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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 10 2014 19:28 GMT
#1081
On February 11 2014 04:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT YOU PEOPLE MEAN WHEN YOU SAY THINGS JESUS FUCKING CHRIST


Why are you angry at this? Just make them explain themselves to get a better picture.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 10 2014 19:29 GMT
#1082
On February 11 2014 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you mean Risen?

On February 11 2014 04:13 Koshi wrote:
That it is a long stretch.

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 10 2014 19:29 GMT
#1083
Because I JUST asked Risen to explain his own comment in further detail, then Koshi came in and did the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 10 2014 19:30 GMT
#1084
I don't understand what the stretch is - expecting town Palmar to play like town Palmar? That's not a stretch at all.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 10 2014 19:32 GMT
#1085
"Palmar's stance on Cora is fishy because he literally says "I would lynch again knowing he's town"."

What's scummy about saying that? I'm saying it's a stretch to call that scummy. Looks like you're grasping for something that isn't there. Looks like you're trying to be in the thread without doing anything.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 10 2014 19:32 GMT
#1086
On February 11 2014 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I JUST asked Risen to explain his own comment in further detail, then Koshi came in and did the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING.


But it's "not so towny anymore" when i force people to explain their actions?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 10 2014 19:32 GMT
#1087
He's saying it's a stretch to believe that Palmar saying he would lynch Cora again knowing that he is town implies that Palmar already knew he was town.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 10 2014 19:36 GMT
#1088
On February 11 2014 03:39 Risen wrote:
I'm guessing a setup nomination to get rid of me. Completely nonsensical people being put up.

On top of this, if WoS/Palmar are scum I'm screwed since I've given them hall passes on buddying me in an attempt to not be uber paranoid.

Something that hurts: Rayn the Relentless hasn't said as many nice things about me as usual this game :/ <3

Catching up, but there are so many things that are just flat out wrong that so many people have said about me.
I've already asked you this, but where am I buddying you? Giving you a townread != buddying.

As far as the Koshi read goes, fuck it. Nobody even bothers responding to anything I wrote and are just calling me scum now so I guess I'll just drop it, but can somebody at least do me the simple fucking courtesy of explaining what exactly makes Koshi town that ISN'T people's townread on Slam?

Inc: list of things that stood out/pissed me off during reread, and updated reads.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 10 2014 19:41 GMT
#1089
On February 11 2014 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
Im response to the wave post after I went to bed. I want people to explain their votes that were unexplained. I don't know anything about someone who unvotes and votes with nothing in their filter saying why. Regardless of whether cora flipped mafia or town this holds true. I wanted people to respond before the flip actually happened because maybe their responses would be more alignment indicative.

For everyone else, wave's long post is really odd. His scum read was koshi but then when koshi "lied" about wave's case wave made that giant post that said nothing other than koshi totes lying and here's why. It was a colossal defence post ment to implicate koshi. He then asked me for conclusions from my questioning about whether people were town or not before nominations occur and it's not our lynch phase.

Both he and grack have almost no mention of cora wagons as far as i remember (grack definitely doesn't after i questioned him). Will post more when I'm back from uni, hold tight.

Marv was town like halfway through day 1 by the way, why did you take so long to notice? He was asking about people, pointing out things and being agreeable with that touch of marv ego assholeishness.

Thank you for at least responding to me, hours later.
I I disagree with your assessment of my Koshi case, because him lying about what I'm saying is only part of it, btu whatever under duress of fucking everybody in thread and nobody caring, I suppose I have to drop it, don't I if I actually want to be useful to town in some way?

Are you referring to me when you ask about marv being town? I don't give a shit about marv's ego; yes he is in all likelihood town but just because he does things that fit his 'marv town meta' doesn't mean he is not aware of what that is.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 10 2014 19:45 GMT
#1090
lying is big word. Your case is wrong anyway at least the conclusion.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 10 2014 19:48 GMT
#1091
On February 11 2014 02:06 marvellosity wrote:
I wish Palmar would stop pushing weird things.

INTERLUDE. TERRIBLE META COMPARISON OF THE DAY:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 01:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why does it feel like you're the only one who's ever around for me to interact with marv?

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fuck this I probably should just assume marv is town every game and just lick his asshole because he's often the only one that bothers to read anything I write.

On February 11 2014 02:29 Palmar wrote:
Best use of meta I've seen.

I'm totally off the WoS=town wagon now.

Is this a fucking bait?
Because just tell me now so I don't rage even harder than I'm about to. I HATE being baited.
Are you REALLY using meta on me from almost a YEAR ago that not only proves absolutely nothing and ignores all circumstances of the games in which they take place, but also completely ignores my evolving reads on you in the games we've played together since?

Like last time someone pulled this terrible meta shit completely unabashedly it was scum Palmar in Thug life, and hey, what do you know, Palmar is here agreeing with marv for some ungodly reason.

Like...I really don't understand the point of this nor do I even think I fully understand the meta comparison you're trying to make.

Am I overreacting and is this a joke? Because if so I'm not sure I get it.

On February 11 2014 02:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 11 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 11 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, one thing. Look at geript's post where he says he has a town read on you and that he needs to look into my posts. Does it make sense to you? Afaik we have been pretty much on the same page, and geript has relied heavily on met areads in this game. Therefore i see no logic in those statements from town!pov, given especially the setup and the phase that's coming up where scum need to break up "town circles" in case they wanna get rid of strong players and/or cast doubt on D2 lynch in the first place.

I'll be back in ~15, sauna the best. <3

Could you be a little more specific? I mean, you're not me and I'm not you. It's possible for someone to have a townread on me and not you and vice versa I suppose. And to people who aren't me and maybe only one or two others, you're more sneaky scum than I am :> No offence to geript, but him saying "I want to look at rayn" has about zero thread impact, it probably just means he wants to look at rayn.

Also Palmar thinks geript is mafia which makes geript very likely to be town.

If he thinks you are town, given the meta between us don't you think he would think you have a decent read on me?
Like you called me scum for my first post in the last game and called me scum in the end of D1 in the game before the last game i was scum and you were town in.

Meh, maybe? It seems a lot less egregious than Wave ignoring what we think on Koshi, for example. I've never explicitly called you town this game I don't think either, I've just treated you that way mostly, which is more subtle and for people not-us isn't totally evident, and perhaps even if it was evident he'd like to have his own opinion.

IM IGNORING WHAT YOU THINK BECAUSE NNOBODY HAS GIVEN ME A REASON, YOU JUTST SAY SHIT LIKE THIS

On February 10 2014 22:18 marvellosity wrote:
You can hide behind me if you like, he'll hate that.


Do you have any idea how frustrating this shit is for me? It's making this game completely unenjoyable to simply be ridiculed and ignored and now on top of that people are calling me scum for shit I don't understand and hasn't been explained thoroughly.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2014 19:49 GMT
#1092
In sake of fairness, it's actually quite uncharacteristic for me to accept a wagon I don't feel good about. generally I'm all like "I never vote townies, no compromises". so VE isn't wrong.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2014 19:51 GMT
#1093
no joke waveofscum. the jig is up
Computer says mafia
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 10 2014 19:53 GMT
#1094
Is wave's voice play that much different than his voice play?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 10 2014 19:53 GMT
#1095
EBWOP: Forum play vs voice
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 10 2014 19:54 GMT
#1096
In other news, I think geript is scum.
On February 10 2014 22:26 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 22:18 marvellosity wrote:
You can hide behind me if you like, he'll hate that.

You just made me snort decaf coffee out of my nose. Thank you dear.

Posts like this, the 'wubbybumpkins,' they're all whatever but the emotional gamut geript has run in this game strikes me as extremely fucking odd. Rages when under pressure, completely jovial when not and trying to get people on his side through emotional appeal...it's just such WEIRD play.
On February 10 2014 23:35 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 10 2014 23:31 geript wrote:
Because for you I need to look at how and when you pushed things in the thread and where thread sentiment was going and then look at those people. And Vayne because I don't feel like I've gotten to a satisfactory point on him.

I am mostly interested in why you need to loo kat me over yamato who did the exact same things than me on D1 except that i actually got my target lynched and he didn't really seem like he cared for the most of the D1.

Because I've played more with you than I have with him and feel like from voice I can get a solid read on you.

I think this was pointed out already but that's just a horrible post. Voice !=forum. Like ever.
On February 10 2014 23:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 10 2014 23:34 geript wrote:
On February 10 2014 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is Wave your "townbuddy" because his top scumread seems to be Koshi which is totally different from your reads geript?

Bc wave and I have history and at a specific point i get an exact understanding of where he's at. Like Marv/VE or you/Koshi. I just think he's wrong on Koshi.

So you just let him be wrong about Koshi and don't really give a shit?
But i might be scum because i am right on Koshi?
On February 10 2014 23:35 geript wrote:
On February 10 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 10 2014 23:31 geript wrote:
Because for you I need to look at how and when you pushed things in the thread and where thread sentiment was going and then look at those people. And Vayne because I don't feel like I've gotten to a satisfactory point on him.

I am mostly interested in why you need to loo kat me over yamato who did the exact same things than me on D1 except that i actually got my target lynched and he didn't really seem like he cared for the most of the D1.

Because I've played more with you than I have with him and feel like from voice I can get a solid read on you.

Well this is quite bullshit because trying to compare voice mafia meta to forum mafia meta is bad and never holds any water..

I let him do his thing on Koshi because my time is pretty limited 1 so my ability to read thoroughly is down, because he should read me as obv town by now (and at least consider my opinion), because our schedules haven't seemed to align yet and because Wave needs the back and forth. Besides, at no point has Koshi ever been under any actual realistic lynch potential. I really don't get why you'd expect me to protect a townread when there's no chance of him being lynched right now.

No, I think you might be scum because of how/when you pushed things. With you I need to go into more depth in a read than just filters. And yes, while voice doesn't transfer over 100% I don't think it's a 0% rate either. Like you make conscientious attempts to protect your scum bros until they're Unsalvageable.

Here's the thing Rayn, everybody is letting me do my thing on Koshi and NOBODY gives a shit. That's not what makes geript scummy. He assumes I should read him as obvtown right now and he hits the points that he thinks will appeal to me (ie me needing the back-and-forth)---all emotional and 'feels'-type appeals and nothing concrete. There is zero reason why I should have geript as town right now based on his blatant buddying of me.

And I think somebody asked why I haven't buddied VE either? Gotta find that post, but 'cause no townfeels from him this game. Not even close to what I got in Shadow game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 10 2014 19:56 GMT
#1097
On February 11 2014 04:53 Risen wrote:
Is wave's voice play that much different than his voice play?

You can't compare voice to forum Risen. They're completely different media---the reads I come up with in voice are impossible to do in forum where you have as long as you need to plan stuff out, post, and show as little or as much emotion as you need to.

Palmar, stop taunting me and explain yourself.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 10 2014 19:59 GMT
#1098
On February 11 2014 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I JUST asked Risen to explain his own comment in further detail, then Koshi came in and did the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING.

VE are you town?
Tell me straight up.

People fucking TALK to me
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 10 2014 20:08 GMT
#1099
On February 11 2014 04:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I JUST asked Risen to explain his own comment in further detail, then Koshi came in and did the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING.

VE are you town?
Tell me straight up.

People fucking TALK to me

Yes man I'm town just read my posts. They're literally dripping with townie goodness.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 10 2014 20:13 GMT
#1100
On February 11 2014 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or don't. Whatever, I'm making porkchops so I should be back in ~72 hours.

Can you talk or is the above true?

If so, mebbe talk to me about Grack. I have some feels going on and I want to see if anyone else has them.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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