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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 12 2014 18:05 GMT
#2101
On February 13 2014 03:03 marvellosity wrote:
no, I have no theories beyond VA right now.

Well I'd suggest sticking with the bussing triangle one if you want to include me on your scum team. I like that one because I would use it as mafia just for that single day that I look amazing at catching mafia for getting rid of Holyflare.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 12 2014 18:19 GMT
#2102
The notion that I am playing against wincon is hilarious; I've given some reasons why it is foolish to think I am mafia but what ya gonna do. The majority of the activity happens while I'm asleep and waking up to 500 posts of "VA is mafia" everyday and nothing else pretty much makes me lose interest, since I am not mafia and the entire thread is going to be worthless once I flip town.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 12 2014 18:23 GMT
#2103
holyflare, oats, (geript, VE), ???

is where im at right now

##vote: Holyflare
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 12 2014 18:25 GMT
#2104
I don't think so. Probably WoS over VE if it's not you.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 12 2014 18:27 GMT
#2105
On February 13 2014 03:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
The notion that I am playing against wincon is hilarious; I've given some reasons why it is foolish to think I am mafia but what ya gonna do. The majority of the activity happens while I'm asleep and waking up to 500 posts of "VA is mafia" everyday and nothing else pretty much makes me lose interest, since I am not mafia and the entire thread is going to be worthless once I flip town.

you've still not given a single reason why holyflare is mafia

top job if you're town bro, top job.

I've left the door open for you numerous times to come back and play, every time you come back and whinge like some snivelling little bitch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 12 2014 18:30 GMT
#2106
I don't know why you would want to provoke him. It's pretty miraculous that he isn't calling everybody cum dumpsters yet.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 12 2014 18:30 GMT
#2107
It's not a provocation, it's a statement of the obvious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 12 2014 18:32 GMT
#2108
On February 12 2014 10:06 marvellosity wrote:
Vayne, why is Holyflare certain mafia?

On February 12 2014 10:17 marvellosity wrote:
Vayne you are in no way condemned, so if you are town shape up and answer some really basic questions. jeez. time is of the essence etc

On February 13 2014 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
now if Vayne would come and play a little we may yet have an interesting day

I've never been tunnelled, I've always given him chances.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 12 2014 18:34 GMT
#2109
There aren't any reasons for lynching me either, guess we're on even ground then. Unless this is a court of law and I've contradicted myself into a guilty verdict? Maybe it is.
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2014 18:35 GMT
#2110
On February 13 2014 03:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
There aren't any reasons for lynching me either, guess we're on even ground then. Unless this is a court of law and I've contradicted myself into a guilty verdict? Maybe it is.

VA is arguing that his scumplay isn't bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2014 18:36 GMT
#2111
VA did you ignore WoS because you are scumbuddies or because you wan to trick us after you flipped?
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 12 2014 18:38 GMT
#2112
On February 13 2014 03:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
There aren't any reasons for lynching me either, guess we're on even ground then. Unless this is a court of law and I've contradicted myself into a guilty verdict? Maybe it is.

VA is arguing that his scumplay isn't bad.


Not really, just saying that the reasons for voting me are playing against wincon if we want to talk stupid.

and idk what im supposed to tell you about WoS, but he thinks im town so good enough for me right now.
I come in for the scraps
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 12 2014 18:38 GMT
#2113
so you can't explain why Holyflare is mafia, that's right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 12 2014 18:39 GMT
#2114
I mean I've only asked 6 times now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 12 2014 18:39 GMT
#2115
On February 13 2014 03:38 marvellosity wrote:
so you can't explain why Holyflare is mafia, that's right?


Not in a way anyone here would understand no. I'm not good at writing cases and do most of my scumhunting just looking through filters and then piecing together the scumteam for my own benefit.
I come in for the scraps
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#2116
so explain from your perspective then. you must have read things to make you think so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 12 2014 18:43 GMT
#2117
I don't think I could explain why HF is scum in a way that I could explain another person being scum but it doesn't mean I'm not confident enough to trade 1 for 1 with him all the same.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 12 2014 18:44 GMT
#2118
Which I would. So let's do that.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 12 2014 18:53 GMT
#2119
On February 13 2014 03:40 marvellosity wrote:
so explain from your perspective then. you must have read things to make you think so.


lend me a hand theory, code 394, Town superlatives, and false equivalencies.

On February 10 2014 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
I am almost positive he will flip mafia.



On February 11 2014 01:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare when you get back could you explain what exactly is that you find scummy in those posts/stances from people you quoted right before and after the deadline.


Would rather do it after nominations tbh which is probably around the time I'll be back. Got 2 scum i think though.


On February 11 2014 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to know the nominations.... -.- Feel like this dawn thing is kinda pointless as the optimal play is to NOT mention who you think is town like everyone (including rayn who said he agreed with this) has been doing.

Also, wave, wtf are you doing? You just went through gracks filter and pointed out everything I had already brought to light to then reach.... no conclusion, yet, that was the thing you criticised/questioned me for?

Also your post which has pre-flip associations in it shouldn't at all after your last 2 games:

(Vengeful Mafia)

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:36 Cephiro wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:25 LSB wrote:
I am deeply concerned about Cephiro trying to get a townie to offer themselves as a sacrifice to get me shot. I know that I am a townie, so this falls under my "worst case scenario of townie shooting townie" argument.

This is incredibly different from Marv/HF who are both asking people to lynch them so they can pull the trigger themselves. Unless they are bluffing (which applies more to HF than Marv) mafia should never offer themselves as a sacrifice.


1) I have merely pointed out my suspicions on you and referred to you as my preferred lynch target since I was asked of that specific question.

2) If you are scum, there is no reason for scum to shoot you. I am not in need of tempting another townie to get to shoot you, I am just fine doing it myself.

I figure it would be best to talk cooperatively among town who they want to keep around for lategame to ensure the best possibilities of winning. As you might have noticed, I am in no rush to make decisions about who to lynch or who to shoot this cycle, neither was I during last cycle.

This is also a reason why I'm sad that Prome was the one to take the shot, since I would have preferred him to stay alive later in the game, and had an more unsure read take the shot.

@Wave: It's suboptimal play. Why guess if we can have facts? Certainly it might not even become a deciding factor of any sorts, but why take the risk? Why not go for the guaranteed information?

Disagree.
We have direct control over a lynch, not who gets shot. The shooters can technically do whatever they want despite what they may say, and they may or may not mean they're scum. If we lynch two people who then shoot town, and then game doesn't end either way, then we know one of them was scum---the only thing that the 'guaranteed' information matters is for association cases, which I have very little faith in lately.


(Shadow Mafia)
Show nested quote +
I've kidna forgotten about Toad so I dunno where I am on that. Thinking of it now I figure much of our downfall this game has been association so I don't think I want to start looking into waht pairs make sense and what don't.

We REALLY should be lynching on merits alone, and then once we have a flip we can start attempting to associate (but even then I'd lean towards solo analysis).


So why did you start out the game with pre-flip associations in your mind when you know that it hasn't been working out for you and even said you don't want to do it in previous 2 games?


On February 11 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
nominations in 40 minutes right?


After writing a case on cora based on faulty meta

On February 11 2014 11:54 Holyflare wrote:
Grack what games have you rolled scum in?



who he has been pressuring most of the game


has been absent for the day I am getting lynched because he has no reason to do anything.
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 12 2014 18:57 GMT
#2120
Marv is just going to end up sheeping me again. As usual...
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