TL Mafia LXIV: The Restart - Page 5

On January 28 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
#Vote: raynpelikoneet

BH is going to be a mislynch.

I will lynch QuantumPope who is really likely to be scum.

Generic list of reads with no reasoning. Then he calls people out for not giving reasoning. Instead of talking with BC about his reads / lynch targets he calls out other people. Alot of (well pretty much all after the first post which was bad) his comments are defensive and imply inherent guilt and insecureness. Like;

Wh00ttt? Points out his own posting is bad.. He is okay with people calling him out of vanishing but it wasn'treally vanishing?!?! Last sentence does not really say anything, because he didn't really even discuss any reads with BC. It was just "why those and not these people" and then the conversation ended, at least on his part.

Gratz you just did that with your 1st post.

On January 28 2014 05:54 QuantumPope wrote:

Not a soul has spoken to me.



I feel like I've missed out on a significant amount chatter behind the scenes but apparently a lot of people are making assumptions based on PMs. I've been trying to give the best reads possible with the lack of information. In my opinion, I am trying to play this as honestly as possible with giving all my reads to the thread. If anything I'm just disappointed that you don't seem to be reading me as town BC. My reads have changed though and I'll give my final scum reads written here:

Skanjab1s - Claiming to be PMing people who haven't been involved yet I have yet to see anything from him so that makes me suspicious. Not liking his "experience" reads, especially on a player just joining the fray.

StorrZerg - Seems to be taking a lot of his content to PM and not sharing it with the rest of the crowd. His reasoning for not voting BC just seems off to me and I feel like I'm not getting the whole picture of Storr's play.

tehpoofter - Max lurk.

VE - feels fine in my books but I don't really know why he doesn't think BC is town.

bum - Just seems to be reading off of BC's reads but he really didn't give explanations for his own. Did not enjoy this.

As for my vote:

BC seems extremely active today now and his specific attacks on people who are claiming things in private seem very town to me. While I don't agree with his lynch on BH or his read on myself, I think his overall reads are leading town in the right direction. He seems to know the majority of the players in this game and seems to have well established reads on them.

VE would be my second choice.

##vote BloodyC0bbler


This post was much more rushed than my last one but unfortunately I don't have time to do much more than this. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have either in thread or PM.

Original Message From bumatlarge:
Yeah pretty much, i dont have the IRC logs. I've spoken with him since then. It is possible is was trolling as town, but I didn't like it.

On January 28 2014 02:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK heres how things stand.

I have suitably been given enough Information via thread and irc to consolidate my read for the day.

IF elected, barring any shenanigans between now and the deadline, I will lynch BH.

The reasons for this are simple.

First off he "shared" Alakaslams role for no reason to VE. He has been unable to justify this to anyone I have talked to or to myself. Its day 1, and its fucked up that he would do it as town.

Secondly. He said he was planning on going out of his way to find a suitable candidate for the day and push them as he didn't want to be elected. He has then with "prodding" decided he was going to actually run. However this was over a day between these posts and he never at any point recommended anyone vote for one of the other candidates.

His scum read of VE is incredibly weird. He apparently trolled VE which got VE understandably confused. Then based on irc/in thread BH thinks VE is scum primarily in regards to a case Mocsta made. But never provided a new point of his own. He never clarified why he believes one of mocsta and VE has to be scum and the other town and how he made that differation.

Also his entire play has changed from the last 3 games hes played. In LXIII he was a third party assassin. In the first version of this game he was a town mason. In both those games he played a clearly distinct style. He is now showing a third style of play this game. Given he went third party, town, and now we have a third play style I am suspecting its scum.



The only other person I am currently considering as a suspect is storrzerg. His interactions with me were incredibly weird, and i know the general opinion of him from those he has played with before is that hes scum. I also know hes been far more active in pms than the thread thats fishy as fuck.

On January 29 2014 06:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



Basically the lynch went like this

BH and Rayn did a huge last spurt vote swing onto Rayn to try and get him to be mayor. People Continued to vote for me. The camps seemed very polarizing on the BH and Pope lynch. (although there was a point where VE was up for getting shanked).

Now, I was dead set on offing BH however, the way the last minute voting worked to ensure a BH lynch was fucking weird to me. Factor in a ton of players that I know are decent were all harping on me for my read of the guy so with those factors I opted to go elsewhere for a target. However I looked at the voting. The two worst offenders for making sure I won and my lynch choice got through was GG and Storr as one last second voted and the other jerked around in thread able to change things but did it too late.

Of these two I have had odd interactions with Storr, I know he was commonly read as scum this game by more than 1 person and his behaviour throughout the day / voting period kinda pushed me in his direction.


As for why I didn't lynch Pope. At the time I didn't trust (still dont fully) BH or Rayn. I have made that clear already. As I didn't trust them I didn't take their read into full consideration at the time nor did I have a ton of time to make the decision. However Rayn being pissed I didn't kill his choice and calling me scum for it is just weird.

On January 29 2014 06:35 Blazinghand wrote:


i've never known rayn to get angry ever

On January 29 2014 06:37 QuantumPope wrote:

I never tried to discredit you. I kindly asked why your play seems to have changed and all you posted was a condescending comment not explaining anything.

On January 29 2014 06:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



Why are you demanding them? Ive yet to see you offer me fucking information from your magic circle of trust. You also made a massive mistake in your post. I never refused to give you logs. I just haven't given you them because your being a demanding asshole. I literally have no reason to trust you currently. However I will share shit once the day has started. However unlike your demands I will post them publically.

On January 29 2014 06:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hey rayn just a question for you but you have a fun post I like to point at



I know I lynched storr and thats my bad, however you fucked up your read of him too. You can be pissed at me all you want but you were also fucking wrong. Maybe you should take a step back and realize if you can fuck up your reads you might want to be less aggressive and take a closer look at the ones you have.

On January 29 2014 06:51 QuantumPope wrote:

"SMB" Mini Mafia
and
Normal Mini Mafia: Episode 1

Your aggressive tone was used one people who were inactive more than people in the game. You have aggressive moments but from what I've read it's never so absolute like you going on me. I appreciate the pressure though as I feel it lets me explain myself better.

On January 29 2014 06:58 QuantumPope wrote:


Was it your personal attacks or was it your play? I don't find your pressure on myself nearly as aggressive as anyone in those games.

I've gone back and looked at some of your previous games and you're not as aggressive as this.