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On February 02 2014 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: That was the original intention, but after the lacklustre usage of the coaches by some players I decided it'd be better to just have them be coached during their game as well for maximum benefit. But Artanis I learned gud | ||
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On February 02 2014 10:16 Alakaslam wrote: Well I say wait for Derrida & suki I'm all for waiting till we have enough players confirm. I would just like to start sooner then next monday | ||
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We DO need to have pressure to make people who usually lurk (whether they be town or scum) post more often. So I like the guideline in general. So lets try to aim for 40 as a benchmark why not. Balla is this your first mafia game? I was browsing some of this towns old games and didn't see you. | ||
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On February 04 2014 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote: motivated. And its not like there is anything from stopping me from literally posting ... ... ... etc if I were actually scared koshi (or anyone else) would follow through with it. Is there anyone who is legitimately advocating for letting people lurk? I understand that its largely inevitable (hell, im one of the poster children) but we should still be making a reasonable effort to pressure people and get thoughts when they are around. What are you trying to accomplish with this post? I disagree that its inevitable. If we as a town are all posting well and making concise thoughts then we could just find lurking scum on the wayside. It almost seems like your advocating to let people lurk. I don't even know why your bringing up you making numbered post. Of course that isn't acceptable do you even have to ask it? | ||
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On February 04 2014 09:11 Hopeless1der wrote: Jay, let me slippery slope this argument. Suppose I invoke a policy that "I will vote the player with the smallest filter at 30 minutes to deadline". How do you avoid drawing my vote? By spamming as much as possible. How do you conclude that I'm "almost advocating to let people lurk"? I literally ask that question as a rhetorical because its implied that lurking is bad. Is this real life right now? Why use a logical fallacy. 40 posts is a decent benchmark to strive to hit. I said we should try to hit it but not spam. There is obviously a middle ground. Implying that we should vote simply on the basis of posts was not the intention. And no this isn't real life your playing a forum game called mafia  | ||
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On February 04 2014 09:27 JonnyLaw wrote: Balla's played a few games Jay. Did his vote on LM then leaving strike you oddly? This isn't even worth discussing anymore. No one's being lynched for having 39 quality pro-town posts. It's a fine benchmark. I liked his vote on LM. I noticed earlier when i was going thru some players in the mafia database that his name wasn't anywhere. And his opening seemed like he wasn't new. | ||
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On February 04 2014 09:31 Balla24 wrote: Nope. Just played LXIV which is ongoing, Normal Mini Episode 1, and the last 4 newbie games. Just search my post history for this forum and you'll find them. I'm not in the database yet. Where you mafia in any of them? | ||
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Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o | ||
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On February 04 2014 10:14 sidesprang wrote: Lol wtf game started today afterall. Anyhow regarding policy shit, not much to say, think it's covered allready. But yeh, look for content instead not postcount. We do NOT want ppl spamming useless shit. Why did you want Jonny to out Ballas scumtells in the thread this early before Balla even had a chance to play into them ? Scum tells are much harder to change then it would appear. It isn't easy for balla to change his scum play on the dime so it isn't like its helping balla if he rolled scum this game. I would like to know for a point of reference for my self and for the thread so they can know what to look out for. By talking with jonny even about basic stuff like this it can help me get a read on him as well. Day 1 is all about generating discussion. I'm sure if I hadn't asked this question and Balla had a similar game to his scum games and Jonny noticed this he would of made a case using his knowledge. So I can only think of good reasons to ask. | ||
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On February 04 2014 10:14 sidesprang wrote: Lol wtf game started today afterall. Anyhow regarding policy shit, not much to say, think it's covered allready. But yeh, look for content instead not postcount. We do NOT want ppl spamming useless shit. Why did you want Jonny to out Ballas scumtells in the thread this early before Balla even had a chance to play into them ? Sidesprung you asked me a question I responded. There is alot going in the thread right now. I don't just want to see content I want to see some post count too. People are conversing, poking at one another a back and forth. You make one question at me and you disappeared. Don't you have anything else to comment on, or respond to my post or make a comment on another post or give your opinion. Anything really. Dropping one post and leaving the thread is not the environment town should be fostering. Thru discussion like i was talking about earlier we can learn other alignments and discover ulterior motives. Ill give you somethings to post on. What do you think of Balla's early vote on LM? Was it appropriate given LM"s posts? What do you think of my response to your post? Does what I say made sense? Do you agree that I should have questioned Jonny about Balla's scum game or should I have not said anything? Why do you think Suki poke at Jonnys two opinions? Do you think Suki got defensive after Balla inquired about her post? Why do you think Suki would post about jonny if not trying to discern if hes mafia or not? (These questions go out to Suki as well?) Who is your towniest read at the moment? Who do you think is most likely scum? Do you believe in policy lynching lurkers? What is the lowest amount someone should be expected to post? | ||
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On February 04 2014 11:39 JonnyLaw wrote: I want to play answer the questions too. Suki always thinks what I say is scummy. null read. no towniest read. scummiest read - koshi lynch the lurkers post as much as needed to get scum lynched. Suki claimed that she didn't say you were scummy tho. | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:03 suki wrote: He's writing a lot of words that basically say 'Sidesprang I want you to post something'. + Show Spoiler + What do you think of Balla's early vote on LM? Was it appropriate given LM"s posts? What do you think of my response to your post? Does what I say made sense? Do you agree that I should have questioned Jonny about Balla's scum game or should I have not said anything? Why do you think Suki poke at Jonnys two opinions? Do you think Suki got defensive after Balla inquired about her post? Why do you think Suki would post about jonny if not trying to discern if hes mafia or not? (These questions go out to Suki as well?) Who is your towniest read at the moment? Who do you think is most likely scum? Do you believe in policy lynching lurkers? What is the lowest amount someone should be expected to post? What's the point of these questions? Especially the last paragraph of questions. This post feels like a lot of fluff and not much substance. The point of the questions is to have sidesprang answer them ^^ What do you think was my intention? | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:05 JonnyLaw wrote: I'd say it could feel like bussing scum buddy. This is interesting. So why does it feel more like bussing a scum buddie (implying im scum) As opposed to trying to get a lurker to post. I should properly preface this by saying that before the game as I was looking at some of the games from other players. I noticed sidesprang had a worrying about of posts in his town game. Perhaps like 2 - 3 posts a cycle and that was pushing it. I noted that and planned to put alot of pressure on him this game. I was considering trying to start a policy lynch on him with my first post to get conversation moving and put pressure. But we had good thread conversation when i joined it. So i dismissed the idea and decided to approach him with this questioning. I want to see his reads. And if he lurks like he does most other games we will have a problem so I don't want to let that happen. Here are his other games for refrence. I think the game where he posts the most is as mafia. BloodyC0bblers Mafia XVI Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 sidesprang as the Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 Filter TL Mafia XVIII Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 6 sidesprang as the Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 6 Filter TL Mafia XX Town Miller Survived sidesprang as the Town Miller Survived Filter Pick Your Power Mafia! Mafia Copycat Lynched Day 2 sidesprang as the Mafia Copycat Lynched Day 2 Filter | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:10 suki wrote: I think you don't really care about the answers, you just want to look like you're contributing. How about you answer a few of the questions you posed yourself? Oh I answered all those questions in my Google spreadsheet already. I ll post what I got on you guys so far. Its not all up to date on the recent things that happened. 1. Balla24 Town I like him so far very aggressive and making discussion and seems like a real player in this game 2. Sidesprang Bleh One post so far I knew he would be a candidate for a policy lynch and hes confirming that. 3. Alakaslam Posted 2 things with no content so far 4. cakemanofdoom no content There is quite a bit of things in the game atm and he chooses to comment on suki saying thats nice. Pretty lackluster choice 5. LoneMeow slightly scummy His first post sucked I don't like it at all and might be down to vote him just based on that. He followed up with basic policy stuff. I dont like him so far 6. Jaybrundage The towniest town that ever towned 7. Hopeless1der Meh we argued a bit over nothing hasn't posted any content tho so much is going on in the thread where did he go? 8. Oatsmaster Hasn't posted yet. I think at the start of the game is pretty late for him tho 9. JonnyLaw Pretty waffly at the start. He is posting but he doesn't seem to have firm convictions. He didn't liike Balla early but he has played with baller 3-2 times with him being scum so his suspicion is warrented. He hasn't produced much content tho he just seems like going with the flow 10. Suki scummy I don't like suki so far she just seems like she has no real motivation behind her posting. Her poke at jonnys waffleing was ok but then when balla inquired about it she said she never said she implied hes scum or anything LIke wtf? Why poke at someone but have no real reason behind it. It would seem that she didn't understand him but then she didn't say that she got very defensive. Said she didn't see anything with LM posting slight defending I dont like her atm 11. Koshi Posted some generic lets post alot then disappeared | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote: he's trying to advance the game to find scum duhhhh. Whats up Masta of the Oats? Been a long time since we played ill have to look ya up. Tho I don't like the buddying atm :o | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:29 sidesprang wrote: People should post enough to be readable and enough to get their scumreads out. I don't belive in a set number. So what im worried about is that as I have shown a good bit with my recent posts. Is that you aren't going to put enough posts in the thread that we can read you. Your games are testament to this. People have trouble reading you because of your lack of posting. If your scum you seem too put more effort into the game. (I can relate to this with my newer games as scum you have complete information and know what your doing, as newer town it sometimes just feels like your fumbling around in the dark) So having all this in consideration. I would actually like you to set a post amount that you feel you should be able to reach with in a cycle. I am all about quality over quantity but we need a little bit of both. Set for your self a arbitrary number that you think is maybe a bit high but reasonable and try to reach that goal. Of course I want you to put thought and have a clear meaning in your post. I can not stress this enough. When you post something know what you want to accomplish with your post. I don't want you to spam. I just think you set the bar to low for your self in post count and I would like to improve this part of your town game. What do ya say? | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:34 sidesprang wrote: @ jay, dude go look at my 2 recent games instead of the 3 year old ones... Newbie Mini Mafia, as Vanilla Town II Titanic Mini Mafia, as Allignment Cop This is more my meta, the others you will not learn anything from. Sweet I will take a look at those. I posted my last post with out seeing this. | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:41 cakemanofdoom wrote: Eh jay you don't like my choice of topics? suki's first post talked about gender, niceness, and her feeling on policy lynches in general. But no detail on what she thought of Koshi's particular policy, which imo is the most important thing she could have talked about. Feels like she was trying to seem helpful while avoiding anything that mattered. Plus I liked the way discussion was going for the other things. I don't think Koshi's policy specifically was that important. We aren't going to arbitrary lynch someone who has under 40 posts. She gave her opinion on policy lynches. I felt like it was focusing on a detail that wasn't very important. There were quite a few other things in the thread that i thought were more noticeable or important. | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:45 suki wrote: @cakeman, you said you thought jay's post was okay. Is your impression of jay at this point more townie or scummy? Suki I want to see more of your thinking on me. What do you think of the post I copy pasted over from my Spreadsheet. I talked a bit about you in it. What do you think about it. I want to know what YOU think? Talk about me please :D Or anyone at all but i want to hear your opinion. I gave you my opinion on everyone in the game. | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:57 suki wrote: I like your post and your line of thinking thus far. The fact that you've put a lot of thought into sidesprang's meta is a point in your favour as it's less likely scum would do that. Your read on me is whatever. I'm pressuring you the most so the fact that you think I'm scummy is understandable I guess. Anyways you're coming off to me as town for now. I don't have any solid reads on scum at the moment so I am just throwing out my line and seeing what I can reel back in. The spread sheet was made before you started pressuring. Don't confuse my suspicion with an OMGUS. My thinking of why you were scummy when i wrote it was because of your waffleing with your poke at jonny. You made a poke at him. Asking him of his two "different" opinions. Then you said he didn't change his mind when it seemed obvious he did. And when balla poked at your post you said you never suspected jonny as scum. Which just seems way overly defensive. Why wouldn't you suspect everyone at this point until they prove them self as town. I don't see intention behind your posts besides to post for the sake of it. | ||
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On February 04 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote: THIS GUY EDITED I FOUND THE SCUM | ||
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On February 04 2014 10:54 Alakaslam wrote: YOU BET AON I CANT GUARANTEE QUALITEE BUT I CANNAE AVOID TEH SPAM WITHOUT ÜUBERLURK ALakaslam you were reading up on the game. But never posted anything with content after. Whats up? | ||
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On February 04 2014 14:58 Alakaslam wrote: Because she calls it fluff and that's true so she is right Are you telling me you learned anything from Nashville? No that spiel, talk text So to get it straight you think what i posted had no purpose? | ||
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On February 04 2014 15:10 Alakaslam wrote: It did have purpose. Not a pro town purpose. If you are town you need to cut out anything that isn't patently obvious, that post it would've been a lot better if it only included those questions. Ok first off its hard to understand your meaning when your phone keeps putting random words and auto correct or what not. In a game of words please make sure yours are legible. Second you won't be able to follow the game if you can't see usernames. You say your self that you can't see usernames till you quote. Therefore you can't follow the flow of the game who's asking what so on and so forth. I could go on but I wouldn't wanna post to much "fluff." So given that you don't even know who's saying what. How do you even think you can judge the game correctly? I will type as much as i want for one big reason. Transparency I rather type more so people understand my meaning then type less and have my meaning or intent get skewed. I also tend to type less in my usually meta and make quick one liners. So to change that this game. I am trying to put more content in my post and always make sure I have a message. | ||
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On February 04 2014 15:08 Alakaslam wrote: Dude I just read that list post, you how your scum team? That's freaking hilarious everyone scum that could possibly be town four numbers and everyone and it could possibly be scum for number is town Like this gum team is five times the size of town not vice versa Are people even reading this stuff really This is unreadable | ||
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On February 04 2014 15:08 Oatsmaster wrote: I hard defended jay so we didnt have to waste time being all wishy washy about him. Balla, who is scum? Do you have anything to commentate on that happened during this day so far? What do you think of cakeman, Suki, and jonny | ||
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On February 04 2014 15:20 Alakaslam wrote: Last post by Jay Brundage makes sense I'm done fighting this thing, i'll be back when I can charge it or have a PC Please don't post on your phone again if its gonna be this nonsensical. Take the time to correct it on your phone and reread what your typing or just go to a computer | ||
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Lonemeow Your early posting is to be straight forward calling for a policy lynch. You state that a lurker lynch should be based on amount of content. Your content is lacking. You don't seem to have the initiative to put your own thoughts out there and make a real effort to find scum. Again this is about have a conversing with the thread. Your not doing it. There is no comment on any of the other things that happened. Besides some stuff about balla who voted ON YOU to pressure you to post more. And a speck of speculation on Koshi. Bare bones stuff not even. On February 04 2014 07:40 LoneMeow wrote: Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts. I have no foundation to create a town read on you this game. So your not playing the game with the intent of showing that your town and are making the game harder for all the other players involved. So based on the assumption that you don't want to get lurker lynched I propose the same thing I said to sidesprang. I would like you to create an arbitrary about of posts that you set for your self a little higher then your would normally go for, but something that is reasonable to obtain. To keep it clear I don't want you to spam. I want you to have have a clear intention with your post. I'll repeat that CLEAR INTENTIONS WHEN YOU POST!!! I realize I am repeating my self with my post to sidesprang and some might consider this fluff with no purpose. However if I feel its necessary to produce content and get the lurkers in here to post I'll do it till i get me some alignment reads on them. These are people we need more content from I would also like alakaslam to come and post some your posting last night was unreadable and made no sense. Get a computer and start reading up and posting. Hopeless1der you had two posts about nothing yesterday time to step it up. Sidesprang you never responded to my post about setting up a minimum post limit for your self. What say you? | ||
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On February 05 2014 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah I saw this too and thought it was weird. Jay, stop giving advice to all the scummy people and attack someone. Balla, I want to see stuff that is not influenced by my conclusions. What do you think about Cake and hopeless? It's day one this is the time to give advice. I want to give people the chance to produce content before they are threatened with a lynch cause they are unreadable and a liability to town. It feels early in the day to start a lynch wagon on someone. I rather keep feeling people out before going gungho on my suspected scum. | ||
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On February 05 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote: Oats is still hilarious. Dude this isn't the post I wanted to see from you. You have no content. Talk about something that happened this past day. | ||
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On February 05 2014 01:43 Balla24 wrote: Such conclusions. Really happy they didn't color my analysis there otherwise I would have been a huge sheep! Sorry dude. Looks more like you did the opposite. You asked an open-ended question because you didn't really see anything yourself, and then you said exactly what the people you asked said. +1 | ||
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On February 05 2014 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Or we came to the same conclusion independantly which says something about LM's alignment. HAH. Do you think Im scum? What you asked questions about Cake and Hopeless then you said the exact same thing balla said. Like you even called him hopeless shit when balla had refereed as to him doing jack shit. Where did LM come into this. What do you think about LM. | ||
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On February 05 2014 02:10 Alakaslam wrote: I understand this sentiment but I think you actually did understand my posts in a sense. I was UNABLE to edit them. That is what was so bad, I could barely get it to register a tap in the words and had to use talk text. That is why I stopped. Anything that didn't make sense I will try to clarify after I catch up and probably after work. it is still morning. jaybrundage you are rapidly convincing me you are scum. I understood them in the sense that you think im scummy and don't like some of my posts. However why you thought they were scummy is a mystery to me. I would love to hear your thinking. I still adhere to the fact that if you can't see someone's username and see who is posting what. That your reads are going to be terrible. I hope you can read the game knowing who is posting what. | ||
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On February 05 2014 01:43 Balla24 wrote: Such conclusions. Really happy they didn't color my analysis there otherwise I would have been a huge sheep! Sorry dude. Looks more like you did the opposite. You asked an open-ended question because you didn't really see anything yourself, and then you said exactly what the people you asked said. On February 05 2014 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Or we came to the same conclusion independantly which says something about LM's alignment. HAH. Do you think Im scum? Oatsmaster this quote coming from what Balla said makes no sense to me. Do you realize that the bolded part was him talking to you? He never said anything about LM in that post. | ||
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I like your case seems well thought out and pretty straight forward logic. The first big case of the thread :D | ||
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On February 05 2014 02:38 Alakaslam wrote: pffft. you all crappin on my styles ##unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster His flip may provide sufficient information in and of itself. If he is town, we take his posting to this point more seriously. Otherwise, oh happy day! He is not particularly townie so there should be no problem with this. So looking at my posting the thing that you might perceive as "scummy" Is that I am not posting my own opinion as much as prodding other's for information. And that is intentional I want to see more posting from lurkers that is my number 1 concern at the moment. I want to be able to separate the town lurkers to the scum lurkers. My other question is why did you vote Lonemeow but then vote Oatsmaster when suki and Balla made cases and votes against him. What was your initial intention to vote lone meow in the first place? Why switch over to Oats just cause thread sentiment is going in that direction. | ||
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On February 05 2014 02:56 Alakaslam wrote: What page are they on? I have caught up so I must have missed them. I disregarded anything related to my phone crap prior to now, if you or anyone want those flaming piles of dog feces explained I am here for a bit. There in the post you quoted. I was writing my response to your question and then I saw your terrible vote switch and I added that to my post seems pretty self explanatory. | ||
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On February 05 2014 03:30 Alakaslam wrote: And you still need answers? I am looking for reactions! And here you are asking questions you know the answer to, then getting upset when I don't bother because I know you know. Come now. Your getting a bit frustrating. If your not gonna read my post properly then don't play mafia. What was the initial reason you voted lonemeow. This was before your "Imma create a trap for zee scumzies" plan and you voted for oats. | ||
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Sidesprang you as well what do you think of the cases that have been brought forth. I shall return my town friends. | ||
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I want to lynch lonemeow. He claims that people should be judged on the content. But he doesn't bring much to the table. As a preface I was originally planning on pushing Mista Cake but going over his filter I felt that he was actively trying to figure out the game so I abandoned that suspect and looking over filters and players lonemeow caught my eye. He starts off the game with a post saying basically he doesn't post much and it doesn't seem like he plans to change. However the point of these policy discussions is that we should be striving to post more. Not even making an attempt at trying to improve his town play is scummy to start with. Here lonemeow is basically setting himself up to lurk the rest of the game. Content and Number of posts go hand in hand. If you only post 3 things a cycle your not gonna have much content. Even if your put alot of information in those posts it doesn't replace the ability to talk reads out with players and converse. And lets be honest Lonemeow doesn't even put alot in the few posts he has. On February 04 2014 07:40 LoneMeow wrote: Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts. Here is a classic scum post ask a question with out putting any content. Do you think this makes X town or scum? That's it. Notice that LM also comments on this because he was mentioned in the previous post. He does this more often then not making a comment on something if he is involved at all. He doesn't really care about reads. He just wants to appear to care. On February 04 2014 19:44 LoneMeow wrote: Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic? So here is Lonemeow's I would say one of his top posts. Which looking at the content is pretty disappointing. He says jonny gets hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when he is town. Ok great some new information. Chiming in on someone's tell's when there town while may appear helpful. Is easy to do as scum as they already know the alignment of said person. Of course as you can see in the second part of the post. Lonemeow notices that he is mentioned so he tries to defend him self. On February 04 2014 19:55 LoneMeow wrote: He's generally very hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when town, though, so I wouldn't read too much into that. I find it suspicious that he is angry about me "fucking off" then right in the next post says you're probably not posting because you're asleep - we both have country tags visible so he should've applied the same logic to figure out that I was probably also sleeping. Asking another question with no content. Also notice that the subject is about lonemeow as he doesn't usually venture to give much input on other topics. On February 04 2014 19:56 LoneMeow wrote: What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me? Gonna lump these under questions with out content On February 04 2014 22:04 LoneMeow wrote: Is there anything else about him that makes you think so besides the policy thing? On February 05 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote: Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"? On February 05 2014 05:31 LoneMeow wrote: Please point out where Koshi is misrepresenting and/or ignoring context. Yes hopeless1der not posting for a day after 2 contentless posts is bad. I think we all can agree with that. Easy to say as either alignment this as it is very obvious. He gives leaning town read on cake. Who is freely posting. Again easy to give town reads as scum. They know who is town already. Then he defends himself again. Showing that he just wants to defend himself. That's his biggest goal this game. To try to not post much content and make sure he can slide by. On February 05 2014 01:10 LoneMeow wrote: Hopeless1der has not produced anything that I find directly useful for deducing his alignment. Which, in itself, could become alignment indicative. cakemanofdoom seems to post pretty freely which makes me lean town on him, but I found this weird: Why did he single out me as someone who has not posted much and claim I'm scummy based on that, given that at the time there were many others who would fit the criteria aswell? So in summary I think Lonemeow is posting with the intention to remain unreadable . He has posted largely all questions with out interjecting much of his own opinion in the thread. He gives town reads but never suspects anyone as scum to date. He doesn't seem to want to be encouraged to post more although this can only produce more content for town which makes him easier to read and helps the town. When I made a post directed at lonemeow to try to set a goal for himself to post more often and with content. He completely ignores it. He rather just try to slide by with out posting content and make himself not readable. ##Vote Lonemeow | ||
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On February 05 2014 10:55 JonnyLaw wrote: Jay, what did you think of Suki's case on oats? I understand you like that someone finally put hard content in the game but what's your take on her views? I like the case as in I agree with it. I thought it did have good points. I said this is my post about it didn't I? \ | ||
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On February 05 2014 11:10 JonnyLaw wrote: That's fine. I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior? I find this funny. Should I come up with a scum like response? Also you do realize that I was making that case before you posted your "pressure" on me. | ||
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On February 05 2014 11:11 JonnyLaw wrote: The play feels so calculated. An attempt to lead the town without actually leading. This stuck out to me. Does making a big case not imply I want to help lead the town. Can you say what you mean here. | ||
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On February 05 2014 11:23 JonnyLaw wrote: I'm trying to talk to you Jay. You called Suki scum twice then change your mind once she posts a case on Oats. What do you think about Oats? You claim to like the case but don't say anything else. I want to know why. You've played with Oats before this game. We can chat about Lonemeow after this if you'd like. For now, I'm curious about some of your opinions. Yes I thought suki was scummy before. Her thing about not calling Jonny scum but interesting or what ever word she used did bother me. She just seemed to have no point to your posts. However with her case on Oats it showed that she wasn't just trying to appear to be posting. She actually was analyzing the game and looking for scum. So my read turned on her. Is it possible she's scum that noticed she was getting heat and decided to post a case? Sure possible. But I think the most likely possibility at this point is town. I don't remember Oats too well in my previous games. He was never someone I really suspected. He can be hard to draw a bead on sometimes. Not a huge poster mostly short clip comments. I even had to go back and look briefly at the LoL PYP game. I think the case made good points I hadn't noticed before. Oats was not on my lynch list before Suki posted her case. And she made a good enough case for me to consider lynching him. Also I felt the reason to make my own case because I want to contribute to the town. I didn't plan to just sheep Suki's read and just say yea I like all this Ill join. Because I wanted to post my own analysis I got's me an ego you know. Also by posting other scummy people we can choose as a town who we want to go for based on the information we have. | ||
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On February 05 2014 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Oh man jay why are you so concerned on what people think about you? The first step to playing town is to show your innocence. If people think your innocent then your one less mislynch and people will be more likely to listen to you. Like in LOL PYP I thought supersoft was scum on like day 2. But I couldn't convince anyone to vote with me. After the game someone mentioned to me that cause I looked scummy I was less likely to get support. Also I learned shit in the shadow game #learn #smrt #townielyfe | ||
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On February 05 2014 12:05 Oatsmaster wrote: it also makes you look like you care.more about looking like town than finding scum Why can't I do both? Did you not read my case on Lonemeow | ||
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On February 05 2014 12:03 JonnyLaw wrote: You don't need to sheep Suki. Post your opinion. "I like this part and I don't like this part." You're trying to tell people how to play and what to look for and then you have that post. You flip on Suki and at the same time aren't trying to convince people how to play the game anymore. ##vote Jaybrundage I have no need to defend oats. Oats can do that himself. I liked the case in general. Why should I nitpick when I have no need too. Can I not agree with a case? I liked the case. Its that simple. I agree with the case. I dont see how you don't get it. Yes I changed my read on suki. I'm trying to figure out the game. She made a good case so more likely to be town. | ||
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On February 05 2014 12:22 JonnyLaw wrote: The rest of it seems like normal Oats posts. Oats is doing whatever he wants. Oats seems more comfortable. Jay feels like he's buying town cred. Jay's leading the town over a cliff. I'm gonna go reread some filters. Ok lemme get this straight. You think im scum. But you don't disagree about my case on lonemeow. So what am I doing that is so scummy. If you say acting townie or some stupid shit like that. I won't be happy. On February 05 2014 12:25 JonnyLaw wrote: Of course not. I think he makes a lot of reasonable points. I can filter anyone and find reasonable points. I think Jay's scummier than LM or Oats. | ||
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On February 05 2014 12:37 JonnyLaw wrote: Scum can make a decent case too. I've said why I think you're scummy. You tell other players what to do and don't do it yourself unless questioned. Until your post on LM you said nothing all game. I really, really hate your post about suki. It's not about "oats defending himself." It's what do you think about it. It made suki town in your eyes. I get it. What do you think about the case and Oats? I don't care if you think Suki's town suddenly because of one post. You seem to be focusing to much on one post I made that you don't like instead of looking at my game play as a whole. On Oats I looked over his responses and saw that Balla thought they were good. When looking then over tho. I still don't find them to be great. | ||
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On February 05 2014 13:16 Hopeless1der wrote: I wasnt aware I had an established "entrance" meta. Oats, I wanna see this, please respond. Don't worry I'll OMGUS to your hearts content. Wow so your actively lurking instead of posting something with content. ##Vote Hopeless1der | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: jaybrundage, when you're around please explain why you decided to make your case on me instead of say Hopeless1der whose posting up to that point wasn't really any better? I made my case on you because your posting at that point didn't show much analysis from you. You asked a lot of questiions and gave a town read here and there. But until your big post recently your didn't appear to have any suspicions of scum. I didn't make a case on hopeless because he hadn't posted anything since his 2 posts. Being in the thread and not making any significant contributions is different then being afk for a long period of time. When I saw that he was actively lurking however and not posted any content I placed a vote on him because that is unacceptable. | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:31 suki wrote: ##unvote ##vote cakemanofdoom Hopeless is making sense. cake has been wishy washy all game. He bandwagons onto Hopeless, even though he thinks Koshi is mafia. He's ok with voting LoneMeow because LM is lurking. Like, he's taking the easy path. I read through his filter and I learn absolutely nothing. Like, it seems like he's contributing but when you really look closely he's not really saying anything that progresses towards a lynch. Even his case against Koshi feels non-enthusiastic. I was suspicious of Cake man of doom. Originally he was my first suspect for scum. But when I was trying to write a case on him. I felt that he was a townie trying to figure things out as opposed to a scum. I think that his reads were flexible and changing is a good thing. As townies who can see new things and change reads are more likely to be the ones trying to figure out the game. This post here is one that I didn't like tho. The lack of caring just set off alarms. A lynch should be something that is thought on and alot of consideration should go into it. Just dropping his vote, Not trying to figure out the alignment of the person he is voting is pretty scummy. And stands in pretty stark contrast to most other parts of his filter. What do you think Suki? On February 05 2014 16:58 cakemanofdoom wrote: Meh. Maybe, I guess. Actually, I don't really care right now. I'm fine with lynching Hopeless either way. ##Vote Hopeless1der Going to sleep. I'm also fine with lynching LM and Koshi. | ||
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It seems like he made was just pushing Oats back cause he needed to come back in the thread with something. After calling Oats scummy. He made up his own case so he wouldn't be blatantly sheeping. | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:48 jaybrundage wrote: Does anyone else think that Hopeless being gone for twenty four hours. Coming back and getting on the popular sentiment of oats being scum and the two cases on him. While also OMGUS'ing Oats is a bit suspicious? It seems like he made EDIT a scum read to just push EDIT Oats back cause he needed to come back in the thread with something. After calling Oats scummy. He made up his own case so he wouldn't be blatantly sheeping. | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote: I tried blatantly sheeping and got shot down Jay. I thought Oats was scum. Am I supposed to spam "OATS SCUM KILL IT" and leave it at that? I'm also not simply tunneling Oats to infinity. You haven't actually commented on the case. Can I get your thoughts on how you feel about Oats claiming everything early on re:Koshi was just pressure? I have gone back and forth on Oats. Right now I think him pressuring Koshi for content is a reasonable explanation. Koshi hadn't posted much beyond his early policy. After that he didn't really say much. His post when he got frustrated with Oats. Showed that Oat's pressure was working and getting to him. And thru that post Oats deemed him more likely town. The pressure had a purpose and that was to reveal Koshi's alignment and it seemed to have worked for Oats. | ||
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On February 06 2014 01:52 LoneMeow wrote: He was actually asked to make a case earlier and he had promised one: I'd call him scum if he didn't make one after that. Lonemeow do you not think him being asked to make one, isn't suspicious in it self? Also if your promise to make a case you better make it as either alignment or your just not playing the game at that point. | ||
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On February 06 2014 02:20 Balla24 wrote: Let's get some votes plz gogo everyone... only 5 hours to lynch~ Woah is it that close. What do you think about the lynch being on hopeless atm? | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:34 Hopeless1der wrote: In that case town sentiment is so wrong that I am obligated to keep myself alive as the sole voice of reason to salvage a terrible situation. You are wrong sir. As any faction, one should never roll over and die. I would of been happier if you felt obligated to not leave the thread for 24 hours. You must know why your being lynched. At this point I would just get all your thoughts out. In the unlikely case that your town. Acting like its town's fault for your lynch is a bit egotistical. | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:42 Hopeless1der wrote: woah I never said its towns fault for lynching me. I'm not going to cite the many instances where I self-depreciate my own play by calling it scummy because I do it in damn near every game. However, Balla is telling me I should kill myself to save town the grief of reading me later. Do you agree with him? I should knowingly allow a guaranteed mislynch to occur? If your playing the game and trying your best as town then of course you shouldn't just allow your self to be lynched. But you did kind of allow this to happen. You complete absence from the thread is very telling and the strongest part of why your getting lynched. I will say that in some cases of lurkers it would be easier to have them modkill themselves then have to waste a lynch on them. | ||
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On February 06 2014 03:49 suki wrote: first off modkilling oneself is not in the spirit of the game. second, you're all seriously pressuring Hopeless solely on the point that he was afk for 24 hours? He can't do anything about that now but he seems to be putting in effort now. Oh I agree completely. I am just being brutally honest. No I never said that was the sole reason. It's a big part of the reason tho. Other things are
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On February 06 2014 03:54 JonnyLaw wrote: I'm catching up in the thread. DO NOT LYNCH CAKE. I REPEAT DO NOT LYNCH CAKEMAN! DO NOT FUCKING LYNCH CAKEMANOFDOOM! I'll post more in 5 mins. That case is fucking awful. Yea hes not my preferable lynch either | ||
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On February 06 2014 04:11 Hopeless1der wrote: but not if I'm scum /waiting on Jonny's next post. I would prefer not | ||
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On February 06 2014 04:24 Balla24 wrote: @Jaybrundage What's your opinion of Koshi now? Haven't really looked to much into him. I'll take a gander and get back to you. | ||
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I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day. I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads. On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote: Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it... I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1. ##unvote ##vote: Hopeless On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote: LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill. Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny. | ||
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Here are the updated vote counts. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left. (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Lonemeow Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der - 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:37 Alakaslam wrote: Why, thank you- I guess this is working  Anyhow my rea on jaybrundage. If he saw my trap a mile away, why did he still go trip it? Why didn't he post like balla24 and/or point out it was a trap? Why does he want me to think he is scum- as either alignment? Yet he claims my stupid trap was blatant? Your "trap" was stupid. It was I'm gonna post random votes that look scummy and see who notices. Everyone who is currently in the thread is going to notice and should call you out. Scum can call you out or town. Its not alignment indicative. While finishing my post asking about your random switches. I thought to my self hes going to probably making some dumb "its a trap guys hurr durr" post. | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote: Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy. I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day. I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads. Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote: hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum. Here are the updated vote counts. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left. (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Lonemeow Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der - 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless. | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote: Jay tell me what evidence you have to believe I'd be a strong scum player? In comparison to Lonemeow you post more and actually make cases. | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:00 Hopeless1der wrote: @Jay That was all the content and direction you provided the thread in each of those reads. You fluffed up your posts with votecounts (which is scummy on its own btw) and you aren't pushing your own lynches, you're just casually floating along with the thread. It reads like "look at me I'm here and posting and want to help." without actually doing productive things. Posting vote counts is a null tell. I want the thread aware of where we are in regards to lynching someone and the host wasn't keeping it as up to date as i would of liked. I originally posted the case on Lonemeow. WTF are you talking about? I then wanted to get on you because your scummy for reason I have posted. | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:55 Hopeless1der wrote: ^ Reasons why Jaybrundage's vote on LoneMeow looks convoluted and bandwagony. Oh btw here was the case on Lonemeow I made. You know how i was first to vote him and create a case on him. I would of spoilered it or put a link but apparently you missed it the first time. Your reasons for my vote looking bandwagony is pretty idiotic : / Lonemeow I want to lynch lonemeow. He claims that people should be judged on the content. But he doesn't bring much to the table. As a preface I was originally planning on pushing Mista Cake but going over his filter I felt that he was actively trying to figure out the game so I abandoned that suspect and looking over filters and players lonemeow caught my eye. He starts off the game with a post saying basically he doesn't post much and it doesn't seem like he plans to change. However the point of these policy discussions is that we should be striving to post more. Not even making an attempt at trying to improve his town play is scummy to start with. Here lonemeow is basically setting himself up to lurk the rest of the game. Content and Number of posts go hand in hand. If you only post 3 things a cycle your not gonna have much content. Even if your put alot of information in those posts it doesn't replace the ability to talk reads out with players and converse. And lets be honest Lonemeow doesn't even put alot in the few posts he has. On February 04 2014 07:40 LoneMeow wrote: Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts. Here is a classic scum post ask a question with out putting any content. Do you think this makes X town or scum? That's it. Notice that LM also comments on this because he was mentioned in the previous post. He does this more often then not making a comment on something if he is involved at all. He doesn't really care about reads. He just wants to appear to care. On February 04 2014 19:44 LoneMeow wrote: Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic? So here is Lonemeow's I would say one of his top posts. Which looking at the content is pretty disappointing. He says jonny gets hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when he is town. Ok great some new information. Chiming in on someone's tell's when there town while may appear helpful. Is easy to do as scum as they already know the alignment of said person. Of course as you can see in the second part of the post. Lonemeow notices that he is mentioned so he tries to defend him self. On February 04 2014 19:55 LoneMeow wrote: He's generally very hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when town, though, so I wouldn't read too much into that. I find it suspicious that he is angry about me "fucking off" then right in the next post says you're probably not posting because you're asleep - we both have country tags visible so he should've applied the same logic to figure out that I was probably also sleeping. Asking another question with no content. Also notice that the subject is about lonemeow as he doesn't usually venture to give much input on other topics. On February 04 2014 19:56 LoneMeow wrote: What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me? Gonna lump these under questions with out content On February 04 2014 22:04 LoneMeow wrote: Is there anything else about him that makes you think so besides the policy thing? On February 05 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote: Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"? On February 05 2014 05:31 LoneMeow wrote: Please point out where Koshi is misrepresenting and/or ignoring context. Yes hopeless1der not posting for a day after 2 contentless posts is bad. I think we all can agree with that. Easy to say as either alignment this as it is very obvious. He gives leaning town read on cake. Who is freely posting. Again easy to give town reads as scum. They know who is town already. Then he defends himself again. Showing that he just wants to defend himself. That's his biggest goal this game. To try to not post much content and make sure he can slide by. On February 05 2014 01:10 LoneMeow wrote: Hopeless1der has not produced anything that I find directly useful for deducing his alignment. Which, in itself, could become alignment indicative. cakemanofdoom seems to post pretty freely which makes me lean town on him, but I found this weird: Why did he single out me as someone who has not posted much and claim I'm scummy based on that, given that at the time there were many others who would fit the criteria aswell? So in summary I think Lonemeow is posting with the intention to remain unreadable . He has posted largely all questions with out interjecting much of his own opinion in the thread. He gives town reads but never suspects anyone as scum to date. He doesn't seem to want to be encouraged to post more although this can only produce more content for town which makes him easier to read and helps the town. When I made a post directed at lonemeow to try to set a goal for himself to post more often and with content. He completely ignores it. He rather just try to slide by with out posting content and make himself not readable. ##Vote Lonemeow | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:37 cakemanofdoom wrote: Though I'm not sure why jay reposted his case on LM. I didn't like it that much in the first place, and LM's only been seeming more town since then. I posted it to make a point. Hopeless was acting like I just jumped on Lonemeow with no reasoning or thought of my own. Which is untrue. I do agree with you that Koshi is pretty scummy. I'm not sure about hopeless anymore. He seems to have alot of passion which is indicative of town. | ||
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I am not the scum your looking for however. I do understand your trying to get me lynched to save your life. I'm going to be switching to Koshi as him not caring seems pretty indicative of scum. ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi On February 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote: This wagon on me is a mislynch and jaybrundage is scum. This progressing is incredibly unnatural: Doesn't mention me as a lynch choice (despite having cased me earlier!) -> decent lynch -> votes me. I have convinced myself he's scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: jaybrundage | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:49 JonnyLaw wrote: You know switching to Koshi gets you lynched right? Bleh I wish i could see vote counts easier : / | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:52 Hopeless1der wrote: ugh dat claim doe....you didnt happen to crumb did you jay? no why would i crumb being doctor | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:52 JonnyLaw wrote: You're still lynched if you change back to lm. I don't know what to do with that claim. Its pretty simple. I'm not scum get off me. | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:54 JonnyLaw wrote: Fuck fuck fuck fuck you for claiming dr. I was so happy. ha ha your bad at this game | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:57 LoneMeow wrote: Do NOT vote me. His claim is fake because I am the doctor. If you still do not believe and lynch me, look extremely closely into the people who tried hard to get people to switch. SWEET We got confirmed scum here. This is great :D | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:57 Balla24 wrote: perfect now we lynch between JB and LM... confirmed scum woohoo~ 1 for 1 baby :D | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:59 Balla24 wrote: LITERALLY NO REASON FOR SCUM TO CC... LONEMEOW CANNOT BE SCUM. He was getting lynched anyway. Why wouldn't he try to cc then if by chance that you switch back to me. then they don't have to use a shot on me. | ||
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On February 06 2014 07:59 Koshi wrote: Just give up your teammates and we lynch you last. But im not scum ! | ||
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On February 06 2014 08:22 suki wrote: Jay I'm sorry for calling you a son of a bitch. Thanks suki lol | ||
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On February 06 2014 08:35 Balla24 wrote: FUCK I HAD FOOLISHNESS THIS GUY IS THE GREATEST COACH EVER!! I had gonzaw he posts alot its pretty nice :3 | ||
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jaybrundage
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On February 06 2014 08:36 cakemanofdoom wrote: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8DwpXD45Ps5V kita's cool. Thanks for all the help! um if you plan to play another game you might of not wanted to post that D: | ||
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On February 06 2014 08:40 Koshi wrote: My stepdaddy was marv and we were bitching about how fucking dumb it is playing scum. I really like marv because my real daddy sandroba never showed me love. You poor child. | ||
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jaybrundage
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On February 06 2014 09:26 Alakaslam wrote: JohnnyLaw sir I once proposed the SUP to Umasi He is not here atm Therefore I propose the Alalegal Alliance Union. Members are JohnnyLaw, Alakaslam, TBD Accept? I feel vaguely suspicious this is a group organized with the solo purpose of mislynching me.... >.> <.< | ||
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