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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 02:11 GMT
#441
On February 13 2014 11:10 roundabound wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Every good game of mafia requires the establishment of connections

How did this player talk to flipped scum; how did that player unvote or vote; so forth and so forth.

I hereby announce the first rules of connection. Location + Post Counts
ShaioPi - Taiwan (2013)
DoNotPanic! - Canada (2)
JarJarDrinks - United States (904)
IAmRobik - United States (60)
roundabound - Niue (44)
VIVAX420 - "" (128)
gumshoe - Canada (1363)
Grackeroni - United States (3432)
QuantumPope - Canada (74)
Mattchew - United States (5480)
Mordanis - United States (733)
Sidesprang - Norway (947)
thrawn2112 - United States (5303)

and most importantly
Blazinghand - United States (16042)

Odds vs Even

Ladies and Gentlemen, 3 scum exist within the following subset:
ShaioPi - Taiwan (2013)
gumshoe - Canada (1363)
Mordanis - United States (733)
thrawn2112 - United States (5303)

Of this 4, thrawn2112 looks the best so far, mainly cos he likes to piss over his keyboard which makes him sexy regardless of alignment !

Thus, early braggers right: {ShaioPi, gumshoe, Mordanis}
EBWOP
~moc was here
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2014 02:19 GMT
#442
what did that post accomplish?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 02:32 GMT
#443
On February 13 2014 08:30 DoNotPanic! wrote:
Why are you attacking the try-hardest person in the thread Rayn?

This is the worst post in the game thus far.

Facts
(A) DNP considers IAR "try-hard"
(B) DNP chooses to query Rayn about attacking DNP

Issues
(1) What is DNP read of IAR? <- try-hard is not indicative of any alignment
(2) The question itself is so vague/open/non-specific that it goes no-where <- a feigned contribution
(3) Where is the follow-up? If Rayn is considered a town read, why ask this useless question
If Rayn is considered a scum read, why not pursue this further. <- again, feigned contribution

In short,
I can not comprehend the intent of this post.
I can not comprehend how this post helps in any way, shape or form to ascertain the alignment of rayn
and,
I can not comprehend why even a bad townie would choose to interject at this point in the discussion with something so useless.

Scum right here.

~moc

Unfortunately, my connection theory has been already proven wrong.. sigh

##Vote: DNP
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 02:33 GMT
#444
Take 1:
On February 13 2014 11:19 Mattchew wrote:
what did that post accomplish?

Nothing Mattchew.

~moc

Take 2:
On February 13 2014 11:19 Mattchew wrote:
what did that post accomplish?

The same thing yours did

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 02:49 GMT
#445
On February 13 2014 04:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On a different note, is there any benefit for us to discuss the type of game setup that this is, or how we figure it out. I'm fairly certain that the mafia will figure it out before us because they'll be able to quickly tell if it's A or D, or B or C. Probably more difficult for town to figure it out. Not sure how we go about this without revealing roles and whatnot. Feel free to discuss/ignore/etc.

I don't think this is required.
I think this has a higher propensity to lead town in circles Day1 or to give false priority to information.
Further, some aspects of the setup will naturally reveal post Night 1.

The priority should be to traditionally scum hunt.


On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
3) Another general read that I have from forum mafia is that people who haven't said anything and just come into the thread and just start dropping content bombs are generally scummy. It shows that you took the time to come and read and think about what you wanted to say instead of just coming in and saying something. I have no fear for speaking my mind cause I am town and have nothing to hide. So I just talk. Even a "hey, just got home, will do a quick read to catch up and then give my reads" is more towny. Again, I could be wrong, but that's the impression that I got from past forum mafia experience. FOS!!!!!

I think you are town currently based on sheer activity, hence why I am responding to this.

I think its a treat everyone as apples/oranges mental shortcut and is going to quickly lead you down the garden path.

Voice mafia is inherently a quicker game, and thus often rewards mental agility.
Forum mafia is an opportunity for many players to be more critical of their thought patterns. This alone does not make someone scum. In fact, analytical type players are often very valuable players as town.


On February 13 2014 07:30 IAmRobik wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 13 2014 07:18 roundabound wrote:
Okay so IAmRobik given you were so hard on going after lurkers early on in the game how come you don't question Mattchew & QuantumPope now? One of them has unanswered questions and instead of answering them he jsut posted some crap and QP made a shitty couple of posts (yes, i totally disagree with them being "townie because no fucks given") and peaced out. There is also Grackaroni who hasn't said much anything of value.

Why single out thrawn of those people and now that your (apparently?) pressure on him has been answered satisfactory why are you not following with your eagerness to read people and your own scumhunting methods you started the game with? Like you called out people lurking or scared to post 1h into the game, what about those people now?

~rayn

1) I'm not comfortable analyzing QuantumPope at this moment, but I will agree that he's town.

This is dumb. If you are not comfortable analysing QP, why are you lumping him into a category?
That is a rhetorical question if it wasn't clear.

The point I am making is: you are a very vocal person in this game. 3 pages of filter already.
Stuff like the above, is better not said @ all.
If QP is town, it doesnt prompt him to elucidate his townieness to players not familar with him.
If QP is scum, it encourages him to remain the same.

I realise reading further down that you and Rayn bicker over this; I still think the above is worth pointing out.
As it applies to all future loose reads bandied about too.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 02:57 GMT
#446
@QP
There is a knowledge triangle between yourself, Mattchew and IAR.

Substantiated by:
On February 13 2014 07:37 QuantumPope wrote:
If there are two people who I trust to read me correctly in this thread it's Mattchew and IAmRobik as they have had the most interaction with me outside of this forum but being able to read correctly can also lean mafia. I have null reads on both of them at the moment.


Note their opinions of you:
On February 13 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote:
I think QP is town. I have my reason for thinking that. I don't know if it's right or not, but I think it.
On February 13 2014 05:40 Mattchew wrote:
quantum probably town too


Did you expect both of these players to "town read" you with so little analysis?
Further,
Mattchew is my achilles heel.
What is the secret to reading him?

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 02:59 GMT
#447
On February 13 2014 07:36 ShiaoPi wrote:
wanna kill the abomination known as vivax/kush hydra? I am feeling really itchy...
#Vote:VIVAX420

Maybe a stupid question, hopefully not.

Twas this a vote with intent to lynch?

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 13 2014 03:00 GMT
#448
Man, you're so much more pleasant to talk to and so much more logical that your alter ego. I believe that the only reason that I brought it up was because I was discussing the fact that I liked Mattchew's reads regarding both QP and Vivax. "you" asked me to explain my reads so I did. When I was probed further I felt I had to give a bit more. I don't want to give my exact reads on why, but there was something that I noticed that I read as towny. Maybe I read it wrong and QP is maf...but for now, based off of the information that I currently have, I think he's town. I don't know why I have to go into an in depth analysis of it. As you all can tell, my style is to post often and to contribute my opinions to things as they happen, so that's what I'm doing.

As for your comment with regards to being critical of thought patterns and being mentally agile, those two things are not mutually exclusive. I think that a player who is able to post early and often in a non-convoluted way, whether I agree with the reads or not, is more likely to be town than mafia. As for coming into the game and insta-pinging someone, well I think that's kinda scummy. It might just be because my style of play is to try to build myself a big town circle and then lynch outside of it rather than pinpoint specific people who I think are guaranteed scum. I think it's easier for mafia to come into a game and try to get a mislynch than to come in and try to find some people that they think are towny.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 13 2014 03:37 GMT
#449
Hi robik

I came into the game and "insta-pinged" dnp.

Do you classify that as scummy?

~moc
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 13 2014 03:39 GMT
#450
you're roundabout, right?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 13 2014 03:39 GMT
#451
roundabound*
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 13 2014 03:57 GMT
#452
k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play.

I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.

Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this:
On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back
I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 03:58 GMT
#453
On February 13 2014 12:37 Mocsta wrote:
Hi robik

I came into the game and "insta-pinged" dnp.

Do you classify that as scummy?

~moc

For filter

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 13 2014 04:04 GMT
#454
On February 13 2014 12:58 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 12:37 Mocsta wrote:
Hi robik

I came into the game and "insta-pinged" dnp.

Do you classify that as scummy?

~moc

For filter

~moc

I don't know. I do think that the argument between me and rayn was just two town fighting and everyone was silent for the most part because they didn't want to stop us from going at each others' throats.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 04:08 GMT
#455
Yes that is a possibility and gives further credibility to my issues with donotpanic.
He did nothing to allay any throat ripping.

Instead, announced his presence and did nothing with the spotlight.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2014 05:46 GMT
#456
On February 13 2014 04:18 sidesprang wrote:
ATM we can't figure it out, even if we knew the amount of boxers, I think atleast. So I see no reason in starting that debate atm. Just wait untill we get some flips, and then it might be usefull.

Just waste of time atm.

this is the most mafia nervous post of the game so far.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 05:57 GMT
#457
On February 13 2014 14:46 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:18 sidesprang wrote:
ATM we can't figure it out, even if we knew the amount of boxers, I think atleast. So I see no reason in starting that debate atm. Just wait untill we get some flips, and then it might be usefull.

Just waste of time atm.

this is the most mafia nervous post of the game so far.

I don't get what makes that mindset mafia specific.

Town ruminate on setup all the time??
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 05:57 GMT
#458
~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2014 07:28 GMT
#459
On February 13 2014 14:57 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 14:46 Mattchew wrote:
On February 13 2014 04:18 sidesprang wrote:
ATM we can't figure it out, even if we knew the amount of boxers, I think atleast. So I see no reason in starting that debate atm. Just wait untill we get some flips, and then it might be usefull.

Just waste of time atm.

this is the most mafia nervous post of the game so far.

I don't get what makes that mindset mafia specific.

Town ruminate on setup all the time??

it reads as super nervous ATM
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 13 2014 07:43 GMT
#460
Personally I find his faux vote of mocsta and not roundabound to be more synymous with mafia play. But whatever floats ya boat.

Frankly I don't understand your read nor the metric. Not that I disagree per se, I just can't follow how you got there.

Let's see how this pans out. Hopefully sprang replies to your accusation.

I'm also curious why you find that comment overall mor damning than the post from DNP?
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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