going down.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 10 2014 18:44 GMT

#1065

On February 11 2014 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn you've been calling me scum this whole cycle. Forgive me if I take EVERYTHING you say with a grain of salt.

Let's assume this is true. If i call you scum is it a reason to not listen to anything else i say? How is this a decent town play? You know townies can be wrong, is it a reason to tell them to fuck off and not read a single post of theirs? VE that's what gets you lynched. I'll try to be clear. I am not sure if you are mafia. I am not sure if you are town. I want to figure it out now, as you are here. So could you please talk to me? I am trying to get out of my unreasonable tunnel shitfest play and it's not working quite well as people like you and Oats (no offence, but still..) make it so hard for me to not rage.

So, forget about my read on you for a while if you are town and talk to me okay?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 10 2014 18:46 GMT

#1066

On February 11 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me.

Fair enough. You are right you gave reasoning before you voted for him.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 10 2014 18:47 GMT

#1067

I am talking to you - if you're on the cusp of rage that's your thing, not mine. I never said I wouldn't talk to or listen to you. I said I'd take everything you say with a grain of salt - meaning that because I'm a scumread of yours, you're obviously not going to be talking to me about your real scumreads and you're only trying to get me to "slip" or whatever and everything you say has a sole purpose of getting me lynched whenever the opportunity arises.

So rage on friend. It makes literally zero difference to me. If you're town then perhaps your rage will make you see things differently.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 10 2014 18:48 GMT

#1068

What i didn't like in your D1 play VE is that you didn't seem to be interested in who is getting lynched at all. That's what it looks to me. My problem is not many people in total did gave any fucks about anything at all, and i am trying to figure out why.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 10 2014 18:49 GMT

#1069

On February 11 2014 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE do you think Grack is scum?

On February 11 2014 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so, you didn't know if Grack is town or scum and you still have no idea about it afaik(??)
Why is Palmar's vote fishy? Why couldn't mafia!Palmar just have pushed his case on geript instead of putting his vote on Cora?

Could you answer these posts when you have read Grack?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 10 2014 18:52 GMT

#1070

Well rayn, I'm chalking it up to "It's D1". I gave a fuck who was lynched, but I wasn't around for the shennanigans. It's explicit in my post that I had reservations about the lynch. That you're lumping me in with people who "don't give a fuck who was lynched" is wrong. Like, unfairly wrong.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 10 2014 18:53 GMT

#1071

And yes, after I read Grack I will answer those questions.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

February 10 2014 19:03 GMT

#1072

Okay, thanks. As i said i don't hold that against you more than i hold it against any other people. Also i am gonna go play BW with Artanis for some time so if anyone wanna join in laughing to us feel free to.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 10 2014 19:05 GMT

#1073

Okay I read Grack. I still have no idea what I think of his alignment. He does things like claims scum and talk to people like they're his scumbuddies, and I THINK that speaks of a townGrack? But like I said before, I've had a zero percent correct read rate on Grack so I honestly have no idea.

Palmar's stance on Cora is fishy because he literally says "I would lynch again knowing he's town". Like, saying something like that makes me think he knew he was town BEFORE the lynch - and he SHOULD HAVE known because of the ease of the wagon. So whether he's scum and knows that Cora is town when he votes for him or he's town and knows that Cora is town when he votes for him, I don't like it either way.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

February 10 2014 19:08 GMT

#1074

Like I think a town-aligned Palmar would have gritted his teeth and voted for someone who he thinks is scum in that situation. A town-aligned Palmar would have recognized that the wagon was shite when everyone was all about it and voted for someone likely to be scum. Why?

There are a disproportionately large number of scum in this game. That means that easy wagons are EVEN MORE fishy, and that a D1 scum lynch is EVEN MORE important.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

February 10 2014 19:09 GMT

#1075

On February 11 2014 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay I read Grack. I still have no idea what I think of his alignment. He does things like claims scum and talk to people like they're his scumbuddies, and I THINK that speaks of a townGrack? But like I said before, I've had a zero percent correct read rate on Grack so I honestly have no idea.

Palmar's stance on Cora is fishy because he literally says "I would lynch again knowing he's town". Like, saying something like that makes me think he knew he was town BEFORE the lynch - and he SHOULD HAVE known because of the ease of the wagon. So whether he's scum and knows that Cora is town when he votes for him or he's town and knows that Cora is town when he votes for him, I don't like it either way.

So forced.