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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:20 GMT
#893
On January 18 2014 01:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Grack has the BH-color that tells me to ignore him. On top of that I really dislike him as a d1 lynch. Yes I know we lynch for mafia and not for information but I just don't like lynching people like Grack or lurkers on d1, people that give a freepass to everyone who wants to vote for them.
I couldn't possibly hold it against someone if we lynch Grack and he flips town.
At the same time I don't think there's a person on earth who's stupid enough to only do what he does as mafia so, despite really having the urge to "deal" with him I don't think it's that alignment indicative so he's still in the null/retard faction.

People like Grack make for much better vig targets than for lynch targets. We obviously don't know if we have a vig but no need to lynch that d1.

okay, so why am I your lynch choice then?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:27 GMT
#895
yes, resolving confusing things, such scum tactics. Bystander effect somehow DOESNT apply to Grack? get the fuck out of here.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:28 GMT
#896
also your reasons for sn0 DO NOT WORK. At least, not on sn0, there is no scumgames to compare against and he has shown time and again that he has no confidence in his Day1 play and he is often wishywashy. You cant reasonably have him as anything in your spreadsheet if you were actually reading the game or reviewing his meta.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:34 GMT
#901
i'm saying your sheet is bullshit and you're scum toad. Is that clear enough? is that direct? have I taken a fucking stance now?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:36 GMT
#903
No kush, we're not, but that doesnt stop sn0 from being town
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:39 GMT
#906
grack are you really a doctor? if yes, why should I believe you? If no, why shouldn't we lynch you?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:43 GMT
#907
On January 18 2014 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 01:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
i'm saying your sheet is bullshit and you're scum toad. Is that clear enough? is that direct? have I taken a fucking stance now?


if that's really what you thought all the time, why didn't you say so? why didn't you ever push me the last 36-or-so hours?

because you recently said that sn0 is still yellow/orange when I already told you he can't be scum for the reasons you've provided. I'm scummy, grack is "BH-color" what the fuck does that even mean. This is why grack trolls like this, he gets away with it. Thrawn said this at the very start of the game
On January 16 2014 10:23 thrawn2112 wrote:
I wrote this a million times when I bussed grack in some normal.

He deflects suspicion by trolling/joking so don't let him get away with it.

But no one is holding him to any standard of play worth reading.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:47 GMT
#909
fuck off sn0, grack is a way better lynch than me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 16:57 GMT
#913
On January 16 2014 12:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
no, id rather you explain to me how you anticipate a townread based on your actions

This post nullifies thrawn's case. I wouldn't even give Pandain a chance to do anything. I'm offering Grack a chance to not be a complete piece of shit. He neglects to answer and throws the ball back in my court.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 17:29 GMT
#938
On January 18 2014 02:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 02:19 kushm4sta wrote:
Vayne, hopeless filter is inflated because he has been under pressure, which understandably has induced him to try hard.


hold on I have to go look at time to die then

at what point do you believe kush when he says I have been under pressure?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 17:38 GMT
#943
##unvote: kushm4sta
##vote: Grackaroni
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:09 GMT
#1029
On January 18 2014 04:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know what the case on Hopeless is?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440800&currentpage=40#789

I saw you mentioning kush's #4 and stopped reading. I also don't like the most important thing you consider there to be is in spoilers.


nice. don't read case. call case bad.

rayn you are so good at this game

you never ever let your arrogance influence your reads, no definitely not

and you wonder why i was 100% serious about putting it to the test when he said we could lynch him if kush flipped town.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:10 GMT
#1031
On January 18 2014 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Hopeless doesn't normally act like this. He seems to have this mindset of it's him against the world going on right now, and I think it's quite scummy.

you wanna fight doc?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:12 GMT
#1040
On January 18 2014 04:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know what the case on Hopeless is?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440800&currentpage=40#789

I saw you mentioning kush's #4 and stopped reading. I also don't like the most important thing you consider there to be is in spoilers.


nice. don't read case. call case bad.

rayn you are so good at this game

you never ever let your arrogance influence your reads, no definitely not

No, the post where Hopeless votes for kush because of me is pure bullshit and if you don't see why Hopeless could do that as town you don't know what you are talking about. If that's the backbone of your case the case can't be good.


Actually rayn, I don't think he was sheeping you. I think he was serious about lynching you if kush flips green. I see no reason in his filter that makes me think that he trusts you or town reads you enough to sheep you. The reasoning he gave was pure stupid, which is because scum need pure stupid reasoning to lynch townies. Why does he abandon his grack scum read for that?

because you diverted people off grack to "give him room" and I saw the opportunity to watch rayn suck bag
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:14 GMT
#1042
On January 18 2014 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know what the case on Hopeless is?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440800&currentpage=40#789

I saw you mentioning kush's #4 and stopped reading. I also don't like the most important thing you consider there to be is in spoilers.


nice. don't read case. call case bad.

rayn you are so good at this game

you never ever let your arrogance influence your reads, no definitely not

No, the post where Hopeless votes for kush because of me is pure bullshit and if you don't see why Hopeless could do that as town you don't know what you are talking about. If that's the backbone of your case the case can't be good.


Actually rayn, I don't think he was sheeping you. I think he was serious about lynching you if kush flips green. I see no reason in his filter that makes me think that he trusts you or town reads you enough to sheep you. The reasoning he gave was pure stupid, which is because scum need pure stupid reasoning to lynch townies. Why does he abandon his grack scum read for that?

Yes and i am like 99% sure it has to do with the Blazinghand incident in last game and Hopeless is just being an idiot.

dingdingding rayn wins. Now lynch Grack. Also figure out what that doctor claim was, hes not going to talk to me about it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:21 GMT
#1048
On January 18 2014 04:17 Grackaroni wrote:
lol so when it's about a claim he wants to talk to me. And when it's about the game he doesn't need to talk to me because he is already convinced I'm scum.

note how he's avoiding the question. Its not complicated. I even broke it down into bite-sized pieces:

On January 18 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
grack are you really a doctor? if yes, why should I believe you? If no, why shouldn't we lynch you?



On January 18 2014 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless who is scum besides Grackaroni?

Toad, Skanjab.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:27 GMT
#1053
On January 14 2014 23:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
no rayn, the most retarded thing you've seen is BH shortly after that, where he modkills his friends and breaks the game. Basically at your request. Thanks for playing.

On January 14 2014 23:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i am the worst player ever when "confirmed townies" are the most anti-town players in the game, do retarded shit when they can easily avoid it, then proceed on modkilling their mason group. On top of that they don't even try to play the game.

Fucking brilliant.

hey i tried to play in my way, and after a fashion. You were the one who refused to consider me confirmed town for dubious reasoning.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:37 GMT
#1059
I told Toad there was no basis for his (meta?) read on sn0 since sn0 has never rolled scum. Using the reasoning that wishywashy statements come from scum doesn't apply to sn0 since in every town game he's played, he has similar statements. He pulls one post from WC2 when at MYLO (LYLO?) sn0 finally has to play (so did I if you remember correctly, it was my case sn0 was responding to) after days of information. There is again, no reasonable comparison to this game the way Toad has framed his case.

He goes on to say how I'm the only other player thats 'yellow/orange' on his sheet when we have Grack doing nothing, cephiro being afk. Toad is opportunistically trying to bandwagon on me and doesnt give a shit about pushing anyone because both me and sn0 are mislynch targets, and I was leading the votes.




skanjab is a weaker read but basically his case on sn0 was garbage and his followup explaining the way he makes his cases is using scummy and selective reasoning.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:41 GMT
#1062
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:51 GMT
#1068
On January 18 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard.

it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else?

If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc.
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