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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 19 2014 09:13 GMT
#3481
That first nomination could have been Risen/geript/Oats. geript lives in that nomination approximately 90% of the time. He then becomes soft confirmed town the rest of the game. He plays a mean soft-confirmed town too, except that he replaced out.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 19 2014 09:15 GMT
#3482
Except then we're trading "soft-confirming" geript (which is debatable) for the life of one of Rayn/Marv/Palmar AND losing a person we want to mislynch on a regular day.
Writer@WriterYamato
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 19 2014 09:18 GMT
#3483
Like I would have put NONE of the top townie players this game in the nomination, because ALL of them are capable of looking relatively townie as scum. All of them. And they all know it, but they're all town so they don't all /know/ it.

That's what I would have done anyway. What you guys did was cool too.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 09:25:20
February 19 2014 09:21 GMT
#3484
Why on a regular day? In my fictional scum fairytale we're putting your "regular mislynch" players in the Nominations. You want to mislynch the good townies on regular days. We're talking about scum who are playing proactively, not the lurky bullshit aloofly distracted playstyle you guys were doing.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 19 2014 09:29 GMT
#3485
Like I think it's legitimately more difficult for good players to differentiate between bad, or low content trolly players than it is to differentiate between good ones. Do you disagree?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 19 2014 09:44 GMT
#3486
On February 19 2014 18:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why on a regular day? In my fictional scum fairytale we're putting your "regular mislynch" players in the Nominations. You want to mislynch the good townies on regular days. We're talking about scum who are playing proactively, not the lurky bullshit aloofly distracted playstyle you guys were doing.

I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Writer@WriterYamato
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 19 2014 09:49 GMT
#3487
On February 19 2014 18:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
That first nomination could have been Risen/geript/Oats. geript lives in that nomination approximately 90% of the time. He then becomes soft confirmed town the rest of the game. He plays a mean soft-confirmed town too, except that he replaced out.

What happens when me/Palmar/rayn play like we do N1 and become unlynchable AND town gets to kill an Oats or Risen instead of a rayn or marv?

wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin for town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 19 2014 09:51 GMT
#3488
On February 19 2014 18:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I think it's legitimately more difficult for good players to differentiate between bad, or low content trolly players than it is to differentiate between good ones. Do you disagree?

yes, of course. rayn/palmar/koshi were the easy townreads because they actually tried. it will always be so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 19 2014 11:21 GMT
#3489
I think mafia nominations were very good throughout. I feel like they played it safe and took advantage of town blunders and lazyness. Mafia didn't have to make a big play to win this game, this was good and solid, but not historical scum performance, they simply did what they had to do. I don't think there is much to criticize in mafia play. The setup is a bit strange in terms that it's very steamrolly. Town has very little room for error, but if town figures out like 2-3 townies outside of the nominations, scum can get fucked over really, really fast.

ie: both sides can steamroll really hard in this setup.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 19 2014 11:22 GMT
#3490
On February 19 2014 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 18:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I think it's legitimately more difficult for good players to differentiate between bad, or low content trolly players than it is to differentiate between good ones. Do you disagree?

yes, of course. rayn/palmar/koshi were the easy townreads because they actually tried. it will always be so.


One day I hope I get into a mafia game where everyone tries. That'd be good.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 19 2014 11:28 GMT
#3491
I really like yamato's summary of the game, I think it is for the most part quite accurate.

Although I actually think scum needs the shot. They need to be able to get rid of that asshole confirmed townie who is raping everyone and everything.

The time issue is another thing. Maybe we could figure out a way to have scum submit the nomination lynch during the day (submit 3 people with 1 backup, in case one of the three gets lynched?) Then we treat the nomination lynch as "nights". This would give town the normal 48h/24h cycle and keep the game interesting for longer.

I had literally nothing to do from the moment we lynched VA until the last day, I did try to get VE lynched (for good reasons yo!) but that wasn't even necessary. The Keirathi lynch was a default by then.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 19 2014 11:29 GMT
#3492
On February 19 2014 20:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
On February 19 2014 18:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I think it's legitimately more difficult for good players to differentiate between bad, or low content trolly players than it is to differentiate between good ones. Do you disagree?

yes, of course. rayn/palmar/koshi were the easy townreads because they actually tried. it will always be so.


One day I hope I get into a mafia game where everyone tries. That'd be good.

Shadow mafia, which you probably declined to play in :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 19 2014 11:32 GMT
#3493
yeah scum having the shot is fine. 24h lynches are kinda rapey though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 19 2014 11:43 GMT
#3494
On February 19 2014 10:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 10:32 gonzaw wrote:
On February 19 2014 10:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 19 2014 10:26 gonzaw wrote:
On February 19 2014 10:08 Palmar wrote:
I am btw requesting a ban on Cora for what could possibly be taken as an indication he doesn't think I'm town in his post-death post. The "Fuck you Palmar" following the gg gl town, can possibly be taken to mean that he thinks I'm not part of this town he's wishing good luck, and that is trying to influence the game post-death


Wasn't cora town? How would he know if you are scum or not, and how would town know cora knows you are town or scum?

He's saying that it's the same as him getting lynched and coming back after he is dead and saying,

"GG GL TOWN - Palmar is scum"
which isn't allowed in the rules.


Hmm
Seems a little bit too much for a ban though. Not like anybody cares about that kind of stuff, the effect is exactly the same if he had posted it 1 second before the night post.

On February 19 2014 10:29 marvellosity wrote:
Cora didn't have numbers, gonz :p


Ehmmm...
Yeah he did! But then he changed it to the other one which didn't, which then he changed it to the one he uses it now!
Silly marv!

Yeah I agree. Either Palmar is trolling or he just dislikes Cora and is trying to ban him for cursing him.


Not trolling. And while I think there is very little chance anyone listens to it, there is always a tiny chance. No reason we should tolerate anything like this. When you're out of the game you've ceased to have the right to have public opinions on anything in the game until it's over.

I am very much in favor of strict rules. (I hand out modkills like candy if I need to in my games).

All it takes is one idiot to read too much into a message like this, and let's say for a second that Cora holds the same amount of respect as someone like marv, or syllo or foolishness does... boom, the game is no longer valid.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 19 2014 11:44 GMT
#3495
On February 19 2014 20:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 10:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 19 2014 10:32 gonzaw wrote:
On February 19 2014 10:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 19 2014 10:26 gonzaw wrote:
On February 19 2014 10:08 Palmar wrote:
I am btw requesting a ban on Cora for what could possibly be taken as an indication he doesn't think I'm town in his post-death post. The "Fuck you Palmar" following the gg gl town, can possibly be taken to mean that he thinks I'm not part of this town he's wishing good luck, and that is trying to influence the game post-death


Wasn't cora town? How would he know if you are scum or not, and how would town know cora knows you are town or scum?

He's saying that it's the same as him getting lynched and coming back after he is dead and saying,

"GG GL TOWN - Palmar is scum"
which isn't allowed in the rules.


Hmm
Seems a little bit too much for a ban though. Not like anybody cares about that kind of stuff, the effect is exactly the same if he had posted it 1 second before the night post.

On February 19 2014 10:29 marvellosity wrote:
Cora didn't have numbers, gonz :p


Ehmmm...
Yeah he did! But then he changed it to the other one which didn't, which then he changed it to the one he uses it now!
Silly marv!

Yeah I agree. Either Palmar is trolling or he just dislikes Cora and is trying to ban him for cursing him.


Not trolling. And while I think there is very little chance anyone listens to it, there is always a tiny chance. No reason we should tolerate anything like this. When you're out of the game you've ceased to have the right to have public opinions on anything in the game until it's over.

I am very much in favor of strict rules. (I hand out modkills like candy if I need to in my games).

All it takes is one idiot to read too much into a message like this, and let's say for a second that Cora holds the same amount of respect as someone like marv, or syllo or foolishness does... boom, the game is no longer valid.

Such lies, you don't pay enough attention to your own games to hand out anything <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 19 2014 11:48 GMT
#3496
Bitch please, best host.

All those special rules! My favorite one is the "Don't ask questions in the thread, don't mention asking questions in the thread".
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 19 2014 11:50 GMT
#3497
Mm. In the normal I hosted I think I copied that one, it's a goodie.

Anyways, host Storm II sometime... :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 19 2014 11:54 GMT
#3498
I haven't gauged the queue really, but everyone and their mother was hosting closed semi-normal setups last time I checked. No need to pile on.

But yes, these semi-traditional roles are fun. I'm really proud of the Operator role, I think it's a much more interesting role than mason.
Computer says mafia
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 20 2014 00:05 GMT
#3499
In my defense this is why I don't tend to write "cases" as I think my case was completely ignored for the most part because it is unintelligible to anyone besides me.
I come in for the scraps
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 21 2014 22:09 GMT
#3500
Question: is this setup town favored? The entire game I felt like town was getting outplayed but we still came so close
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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