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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 02 2014 00:39 GMT
#14
We get to be coached too hmmm.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 02 2014 00:42 GMT
#16
On February 02 2014 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On February 02 2014 09:12 Promethelax wrote:
On February 02 2014 09:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 02 2014 09:06 Promethelax wrote:
/replace

You're coaching, silly.

I thought we just watched and told them that they sucked post game? Isn't that how goes?

That was the original intention, but after the lacklustre usage of the coaches by some players I decided it'd be better to just have them be coached during their game as well for maximum benefit.

But Artanis I learned gud
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 02 2014 00:47 GMT
#17
I'm of the opinion that we should try to start this sooner. Could we try to vote on it?
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 02 2014 02:19 GMT
#20
The weirdest part of this game, is that we all already know our alignment. So unlike most pregame talk, we could use this time to try to read each other. I like it but I don't want to have an unfair advantage sooooooo. Yea. I am torn. Maybe have a imposed silence till the game starts. But then that takes out all the fun... of the pregame chat.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 02 2014 02:20 GMT
#21
On February 02 2014 10:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Well I say wait for Derrida & suki

I'm all for waiting till we have enough players confirm. I would just like to start sooner then next monday
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 03 2014 23:58 GMT
#98
Wassup guys. Koshi's baseline is post often. That simple. I prefer we don't get spammy and post mass one liners (As I tend to do sometime giving my current thoughts) But try to know what you are saying when you post as well. Have a clear intention.

We DO need to have pressure to make people who usually lurk (whether they be town or scum) post more often. So I like the guideline in general. So lets try to aim for 40 as a benchmark why not.

Balla is this your first mafia game? I was browsing some of this towns old games and didn't see you.

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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 00:03 GMT
#99
On February 04 2014 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On February 04 2014 08:45 suki wrote:
Apparently. also you have to take on a 'spam 40 posts a cycle' meta.

How does this make you feel?

motivated. And its not like there is anything from stopping me from literally posting

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40

if I were actually scared koshi (or anyone else) would follow through with it.

Is there anyone who is legitimately advocating for letting people lurk? I understand that its largely inevitable (hell, im one of the poster children) but we should still be making a reasonable effort to pressure people and get thoughts when they are around.

What are you trying to accomplish with this post? I disagree that its inevitable. If we as a town are all posting well and making concise thoughts then we could just find lurking scum on the wayside. It almost seems like your advocating to let people lurk. I don't even know why your bringing up you making numbered post. Of course that isn't acceptable do you even have to ask it?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 00:19 GMT
#101
On February 04 2014 09:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Jay, let me slippery slope this argument.

Suppose I invoke a policy that "I will vote the player with the smallest filter at 30 minutes to deadline".

How do you avoid drawing my vote? By spamming as much as possible.



How do you conclude that I'm "almost advocating to let people lurk"? I literally ask that question as a rhetorical because its implied that lurking is bad. Is this real life right now?

Why use a logical fallacy. 40 posts is a decent benchmark to strive to hit. I said we should try to hit it but not spam. There is obviously a middle ground. Implying that we should vote simply on the basis of posts was not the intention.

And no this isn't real life your playing a forum game called mafia
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 00:33 GMT
#105
On February 04 2014 09:27 JonnyLaw wrote:
Balla's played a few games Jay. Did his vote on LM then leaving strike you oddly?

This isn't even worth discussing anymore. No one's being lynched for having 39 quality pro-town posts. It's a fine benchmark.


I liked his vote on LM. I noticed earlier when i was going thru some players in the mafia database that his name wasn't anywhere. And his opening seemed like he wasn't new.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 00:36 GMT
#107
On February 04 2014 09:31 Balla24 wrote:
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On February 04 2014 08:58 jaybrundage wrote:


Balla is this your first mafia game? I was browsing some of this towns old games and didn't see you.




Nope. Just played LXIV which is ongoing, Normal Mini Episode 1, and the last 4 newbie games. Just search my post history for this forum and you'll find them. I'm not in the database yet.

Where you mafia in any of them?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 00:47 GMT
#110
Jonny as you have had alot of experience with Balla as scum how would you say he plays as a scum player. Whats his tells if you will

Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 01:34 GMT
#118
On February 04 2014 10:14 sidesprang wrote:
Lol wtf game started today afterall.

Anyhow regarding policy shit, not much to say, think it's covered allready. But yeh, look for content instead not postcount. We do NOT want ppl spamming useless shit.

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On February 04 2014 09:47 jaybrundage wrote:
Jonny as you have had alot of experience with Balla as scum how would you say he plays as a scum player. Whats his tells if you will

Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o


Why did you want Jonny to out Ballas scumtells in the thread this early before Balla even had a chance to play into them ?

Scum tells are much harder to change then it would appear. It isn't easy for balla to change his scum play on the dime so it isn't like its helping balla if he rolled scum this game. I would like to know for a point of reference for my self and for the thread so they can know what to look out for.

By talking with jonny even about basic stuff like this it can help me get a read on him as well. Day 1 is all about generating discussion. I'm sure if I hadn't asked this question and Balla had a similar game to his scum games and Jonny noticed this he would of made a case using his knowledge. So I can only think of good reasons to ask.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 02:25 GMT
#125
On February 04 2014 10:14 sidesprang wrote:
Lol wtf game started today afterall.

Anyhow regarding policy shit, not much to say, think it's covered allready. But yeh, look for content instead not postcount. We do NOT want ppl spamming useless shit.

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On February 04 2014 09:47 jaybrundage wrote:
Jonny as you have had alot of experience with Balla as scum how would you say he plays as a scum player. Whats his tells if you will

Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o


Why did you want Jonny to out Ballas scumtells in the thread this early before Balla even had a chance to play into them ?

Sidesprung you asked me a question I responded. There is alot going in the thread right now. I don't just want to see content I want to see some post count too. People are conversing, poking at one another a back and forth. You make one question at me and you disappeared. Don't you have anything else to comment on, or respond to my post or make a comment on another post or give your opinion. Anything really.

Dropping one post and leaving the thread is not the environment town should be fostering. Thru discussion like i was talking about earlier we can learn other alignments and discover ulterior motives. Ill give you somethings to post on.

What do you think of Balla's early vote on LM? Was it appropriate given LM"s posts?

What do you think of my response to your post? Does what I say made sense? Do you agree that I should have questioned Jonny about Balla's scum game or should I have not said anything?

Why do you think Suki poke at Jonnys two opinions? Do you think Suki got defensive after Balla inquired about her post? Why do you think Suki would post about jonny if not trying to discern if hes mafia or not? (These questions go out to Suki as well?)

Who is your towniest read at the moment? Who do you think is most likely scum? Do you believe in policy lynching lurkers? What is the lowest amount someone should be expected to post?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 02:40 GMT
#127
On February 04 2014 11:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
I want to play answer the questions too.

Suki always thinks what I say is scummy. null read.
no towniest read.
scummiest read - koshi
lynch the lurkers
post as much as needed to get scum lynched.

Suki claimed that she didn't say you were scummy tho.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:08 GMT
#142
On February 04 2014 12:03 suki wrote:
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On February 04 2014 11:25 jaybrundage wrote:

Sidesprung you asked me a question I responded. There is alot going in the thread right now. I don't just want to see content I want to see some post count too. People are conversing, poking at one another a back and forth. You make one question at me and you disappeared. Don't you have anything else to comment on, or respond to my post or make a comment on another post or give your opinion. Anything really.

Dropping one post and leaving the thread is not the environment town should be fostering. Thru discussion like i was talking about earlier we can learn other alignments and discover ulterior motives. Ill give you somethings to post on.


He's writing a lot of words that basically say 'Sidesprang I want you to post something'.
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What do you think of Balla's early vote on LM? Was it appropriate given LM"s posts?

What do you think of my response to your post? Does what I say made sense? Do you agree that I should have questioned Jonny about Balla's scum game or should I have not said anything?

Why do you think Suki poke at Jonnys two opinions? Do you think Suki got defensive after Balla inquired about her post? Why do you think Suki would post about jonny if not trying to discern if hes mafia or not? (These questions go out to Suki as well?)

Who is your towniest read at the moment? Who do you think is most likely scum? Do you believe in policy lynching lurkers? What is the lowest amount someone should be expected to post?


What's the point of these questions? Especially the last paragraph of questions.

This post feels like a lot of fluff and not much substance.

The point of the questions is to have sidesprang answer them ^^

What do you think was my intention?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:19 GMT
#152
On February 04 2014 12:05 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'd say it could feel like bussing scum buddy.


This is interesting. So why does it feel more like bussing a scum buddie (implying im scum) As opposed to trying to get a lurker to post.

I should properly preface this by saying that before the game as I was looking at some of the games from other players. I noticed sidesprang had a worrying about of posts in his town game. Perhaps like 2 - 3 posts a cycle and that was pushing it. I noted that and planned to put alot of pressure on him this game. I was considering trying to start a policy lynch on him with my first post to get conversation moving and put pressure.

But we had good thread conversation when i joined it. So i dismissed the idea and decided to approach him with this questioning. I want to see his reads.

And if he lurks like he does most other games we will have a problem so I don't want to let that happen. Here are his other games for refrence. I think the game where he posts the most is as mafia.


BloodyC0bblers Mafia XVI Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 sidesprang as the Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 Filter
TL Mafia XVIII Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 6 sidesprang as the Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 6 Filter
TL Mafia XX Town Miller Survived sidesprang as the Town Miller Survived Filter
Pick Your Power Mafia! Mafia Copycat Lynched Day 2 sidesprang as the Mafia Copycat Lynched Day 2 Filter
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:24 GMT
#155
On February 04 2014 12:10 suki wrote:
I think you don't really care about the answers, you just want to look like you're contributing.

How about you answer a few of the questions you posed yourself?

Oh I answered all those questions in my Google spreadsheet already. I ll post what I got on you guys so far. Its not all up to date on the recent things that happened.


1. Balla24 Town I like him so far very aggressive and making discussion and seems like a real player in this game
2. Sidesprang Bleh One post so far I knew he would be a candidate for a policy lynch and hes confirming that.

3. Alakaslam Posted 2 things with no content so far

4. cakemanofdoom no content There is quite a bit of things in the game atm and he chooses to comment on suki saying thats nice. Pretty lackluster choice

5. LoneMeow slightly scummy His first post sucked I don't like it at all and might be down to vote him just based on that. He followed up with basic policy stuff. I dont like him so far

6. Jaybrundage The towniest town that ever towned

7. Hopeless1der Meh we argued a bit over nothing hasn't posted any content tho so much is going on in the thread where did he go?

8. Oatsmaster Hasn't posted yet. I think at the start of the game is pretty late for him tho

9. JonnyLaw Pretty waffly at the start. He is posting but he doesn't seem to have firm convictions. He didn't liike Balla early but he has played with baller 3-2 times with him being scum so his suspicion is warrented. He hasn't produced much content tho he just seems like going with the flow

10. Suki scummy I don't like suki so far she just seems like she has no real motivation behind her posting. Her poke at jonnys waffleing was ok but then when balla inquired about it she said she never said she implied hes scum or anything LIke wtf? Why poke at someone but have no real reason behind it. It would seem that she didn't understand him but then she didn't say that she got very defensive. Said she didn't see anything with LM posting slight defending I dont like her atm

11. Koshi Posted some generic lets post alot then disappeared
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:31 GMT
#159
On February 04 2014 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:13 suki wrote:
And what reasons do you have for saying Jay is town?

he's trying to advance the game to find scum duhhhh.

Whats up Masta of the Oats?

Been a long time since we played ill have to look ya up. Tho I don't like the buddying atm :o
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:42 GMT
#164
On February 04 2014 12:29 sidesprang wrote:
People should post enough to be readable and enough to get their scumreads out. I don't belive in a set number.

So what im worried about is that as I have shown a good bit with my recent posts. Is that you aren't going to put enough posts in the thread that we can read you. Your games are testament to this. People have trouble reading you because of your lack of posting. If your scum you seem too put more effort into the game. (I can relate to this with my newer games as scum you have complete information and know what your doing, as newer town it sometimes just feels like your fumbling around in the dark)

So having all this in consideration. I would actually like you to set a post amount that you feel you should be able to reach with in a cycle. I am all about quality over quantity but we need a little bit of both. Set for your self a arbitrary number that you think is maybe a bit high but reasonable and try to reach that goal. Of course I want you to put thought and have a clear meaning in your post. I can not stress this enough. When you post something know what you want to accomplish with your post. I don't want you to spam. I just think you set the bar to low for your self in post count and I would like to improve this part of your town game.

What do ya say?

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 04 2014 03:44 GMT
#165
On February 04 2014 12:34 sidesprang wrote:
@ jay, dude go look at my 2 recent games instead of the 3 year old ones...

Newbie Mini Mafia, as Vanilla Town

II Titanic Mini Mafia, as Allignment Cop

This is more my meta, the others you will not learn anything from.

Sweet I will take a look at those. I posted my last post with out seeing this.
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