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Nah not gonna make a case.
Why? Because I can do it as town and scum so it doesnt prove my alignment. And I dont need to convince anyone right now of my scumreads cause its night.
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On January 24 2014 16:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok I revise my reads.
Hopeless and skanjabs are scum.
Sn0 is town. Vayne is town.
Ah I misread. I thought you wanted to know why I asked that question.
Hopeless fakeclaimed to avoid getting lynched.
Im really quite confused Rayn, what exactly are you angry about?
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Yeah Oats is mafia.
100% lynch him tomorrow.
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Sure Rayn. Sure.
Do you think that people will blindly sheep you when you die and I am alive defending myself and pushing my scumreads? I dont think so. Try harder.
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Yes i think so because there is no possible town motivation for you to NOT make the case now, because the "worst" case scenario is that you are so right mafia kills you which eliminates a suspect and gives us a better starting position to D4.
So, what's the town motivation to NOT make a case now? You really fucking think you are gonna get shot regardless of what you do? lol..
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Lol you serious bro? I think im NOT going to get shot whatever I do unless you and ceph are scum. At this point, scum dont shoot people who are right, they shoo confirmed town and people who look really really town
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Yeah i get shot tonight.
So why are you refusing to make the case now? Is there a reason i can't read it? Why?
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Look Oats there are 2 possibilities:
1) You have a reason why it's beneficial to town that i am not allowed to read your case. Given that i am almost confirmed town for leading a mafia lynch on LYLO i can't think of a reason why it would be beneficial to the town to have me read and comment on the case.
2) You don't have a case and you are mafia refusing to put up something that does not stick or can't face questioning.
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so, in case of:
1) what's the reason?
2) you can get lynched.
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You have 2 scumreads right? Can I write anything to.change your mind? Why dont you write 2 cases on your scumreads for almost confirmed town ceph to read and comment
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Again, why does it matter if i do that or not? I am asking you to do it.
If i am a stupid townie who does not do that why do you feel like you need to be too?
See, here is the problem i have with you. You are not trying to resolve the issue, you are countering it with "no, you".
*and for the record yes, i will do it, as soon as i have time to actually do something properly so that i don't talk shit out of my ass*
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And here is another thing that's really important. You have Hopeless in your scumteam. You are not willing to elaborate on reasoning. I would really like to hear that, because i can't think of any reasoning why Hopeless' claim is not true in your opinion other than if you want to claim blue. So, if you are going to do it, then do it now so we can actually resolve it before the deadline because the ONLY reasons why i think Hopeless is town is his claim and his D3 play, which was so townie imo.
I can't believe mafia had a vigi and a roleblocker (and if you think that's bullshit why are you not lynching Vayne?) and town had ONLY a parity cop. If you claim blue on D4 you should be lynched by default. If anyone claims blue on D4 they should be lynched, because they need to reason why they did not doc thrawn on N1, because let's be honest, that was the ONLY possible night kill for mafia, seriously.
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Oats if you are town please work with me here.
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uhhhhh Im not blue.
Are you asking me to make a case to prove my alignment or to convince you of my scumreads?
And actually I think his D3 play is the scummiest and his day 1 play is the best.
I keep saying 'no, you' because most of the time, you are saying something Im not doing or did that YOU ALSO didnt do or did do that I am scummy for. You cant call me scummy for something you also did or didnt do.
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Both, to have a better clue of your alignment AND to convince me of your scumreads.
Do you realize he is an un-cc'd blue in a game that mafia had 2 "blues"?? If Hopeless is not a veteran there MUST be another town power role. Otherwise the game is imbalanced. Man use your brain...
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If you look at it from my perspective Oats:
I am MOSTLY confirmed town. I think Ceph/Hopeless are clear.
There is 2 scum in you/Vayne/Sn0/Skan. I need to find them. I have this night phase as i am pretty sure night kill. ANYTHING anyone of those players say helps me. I might be on a wrong track, so convince me. Because after MY reread i'd say you and Vayne are mafia.
If you have something to say to that, other cases, new info, i am open to listening. But now, with what i have, this is where i am..
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On January 25 2014 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both, to have a better clue of your alignment AND to convince me of your scumreads.
Do you realize he is an un-cc'd blue in a game that mafia had 2 "blues"?? If Hopeless is not a veteran there MUST be another town power role. Otherwise the game is imbalanced. Man use your brain...
Im not saying there is only 1 blue. Im saying that the remaining blue isnt necessarily hopeless.
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Hey I'm here, I'm quite surprised koshi flipped scum, to be honest.
rayn, could you tell me why you think hopeless is town, apart from the vet claim he has been pretty scummy to me this game
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Seriously. Can you tell me why Hopeless is NOT legit veteran?
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There have been quite a few points against hopeless that I agreed with earlier in the game.
I'm too lazy to find them or remember what they are at the moment, but I do remember that i liked them.
I just wanted to know if you had any reason for your townread of him beyond the vet claim that can't really be verified.
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