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raynpelikoneet
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VE, suki, thrawn, zarepath, Crossfire99, Wile E. Coyote and kush are town. So that leaves not much options.. Artanis is the weakes scumread, but still possible. Dunno where to put the rest 3 (BTB, bum, JL). JL scummiest, next BTB/bum equally scummy. cases inc before night end. hopefully those people say something before the night ends. | ||
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On January 23 2014 03:04 suki wrote: No hard feelings  I just got upset because I'm really disappointed in my play so far.I'm out for a while.. probably won't be back until after the deadline. lol being wrong on D1 is not terrible at all. But i get where you are coming from since i have the same feeling every time i mislynch. | ||
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On January 23 2014 03:39 bumatlarge wrote: Honestly I choose not to interact with because it would be awkward after coaching him. So there is something to what you are reading into. I don't like to lynch/kill new players early to let them play the game. I don't care about vets or myself going in blind since we will come back eventually. New players can easily be discouraged if they are lynched early. This is one of the worst reasonings i have ever heard about not interacting with someone... | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On January 23 2014 03:52 bumatlarge wrote: Well that's up I you. Just because you play for yourself spent mean I have to. So tell me, why are you not interested in interacting with "new players"?? What is the possible town motivation for that? I can somehow understand giving them leeway and not considering them as lynches on D1 or something but not interacting them?? What? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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I have no idea where you stand on with your suspicions atm. | ||
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On January 23 2014 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn are you of the opinion that I don't ever do anything? Be honest with me. No. I nthe last couple of games you have imo been close to that but not this game. You have done a lot in this game. | ||
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In LXIV you were circle jerking with WoS and while you DID something your thoughts never entered the thread. My honest opinion. <3 | ||
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On January 23 2014 04:04 bumatlarge wrote: JLaw reminds me of his PYP scum game, but I've only read suki's posts on him, which I can't trust if they are valid quotes apparently, because I'll get blamed for them You still have that town read on artanis? What's this about JL? I don't understand.. I am not decided on Artanis Where did your scumread on VE go? I thought you never let go of that on D1. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Here: On January 22 2014 07:37 kushm4sta wrote: so what happened is i thought i was a named VT and only named vts got names. On January 22 2014 07:38 kushm4sta wrote: I thought omg rayn is claiming named vt like i am On January 22 2014 07:38 kushm4sta wrote: then rayn said "everyone gets named" i looked back and noticed i was green On January 22 2014 07:40 kushm4sta wrote: I THOUGHT i was named vt just because i had a name. I didn't realize normal vts got names. This makes me think he is town, because it makes sense based on what he said and how he acted at the start of the game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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You can't interact with newbies (which one of them happened to be mafia) because of some policy. You are "not allowed to call VE mafia" because of idk wtf??!?! what...are....you...doing?!?!? what are you allowed to do? | ||
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screw people who say you are not allowed to call someone scum. If you think VE is scum call him scum. | ||
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On January 23 2014 04:20 bumatlarge wrote: It would have to be after night time, but I'll get to it This is really crappy because tbh you look quite bad atm and if mafia kills me and you are town you look even worse if you don't talk to me now, before i die. | ||
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On January 23 2014 04:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Can someone explain to me how I didn't answer the two questions bum asked me in his spoiler? He keeps accusing me of not answering them, when I quite expressly did answer them, so I need some help understanding because I'm too REALLY REALLY UNINTELLIGENT to figure it out. It does not matter. Do you think he would push you like this as mafia? He would know you are town (unless you are both mafia ofc, which i find impossible), why would he do this all? | ||
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On January 23 2014 04:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Welcome to the cool kids club. You said you had a townread on Alaka that you couldn't explain and that he deserved to get lynched. Personally I'd rather just win. Why did you have a townread on him? His claim and all the jizzledizzle around it. Same as kush basically. | ||
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On January 23 2014 04:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Why not? Why do you think he wouldn't? Of course I think he would, because he is and I think he's mafia. What a weird question. But WHY? Going against all the odds when people don't listen to him, he just makes another fucking big ass post noone understands (when people already think he is suspicious because of his attack on you/me). Why? This reminds me a lot of when i accused marv in Desert. Lemme find my thoughts on it then. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 21 2014 11:46 bumatlarge wrote: VisceraEyes. Read below. If you do not answer sufficiently, I cannot, as a town-aligned player, ever take my vote off you. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: 1) I'm not "blindly agreeing" with bad analysis, if you think the analysis is bad then that's cool whatever, but I don't think it's bad, I agree with it. I mean, just because you think it's bad doesn't make it bad. So this point is, as bum said, very null. Where do you get off that this is a good rebuttal. This is the fluffiest thing I have ever read. This is such a poor over-reaction, when I was merely expecting an explanation to your affirmation of Rayn's post on me. You gave me NOTHING. 2) This doesn't make me scum or town either. Rayn made a post about bum, one I agreed with, and kush was receiving some flak from rayn for not doing anything so I asked him to comment on the post about bum. Because bum hadn't been back to comment on the case there wasn't much to add as far as Bum is concerned, so I'm not sure what he's expecting here. This point also doesn't make me scum. I'm further pushing an explanation that you still have not given. I actually don't care why you asked someone elses opinion, I wanted yours! I want to not have this be my issue but your obsession with beating around it is baffling. 3) More nullery to justify bum's scumread of me. I was discussing the plans OTHERS brought forth. If the ideas were so "asinine" then why not bring it up with the people who brought up the plans? Why is my commenting on them worthy of your lynch? Because it appears intentionally distracting, when your vote is on me! You can understan that your blathering bothers me when you are voting me for what someone else said. You haven't commented on that, and you haven't commente on my defense. It's either lazy or anti-town, and you nee to STOP IT. I consider the matter closed. Unless Bum has some actual reasons to think I'm scum, I strongly urge you guys to vote for this guy. Nope and nope. Not when there is no explanation. In our, "Bum the Scum" gallery, we see the OMGUS blossom into full blown tunneling. On January 21 2014 04:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Elaborate on your issue with me plz Artanis. Why is my vote on Bum bad? Bum isn't reading the thread, while accusing others of "skimming". He agreed with suki's analysis calling me scum for having "inconsistent views on Kush's plan" when in the posts in question I was actually referring to TWO different plans...and then calls me scum for "blindly agreeing with bad logic". This is pretty cut and dry Artanis. Bum is scum. You should be voting for him. Not making aimless jabs at me. I admitted that your quotes were misconstrued by suki, but I didn't use any of that when I analyzed you here. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2014 01:47 bumatlarge wrote: In this chapter, we will be looking at both Raynpelikoneet and VisceraEyes. A Bum Emersion Fanfic[/red On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here are bumatlarge's posts: green: believes claim red: says claim is fake which is it? This is a question that has been answered twice in the thread already. Useless "contribution" or not even reading the thread. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. TLDR; Here's what bum's posts say this far - Does believe the claim but does not believe the claim - Says VE is scummy but VE is not necessarily scummy - Asks a question that's been answered 2 times already. ##Vote: bumatlarge Rayn, next time you grow the balls to analyze me, do me the common courtesy of reading it before you post so I don't have to waste time answering it. From now on if you have a post that you took 3 seconds to scrounge together an you want me to chime in/repspond to it, I'm not going to if I don't think you are trying. 1 - Completely misread 2 - Completely misconstrued 3 - Who cares? Oh look the exact same amount of effort! On January 20 2014 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oops okay, i misread the red colored part so ignore that. However it does not really matter as that's not really any sort of contribution as it says nothing useful. VE, scum don't need to claim anything at all at this point of the game. Why do you think that's the case? kush why am i town? Oh, I'm completely wrong. but I'll take "minimal blame an keep my vote where it is" for 400 Alex. On January 20 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have literally disagreed with every single thing VE has said in this game, how is it possible for you to have a town read on him? WHAT KIND OF AWFUL ANTAGONIZING STATEMENT IS THAT? Only you would come to a conclusion like that. Either Rayn has no interest in winning or applying himself, yet insists to post whatever pops into his hea into the thread, or he's mafia. You'd think I'd vote for him, BUT THERE IS ACTUALLY SOMEONE EVEN WORSE. VisceraEyes ladies and gentlemen! On January 20 2014 22:51 suki wrote: I think Rayn is stretching a bit with his conclusions but that he's pointed out Bum's general attitude this far: Bum is sitting on the fence in general, and he's not contributing to scum hunting. Bum, who do you find scummy and why? Rayn's inane posting visibly having its effect on people. I'm allowed to be somewhat reserved in the first hour I enter the threa suki. And even then, if you read my posts, I am clearly not on the fence. The only thing holing me back from lynching VE is that I know he can be silly sometimes, but even afterwards, it perpetuates in all his posts even after the fact. On January 20 2014 22:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah that all looks really bad. I'm assuming this is referencing rayn's post. I have to restrain myself from calling this the worst post, because I've witnessed townies doing this. Rayn makes a post about me. All of it is wrong. VE in the most generic and assuming way possible, agrees with it. Again, I've seen a townie do this, and I want to be sure about this. I mean, VE might have just skimmed it an be reconsidering agreeing- On January 20 2014 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you think of bum kush? I liked rayns post on the matter, and agree he looks bad. What do you think? On January 20 2014 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I think the timing is such that it is more likely to be a scum fakeclaim than town, but I'm not 100% sold on it. The more we talk about it, the more I can see a townie just not caring what he said earlier, and I guess it's less likely that scum would do something completely against what they previously went on record saying. I can give Slam more time I guess. ##Unvote ##Vote bumatlarge Alright, I can't ignore this blatant display of anti-town. 1. Blinly agrees with bad analysis. Maybe that's subjective, and I'm biased because it is against me. I'd make this point null. 2. Fails to support his own view, AND PROCEEDS TO ASK SOMEONE ELSES OPINION ON THAT. Looks like he wants to talk about it, but has no interest in actually doing that. Why not ask someone else to do it for you while doing nothing yourself? I don't even think VE planned it out that way, it was just instinct. 3. This asinine persistence to post about VT claims that have nothing to do with day 1. WHO CARES WHOS CLAIMING IT. It one of the most dead-end conversations I have ever seen. And it's WIFOM. Anyone can say it with 0 detriment, and I would have no opinion on it as of right now. PSA: BUM IS A CLAIMED VT. THAT IS ALL, CONTINUE SKIMMING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY READING THIS POST. YOU DUMB BASTARDS ##Vote VisceraEyes So you can't say my analysis doesn't hold water because I misread someone else's misconstrued analysis of you, because I never referenced it. On January 21 2014 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote: rayn what are YOUR updated thoughts on Bum? You accuse him of being wishywashy, which I agree with. I think that the wishy-washiness combined with the terrible cases on you and me makes him scum. On January 21 2014 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote: So? Neither of those "easy route" things make me scum or even scummy. Who cares if they're "easy"? Does that make the points I raise any less valid? And what if Bum is scum Artanis? Just because bum attacked me first, am I supposed to go after someone else just because bum is "too easy" now? Or Wile, just because rayn attacked him first, am I supposed to find a different target just because Wile is "too easy" now? Even if he's scum? These points don't make any sense. On January 21 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Artanis look at it this way: bumatlarge should know better. I'm getting a lot of flak because of others' expectations of me, and that's fine I guess, but why are people not holding bumatlarge up to the same standard of play? Or higher? Bumatlarge is one of seven(?) players to have played a game on this site for the last SEVEN YEARS. And the cases on me and rayn are what all this experience has yielded? I know that he's completely wrong about at least half of his reads, and the reasoning he gave for having that particular read is fucking TERRIBLE. Do the math guys. This is such a hard tunnel when you haven't presented your case properly. And you start clogging the thread up with nonsense when artanis points this out. You go so far as to attack my mafia experience when I'm trying to generate a better read of you on day one. DAY ONE. You have some nerve if you aren't mafia. On January 21 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: In fact it's bumatlarge who is OMGUSing here if you wanna talk about OMGUS. Oh and fails to contribute nothing else also. Random rayn post, lol wtf rayn? Ok, VE. I want as minimal a chance of you really screwing the pooch because I have no interest lynching you if you are just being exceptionally awkward as town. 1) Can you elaborate on what you agreed on with rayn about me. I have asked you multiple times and instead of answering, you threw an OMGUS tantrum, that I can't fathom why you would. ITS NOT EVEN HARD TO ANSWER IF YOU ARE SCUM, which assures me that you are just refusing to do it for whatever misaligned reason. Here is rayns post again. On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here are bumatlarge's posts: green: believes claim red: says claim is fake which is it? This is a question that has been answered twice in the thread already. Useless "contribution" or not even reading the thread. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. TLDR; Here's what bum's posts say this far - Does believe the claim but does not believe the claim - Says VE is scummy but VE is not necessarily scummy - Asks a question that's been answered 2 times already. ##Vote: bumatlarge 2) Why am I scum? I'm not being malicious in anyway here. I just want to hear what is so mind-blowingly scummy that you would threaten to policy lynch artanis for calling me the towniest player. Please give me something beyond that I called you scum, and I wouldn't do that as town, because then I would magically start seeing you as a townie. And that's all. Your last twenty posts about me I will just let slide because I have no desire to keep having this argument. Honestly, even if you are mafia, I'd rather keep you around and get a better read on you to be sure, but the nature of your posts do not let me do that! On January 21 2014 12:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Mostly I'm just wondering about why that's in a spoiler if you honestly feel like I'm being unreasonable and are trying to lynch me. Instead it makes me feel like you have something to hide. Honestly. Here's my response to your two questions. 1) Your response wasn't even a response. It was literally just you adding the phrase "he is mafia because of this" to everything you said jokingly. Like, it fooled rayn, but I'm objectively looking bum. Imagine that. Rayn was right, the way you put that entire post is strewn with verbiage that implies that you KNOW I'm capable of this kind of play as town, but you're certain enough to lynch me first. Over everything else and anyone else. You know I do these things as town, and there's nothing in any of your posting that gives any reasoning for being so certain. Everything you mention, you know I do as town as well. So why me bum? Why would me not having much to say about you be scummy? Why would me asking someone else about you necessarily have anything to do with what I think of you anyway? Why can I not be trying to judge HIS alignment based on what he says about you in conjunction with my own thoughts about you? These are all questions you'd have or want, but you don't. You aren't interested in my opinion at all. You vote because you don't like me, by policy. And now you're making shit up to try and justify it. 2) THAT is necessarily scummy to me bum. THAT is why I think you're scum. In conjunction with you blindly agreeing with suki's analysis of me without even reading the situation or my posts at all, you are now trying to make shit up in a spoiler to justify your failtunnel on me. Eat it bum. I don't care if your vote never leaves me. And now it's personal. ##Unvote ##Vote: bumatlarge Gimme 20 min. Sauna. Also go voice mafia? I heard Holyflare is naked. | ||
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