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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 20:47 GMT
#2141
On February 13 2014 05:40 yamato77 wrote:
I like that someone else noted the lack of effort VE has put into his reads.

I don't know if I buy the whole "I know I look bad" spiel from him. Instead of attempting to explain his reads, he's just self-admonishing and skating by for it. meeeeeeeeeeeeeh

I'm interested to see how Keirathi comes back. He's basically stakes his whole play so far on calling VE mafia (he didn't even TRY to defend his ass reasoning for calling me mafia).

Just for fun, I went back and looked at the getmoript filter from LXI, and the style of his play there is quite similar to geript's play this game. He was relatively low-content, and low-activity. This game, as I've already stated, has an odd progression in modes from geript. It's a conscious decision to troll, no? Then why is he so surprised when Palmar calls him out on it? Honestly, reading the exchange again with knowledge of how both players have played since really makes it clear that Palmar was spot on at the time.

I'm going to filter Wave some time soon. My impression is mixed. He reads geript scum as well, but honestly, that's not that convincing. I don't remember a single stance he's taken on my alignment the whole game. I know day 1 he was all "VA is town" and stuff when Koshi called him mafia, so there's definitely something to be said about how unsettling this VA lynch is at the moment.

First of all, isn't getmoript partially marv?
Second, no you know what? I don't think I HAVE taken a stance on your alignment all game. Because you haven't done anything worth being memorable. 'Slipping under the radar,' as it were, despite your activity excuses likely not being fake.

I can do it right now if you'd like since there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot going on
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 12 2014 20:48 GMT
#2142
na i barely played.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 20:56 GMT
#2143
On February 13 2014 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
na i barely played.

Were you kicked out right at the start? I couldn't remember when it was, but I suppose that is true then. Yamato where is your vote right now?
On February 13 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:22 Risen wrote:
I'm down for stopping potential shenanigans.

##unvote
##vote: vayneauthority

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On February 13 2014 04:25 Risen wrote:
I'm down for lynching any of ve, keir, hf, va

can anyone tell me how these posts even come close to going together?

Marv what are you thinking with this?
This actually makes me realize it's time for a reevaluation of Risen. I've had him as a townread since the start but its been s long I can't actually be sure if it still makes sense considering all i remember from Risen recently is complaining about fake rage and my 'buddying.'

Yamato and risen filter time.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2014 21:04 GMT
#2144
I can lynch WoS. ezpz np
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2014 21:04 GMT
#2145
reason: lack of pushing anything except me early.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 21:05 GMT
#2146
On February 08 2014 11:27 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 11:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't read Oats.
And sorry luv muffin.

And again, VA is not unreadable.

<3

Good feels.

You had good feels about me then, and I haven't changed my stance on Oats or VA. Are you suspicious of me now because of this or despite it?

Jesus yamato your filter is ass.
It's all 'pop in, one liners, sorry gotta go, be angry at thread for random reason.'
And cora.

You posted a little on geript interspersed with cora here:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 09 2014 15:25 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 19:56 geript wrote:
On February 08 2014 19:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato has already posted ~10posts less than he did in all GoT game on D1. Not to mention that game had a house election on N0 so there was a shitton more to talk about on D1. He has also posted more than in the whole Sicilian game (which had the posting limit so i don't even get why you bring that game up in the first place) so i would really like you to show me where you are basing this argument.

Looks like I was just misremembering. I only remembered this post:
On February 08 2014 12:52 yamato77 wrote:
Does anyone actually have anything useful to say or can I ignore this thread for ~24 hours?

Thinking he popped in and then fucked off. Guess I'm going to have to start taking notes since reading and playing lol doesn't work

Actually you've just shown you're not reading at all, basically. No need to start now!

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On February 09 2014 06:48 geript wrote:
On February 09 2014 06:40 Palmar wrote:
Well the last one is that he claims to have played strong enough towngame to be considered obvious town, decided to ignore Risen's inquiry about an explanation. I think it should be fairly obvious to himself he does not look like town to everyone in the game.

There are several other things that stand out. He opened the game by going after two players unlikely to defend themselves at that point in the game. The Oats asked him about his intentios with the vote which is a perfectly reasonable question but that prompted geript to call the question stupid and countervote Oats, which is clearly not very productive. I mean maybe he's just decided to be a dick which would actually fit what I think of him in general, but it's not helping us win the game and if he continues to play like this I'd frankly simply be ok with lynching him no matter his alignment just so I don't have to deal with him.

But there's also the option that he's being a dick because it's easier than playing normally when you're scum... so..

No this is blatantly false and Palmar's fucking scum for trying to push me like this. Everyone who's ever played with me should know like the simplest way to read me is by filter length. Marv explained it in LoL. It's been true every time. I fucking struggle like hell to post as scum. Palmar even fucking knows this; he played LXI or whatever one I was confrimed town in and my activity was shit for most of the game. Not only this, but Palmar is trying to skew my actions on Oats. Oats is generally pretty easy to read based on how much of a dick he's being in combination with his activity. As town, Oats is far more willing to get into shitfests at any moment and is far more active than he is as scum. Just like in LoL he wasn't a dick early, despite being given the option to get into a shitfest he's just avoided it. So yah, PALMAR IS SCUMB!!!!!!!!!

Palmar is scum with Oats and is using his name to protect him just like Rayn does.


This is also shit, as is the rest of this interaction from geript's side. Wouldn't mind lynching geript if this is how he's going to paly.

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On February 09 2014 06:05 Risen wrote:
On February 09 2014 06:03 geript wrote:
I'm obv town.

Why?

On February 09 2014 05:59 geript wrote:
On February 09 2014 05:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 09 2014 05:46 geript wrote:
On February 08 2014 21:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Risen totes town though
Feels

I'm here wubbybumpkins... explain this one to me.

Apparently I'm not supposed to have townreads (unless you disagree with Rayn's explanation to me)?
Even then, feels require no explanation. They come from the heart.

I have some stuff for you though, did your frenetic posting earlier on in the game have a specific point to it? And your vote on Oats atm? If you actually think Oats is scum what do you make of his vote on Rayn?


Getting my daily in. Brb. Short reason, at first it was a troll vote, but oats is looking scummy to me now. His gore... Meaningless

This post is decidedly null.

##vote: Corazon

Should throw this in now since plurality.


This makes no sense. Why is it necessary in a plurality lynch to vote so early on, especially given how little Risen seems to be interested in actually talking about this read? Out of nowhere, Risen just goes "Yeah I think Cora is scum" and then waffles about lynching him, yet now just votes him because "plurality". Ooookay...

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On February 09 2014 10:37 Koshi wrote:
On February 09 2014 10:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 09 2014 10:26 marvellosity wrote:
Yes, I'm aware you discussed it with rayn.

As a FYI, in my experience, people who buddy me are disproportionately likely to be town, because it's a risk for mafia to draw their attention to me for any reason. I'm hyper-aware of how people treat me in general because a) ego and b) I'm interactive anyways, so anyone buddying with me is automatically drawing some of my attention.

I don't tend to fall into the "he likes me, he town" trap that some people do.

I can't just take your word on this, you know.

Koshi, I'd like you to explain this post to me.
On February 09 2014 05:18 Koshi wrote:
On February 09 2014 04:18 Risen wrote:
Reasoning?

On February 08 2014 11:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I'd say the mafia team would not bother chatting with eachother this early, if they have even showed up at all. Can probably put mutually exclusive brackets on geript(wave,yamato)

On February 08 2014 11:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
if im reading this correctly, the first thing that sticks out to me is that mafia only gets one kill chosen solely by them, so I would keep a close eye on who they decide to kill. can't really waste that on WIFOM is a town is dominating.

+
No anger vs geript.


Vayne is a pretty cool guy. Like a nice guy to have in your team as town. Cracking some jokes, saying smart things only he gets, you don't really want to lynch him but kinda want to lynch him cuz he is somewhat useless, stuffz like that.

Seeing nothing of that atm. So I vote for VA.

It's not all meta btw. He is also totes not doing shit this game.


I generally agree with this post. VA is much less lighthearted as mafia, and this game is devoid of image macros and stupid jokes. As town lately, he has actually shown a penchant to try to find mafia, and this game he doesn't seem nearly as interested.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 14:53 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
On February 09 2014 02:02 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. So you have not said pretty much anything then. Is there anyone that seems scummy to you atm?

I know this going to sound like a cop-out, but I don't have any scumreads right now. (This thought line only works for me) I know that because I am VT, people attacking me either have to be wrong or scum.

Rayn- I think your attack of me hinges on the interpretation that Geript's play was pro-active rather than shitting up the thread. It's not scummy if you disagree with me.

WoS- He is wrong too, but I feel like it is too much effort for scum to be attacking both me and VE at the same time in the effort of trying to make an association case. He's also trying to get opinions on his opinion, which tells me that he is looking for the right lynch, not the one that gives him a scum read to cling to.

Yamato- This:

On February 08 2014 19:01 yamato77 wrote:
RE: Cora

Didn't care for this bit:

On February 08 2014 12:25 Corazon wrote:
On February 08 2014 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well there is no "hook" for Alak to have to "get off" since he hasn't even been give a few hours. I think it is null for now Cora. It doesn't even feel scummy to you or you wouldn't be asking, you would be telling us.

Alright, I will give it a break. I just thought the conversation about Geript was going nowhere, so I wanted to throw it out there.

@Oats: 4 people in this game are scum. When I figure out who is scum, I'll let you know babycakes


Shoots down Oats for Oats' dumb "who is scum?" question, then

On February 08 2014 16:22 Corazon wrote:
Geript, when do you plan on actually trying to find scum? Just curious.


Turns around and does the same stupid thing.

I, unlike you, give him no townie points for the Slam questions because it was a silly thing to ask anyway.

Is just blatantly wrong. He calls me out without saying that my play has been useless/I'm shitting up the thread. He doesn't want to make these specific statements that I can easily disprove. My post to Geript was basically saying "When are you going to stop shitting up the thread" and he basically stated that I was shitting up the thread too, which is a complete lie.

My behavior ≠ Geript's behavior, and it's pretty bad for Yamato to try and link them together.

That is most of my thoughts on the game. I haven't seen too many egregious posts which also makes me think that we have another huge lurker scum team. But it's just a feeling.

Another thing about this post is, why are you only focusing on the people attacking you? You do realize that the logic "I'm town therefor those attacking me have to be wrong/scum" is incredibly silly. If you're going to continue playing as you have, there's no reason for me to believe you. You're not even necessarily trying to find mafia with this post, you're just arguing that people who call you mafia are wrong. You're not even OMGUSing, you're just playing defensive and trying to survive.

You did this SAME kind of thing in Quiet Game where you basically only argued with people that thought you were mafia. If you're not going to take any initiative and try to find things worth talking about, the simplest explanation I can come up with is that you're mafia hoping to just skate by unnoticed.

Now I'll be reading the thread from the point of when I fell asleep last night in more detail. This was the most notable thing I read before I left for work, but inevitably there is more.

Sorry for only talking about what I could talk about at that point in time. I even said there wasn't much I wanted to comment on.

After that, I've talked about Koshi and Palmar so now you are just lying. GJ Yamato


First of all, my post was about the post that I quoted, NOT anything else, so you are again misinterpreting what I've said.

Second of all, let's look at what you've said about Koshi and Palmar.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 10:47 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe if Palmar does non-geript or better-geript things and rayn tells me where to look, we can get a good lynch.

We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum.


This heavily implies you think geript is town. What makes you think that? What makes you think that Palmar is MAFIA for attacking geript for being terrible, even IF geript is town? This is a shallow read.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 11:18 Corazon wrote:
On February 09 2014 11:13 Koshi wrote:
But look at this playerlist. Why go after the Koshi. And tbh Alakaslam really was pretty town. All spammy and funzies. No restriction. No fear. It was cool.

Ok, now I have a problem with you shouting out "look how townie my slot is!"
Any better reasons for voting out VA?


This is the only thing you've said about Koshi. How is this a read?

Cora, I fail to understand what you're trying to accomplish this game. As town, you try to scumhunt. This stuff does not satisfy that qualification.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would lynch cora and rayn right now. Marv getting into stupid shitfests probably means he is town.

How come nobody thinks im scum???


Oats, I agree about cora, but what exactly is Rayn doing that makes him mafia? I rather like that he and I generally seem to be on the same page.

Also, Marv can get into shitfests as mafia. I withhold judging him until he actually decides to play the game. As of right now, he seems content letting others do the work for him, which tells me nothing about his alignment.

+ Show Spoiler +

But then with Cora gone and you getting what you want, why nto go after geript once you were done as he appeared to be your #2?
What are your updated reads because I don't honestly think I have any idea.
What have you DONE this game, yamato?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 12 2014 21:14 GMT
#2147
Why not go after geript?

Are you reading my posts Wave?
Writer@WriterYamato
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 12 2014 21:14 GMT
#2148
On February 13 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote:
meh. I could lynch not-VA I guess. Maybe one of Holy/Keirathi.

I'd like Palmar to come say things, I'm kinda busy this evening.


I share exactly the same thoughts.

I remember thinking when Keirathi joined the game that his initial case was very much not believable, it just felt like a forced entry and I had a rough time believing he had read the entire game, and came way with such a strong opinion on someone.

I still don't mind killing VA, his effort level seems to be way too little for someone that doesn't like being mislynched (according to someone in the thread).

Holyflare hasn't done jack shit in this game and is probably mafia.

I don't care. I could switch
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 21:15 GMT
#2149
On February 13 2014 06:14 yamato77 wrote:
Why not go after geript?

Are you reading my posts Wave?

I think the number of posts in your filter where you 'go after' geript is like...3.
Including the most recent one.
Who are you voting for, yamato?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 12 2014 21:15 GMT
#2150
Don't know my reads? They are all in that one post you quoted earlier, bro.

Jesus.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 12 2014 21:15 GMT
#2151
I'm not lynching VA if wave is "fine with it"
Writer@WriterYamato
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 12 2014 21:16 GMT
#2152
switchin' it up.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 21:17 GMT
#2153
On February 13 2014 06:15 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not lynching VA if wave is "fine with it"

LOLWUT
I'm fine with lynching VA....
Just.....
WUT

Yamato what the fuck?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 21:17 GMT
#2154
On February 13 2014 06:15 yamato77 wrote:
Don't know my reads? They are all in that one post you quoted earlier, bro.

Jesus.

That one post?
How long ago did that one post take place yamato?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 21:18 GMT
#2155
Oh you mean the one on the top of this page?
Ok, but I have no idea from that post who you think is scum.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 12 2014 21:20 GMT
#2156
On February 13 2014 06:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh you mean the one on the top of this page?
Ok, but I have no idea from that post who you think is scum.

Wave, you are seriously not this thick.
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 21:22 GMT
#2157
I see
'meehhhhhh'
I'm 'interested'
and 'my impression is mixed.'

Can you show me where you're calling people scum in that post?

And after everything why the hell are people just starting to listen now about VA? (Or maybe not since nobody has mvoed their vote off)
This lynch is all kinds of wonky and I don't know in which direction.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 12 2014 21:25 GMT
#2158
##Vote WaveofShadow
Writer@WriterYamato
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 12 2014 21:26 GMT
#2159
On February 13 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:22 Risen wrote:
I'm down for stopping potential shenanigans.

##unvote
##vote: vayneauthority

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:25 Risen wrote:
I'm down for lynching any of ve, keir, hf, va

can anyone tell me how these posts even come close to going together?

Well, VA is in the lead, I'm down for stopping any potential last second shenans since I've been asked to consolidate. So I did.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 12 2014 21:26 GMT
#2160
On February 13 2014 06:25 yamato77 wrote:
##Vote WaveofShadow

Please tell me other people are reading this.
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