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I'm leaving to go climbing in two hours though so it may be a while before I'm fully caught up | ||
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Valenius do you have any scum reads, everything you have in the spoilers seems to be "i don't understand what you're saying" or "town" | ||
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Right now I'm ok with a valenius or layabout lynch, gotta read through tambo filter cause someone on the last page said they wouldn't mind splitting the vote between tambo and layabout | ||
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On May 22 2014 05:19 geript wrote: I challenge anyone and everyone to find one useful think Scumeling has said this entire game. I dare you to try the impossible. i dont think steve has said anything particularly helpful but it's not like he's pretending to either | ||
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right now i'm gonna ##vote layabout cause he's probably the most boring/useless person in the game so far | ||
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still happy with a layabout lynch in the two games i've had with cav his existence as town has been as an angry mole so i'm comfy with calling him town tambo's sketchy, valenius still hasn't responded to my question or to this thread at all beyond talking about setup speculation. valenius do you have any non-null or non-wussy reads | ||
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since getting back i've read pages 78 through current, haven't read that much of stuff before i replaced in (page ~75) but have read a few filters | ||
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On May 22 2014 14:15 Cavalinho wrote: Game 1 = Voted town, reanalyzed, voted scum. Game 2 = Tunneled out of the game, voted by more people after claiming parity cop. Good thing you're so good at representing what my past games were like. lol game 1 sure you voted scum but it was almost completely out of the blue since all of your posts basically said "i hate amiko", spent no time pushing your scum read game 2 still tunneled, not sure what you getting MLd has to do with the fact that you like to focus on one person while typing swear words at them | ||
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what do you make of valenius cav | ||
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i looked at current issues and who was getting discussed a lot then i went through filters and asked myself if i agreed with what was being said, or if what i saw in the filter made them scum | ||
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talks about stuff and people without drawing inference towards alignment all speak to "contributing" but not actually doing so so yeah layabout's #1 and valenius is #2 | ||
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blueyd, what makes you think tambo is a stronger case over anyone else, especially when you hadn't mentioned him... her... xir... whatever... before your last post | ||
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On May 22 2014 14:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Tking out the editorial flare that geript gave his post he actually has a decent point, why are you calling burini a bus? That implies you think/know burini is scum and you suspect/know other scum are on the list voting for her. this is a pretty cool question whatcha got steve | ||
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On May 22 2014 22:50 kitaman27 wrote: OnceKing is pretty vanilla so far. Possibly opportunistic on layabout and steve "scumslip". Would maybe settle on him if there isn't a better choice. Trying to find an alternative wagon to tamburini so it isn't a blow out, but I've kinda skimmed passed the stuff on her in the meantime. Will probably take a closer look here next. if i'm vanilla then why would you pick me lol why not poof, you said he's had the holy trifecta of things scum say but you don't seem to be investigating that too much | ||
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or valenius | ||
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On May 23 2014 01:37 Hapahauli wrote: Cool. Why? I'm sorta thinking about lynching you right now to be honest. layabout actually pushing his scum read instead of just wasting time waffling about in his posts, ritoky doesn't valenius doesn't either but he's even worse because he hasn't got any reads other than town and null, there are just so many polarizing people in the thread i don't see how you can come away with nothing | ||
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so do you wanna lynch valenius or no kita | ||
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so what makes him a more suspicious fella worth suspecting over anyone else? | ||
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i still think valenius is scum and i think his reduction of the stuff i have on him to "hes shit so hes scum" is pretty disingenuous though | ||
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Cav's a town read for me and he doesn't seem to think Valenius is scum so I can give him the benefit of the doubt for now ##unvote ##VOTE: OdinofPergo | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote: He honestly did. Like a "Hey, no one's voting me now, I still have one day" type thing. I think tambo is a procrastinator. procrastinating scum or procrastinating town or procrastinating null? | ||
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cavalinho doesn't think valenius is scum and he states why a bit after that it's entirely possible valenius is just a slow starter so... benefit of the doubt i just thought bh's case was better | ||
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who is "he" if he is me then yea... so what. i still think valenius is scum but i accept that he might be a slow starter and think the case on odin is better if he is cav then... idk what you're writing LOL | ||
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valenius (2) - kita, sqrt yell0w (1) - poof bunnies (1) - cephiro hf (1) - wos layabout (1) - ritoky poof (1) - tambo tambo literally had a pointless throwaway vote, i'd be glad to see him die kita wanted a lynch on blueyd but his vote is on valenius (?). didn't say much about odin, explain this? sqrt brushed aside the case on odin saying that he thought odin was vt, didn't say much otherwise. poof, cephiro, wos, ritoky afk (though wave and ritoky said they were gonna sleep so i don't draw much adverse inference from that) pedit: saw sqrt's list of late switchers kush changed before bh's case xatalos thru hf changed after bh's case hapa changed after making this post even though valenius didn't really post anything worthwhile everyone else basically sheeped BH's case (i mean it was good) post flip definitely dislike tambo more as well as one of valenius/hapa (moreso valenius atm) and afk people (poof, cephiro) dont know how i feel about kita or any of the people who sheeped gonna head out for a bit when i get back i'll be rereading | ||
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tambo + Show Spoiler + do we still need to talk about this guy oh his thing on how to do a vote analysis in this game draws no conclusions, then when he's pressed for conclusions based off of his observations/what he says we should do he writes a twisted spiel that doesn't do what's asked of it. Basically that post says "im town, people who unvoted me are town, im not being very clear". None of that says anything specific or helpful, and it seems like he's just trying to cover up a lack of contribution with a lot of words. scum ritoky + Show Spoiler + mostly uncomfortable with the fact that the last known tambo sighting in his filter was "getting a lot worse in my mind" and then he dropped the subject like a hot potato on toppa that his later final suspect list was between WoS and layabout, and his reasoning for either is either sketchy or not specific this is the post: On May 22 2014 19:48 ritoky wrote: Well, I am going to sleep and I am not sure if I will make it back before the deadline. For me it's between WOS and layabout. WOS contributes and I basically don't like much of anything he says. Layabout doesn't contribute, and when he does its mostly shit filling. Gonna go with layabout. ##vote layabout he wants to lynch WoS cause he thinks WoS is wrong. since when is someone scum just for disagreeing with you? he wants to lynch layabout because he's "shit filling". ok... shit filling how? is it by only posting +1s and jokes? is it by not giving reads? he doesn't say any of that or specify how layabout's posting is shitty, he just calls it shit filling cause other people already said he was shitting up the thread and hoped he wouldn't have to explain it. probably scum WoS + Show Spoiler + it's all basically meta... i don't know enough to say whether this is good or not i dislike such heavy use of meta but it's a pretty legit scumhunting tool, i really just wanna defer to opinions of others on his prior posting. we'll see how the replacement does. his feelings on ritoky are the same as mine but that doesn't really mean much. null cephiro + Show Spoiler + townish atm just by looking at his filter. i think he's writing stuff that makes sense though i don't necessarily agree with his conclusion on bunnies. i need to read the back and forth more carefully so the jury's still out on how i feel about both him and bunnies poof + Show Spoiler + lots of discussion about RNG with BH, then this reaction to being called a newbie feels legit i like him for town, he's pushing discussion and his reads and he also addressed cephiro's case on bunnies with the same argument that i had reading through it the first time (i townread people all the time for thinking what i'm thinking as town). kita, i know you said marv allayed your initial suspicions of him but i'd like you to tell me why you didn't like him to begin with in more detail kita + Show Spoiler + decent amount of posting, no real positions taken. he suspected poof for committing the unholy trinity or whatever but in the very same post said that he's not convinced poof is mafia (despite the fact that he committed the unholy trinity??). he's just super soft on everyone -- doesn't wanna lynch jampi, says a bit about HF but doesn't wanna lynch him, no hard position on tambo, so on so forth actually the more i think about this the more unhappy i am with him, he dodged a question also about the counterwagons for tambo by posting stuff about characters from Golden Sun, kinda-not-really pushes BlueyD... i'd like everyone to take a closer look at him. probably scum sqrt + Show Spoiler + posts a whole lot of lists and one liners, from what i recall this is pretty much what sqrt has done as town in most of his games. would like for him to go more in-depth on stuff though null to town other stuff BlueyD On May 23 2014 07:45 BlueyD wrote: Are you kidding me? We actually lynched the RNG target. What the hell. You're all bad. Only had time to check the lynch, Will be back later. are you kidding me? you don't do anything then come back after the lynch to bitch at us without even reading the thread and immediately peace out again Valenius still think he's mafia until he does something to convince me otherwise (spoilers: he hasn't) | ||
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like, if you thought it was a terrible idea then why weren't you around for almost a whole day to stop it from happening? more than likely is scum wanting to say "sheep me, i knew this was wrong" but instead of actually pushing the idea that it's wrong you wait until after the lynch when it can't be changed anymore to whine at us. | ||
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but before I do, I'll bite. why? | ||
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guess I'll check through his filter and stuff when I wake up in the meantime can I get you to read through kita's stuff? Maybe you could have a more meta perspective on him but he feels really timid and not pushy at all with his reads this game which I don't like | ||
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On May 24 2014 03:32 layabout wrote: "dude" your first game of mafia wasn't even student it was the 80 player one @ hapa cephiro was one of if not the first players to move the discussion into the realms of because of A and B player C is Mafia so what that's not alignment indicative in the slightest | ||
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i mean on top of everything else like end of day shenanigans or meta differences or whatnot the guy basically on pops up when someone says his name and he has to defend himself then goes back to lurkerland | ||
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On May 24 2014 04:21 Hapahauli wrote: (snip) Consider this: I am a factional player and I believe Valenius to be of another faction. Why would I not attempt to tunnel my top scumread to death and push my objective? Hell pushing Valenius would point MORE to be being mafia in this game. (snip) On May 24 2014 04:12 austinmcc wrote: This makes it appear that Hapa doesn't actually have a real read on Valenius, because his read/vote never develop in the right way. People who don't have real reads are making them up. Making reads up is bad and a mafia thing. you're not addressing his case/premise he's suggesting that valenius is not actually a real scum read | ||
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in the meantime i feel pretty safe just plopping down my vote on tambo | ||
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On May 24 2014 05:08 geript wrote: Wasn't OnceKing a lurker mafia in one of his minis? ooh saw this first yep kinda? the game you're talking about is Newbie Mini Mafia LIV and i'll admit to completely lurking all of day 2 or whichever the completely inactive day was but other than thought i feel like i talked a fair bit | ||
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setup speculation's pretty lame, BH wanted to let us know something, great, we don't even know what it really means how about we catch the mafia instead like tambo or as... whoever it is has been saying, kush I don't think I've seen kush post anything useful they're all stupid statements like On May 24 2014 06:46 kushm4sta wrote: wat there is recruitment this game also??? are you fucking kidding me. scumhunting is 100% useless so good luck with that | ||
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cool with lynching: - tambo - valenius - kush - ritoky i needa read through thrawn's stuff though looks like a lotta people don't like 'im | ||
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cav who are your scum reads? | ||
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i have no idea how i feel about blueyd now. his defense strikes me as being super genuine and i feel good about mosta his reads buuuuuuuut what erandorr says in these three posts are also good points. i see some people are having doubts on kush and are skeptical cuz meta case/people jumping on the wagon super fast. whether the case is meta or not doesn't change the fact that kush is objectively being scummy independent of the meta stuff, and we have still over a day before the lynch goes through so there's plenty of time to chinese fire drill/see if counterwagons and stuff start cropping up | ||
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someone tell me why thrawn is scum or town, same for matt/fool hydra while i go read their filters | ||
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i'm not really seeing why thrawn is giving off worse vibes than kush to you austin but i guess you got that interaction thing (or lack thereof) going on so yea i'm probably pretty confirmation biased about kush being scum atm, i'm worried about what this might mean since what austin writes makes sense to me so i'm gonna take a break to step back and reevaluate | ||
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not actually a catch... maybe? reading through the filter the post in which he writes tambo before asking who tambo is was just a broken quote tag. oh wait going back to check then he says he couldn't say anything about jampi/tambo in the same post hmm dunno could go either way on this | ||
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sorry i haven't been around, last two days have been pretty hectic for me other people who have dropped off the face of the earth: tambo, valenius, thrawn off the top of my head i mean yeah tambo and valenius have posted recently but that doesn't change the fact that they're still just trying to just get by now uncertain on ritoky. the defense "feels" genuine but i can't really put my finger on why; looking at his big post it's pretty much just commentary and i don't really agree with his reads lmao. i dislike the defense of yell0w and hapa's standpoint makes sense to me. if you've got an actual strong scumread there's no purpose to go with rng over a read. so after today's lynch, ok with lynching: - tambo - valenius - thrawn - yell0w | ||
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i want to lynch so many people right now it's ridiculous | ||
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just because i haven't written out miles-long cases doesn't mean i'm just making up shit to vote with why is it a problem that my lynch targets are people that are quieter wow onceking is looking for mafia inside of people who don't post much/lurkers, what a terrible player. after all mafia never lurk so looking there is stupid right?? i was on your case before because you never posted any hard reads and this was the first real read you've had all game and it's an omgus | ||
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"woo i submitted my homework, one person i think is scum. alright my obligation is done now c u tomorrow" | ||
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kush (2) - matt/fool, slam thrawn (3) - austin, xat, steve jampi (1) - sqrt yell0w (2) - hapa, tambo ok (1) - valenius first thing i guess i'll do is address valenius Valenius did you just ctrl f my filter for "vote"? Again I haven't written out super long cases or anything but my votes actually do have reasoning behind them -- if you actually read my filter then you'll see them. I voted kush based off of the fact that he hadn't posted anything productive at all and is publicly discouraging scumhunting. I took him off my would lynch list before because his defense made me uncertain but I'd probably vote for him again. I'd already discussed tambo a lot so I dunno what you're on about there, it's not a great example at all. I sheeped my vote off BH's case for odin because as I've already said I thought it was a good case. The fact that I want to lynch quiet people is... not at all alignment indicative. You're right in that I haven't been making really concerted pushes on you though. Right now I'm not entirely certain whether you intentionally cherry picked my stuff or whether you genuinely aren't reading what I'm writing. It's a little uncomfortable because I'm reminded a lot of NMM LII when Lord Tolkien and I were at each other's throats the entirety of d1 and we both turned out to be town. off the top of my head I'm pretty curious why slam voted kush, Digging through his filter he seems to have scum feelings on kush here: On May 25 2014 03:22 Alakaslam wrote: I understand what you are saying but I still get dem skum pheelz from Kush From Thrawn they are stronger though and all before that but soon it gets reversed to a town feel: On May 25 2014 15:42 Alakaslam wrote: Well until shot lands I keep saying stuph. Like I think thrawn is scum y'all, maybe kush but he give me the townfeelz Possible explanation: kush's ##shoot thing. I don't particularly find that alignment indicative either way so someone's gonna have to talk to me about it. I know why and steve voted thrawn and I agree on a thrawn lynch. There's not a lot to say on thrawn that hasn't already been said, he does ninja votes and says a bunch of useless stuff, having promised stuff before and then never delivering on those promises so I'm voting him as soon as I'm done writing this post. I feel bad for letting tambo slip by for yet another day though lmao sqrt and tambo I would like to tell me about their reasons for voting on their targets. | ||
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well ok then | ||
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i woulda never caught HF in my life | ||
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http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/cSHGSbKGGXSX/p48.32#QTmsg40 i love this idea | ||
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policy lynching is kinda hard when you're supposed to be hitting scum too | ||
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On November 07 2008 17:06 Ace wrote: The A spectre is haunting Teamliquid—the spectre of Mafia. All the Powers of gg.net and Teamliquid have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Ace and other mafioso, the scourges of freedom and twinkies. Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as Mafia by its opponents in power? Where is the Opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of Mafia, against the more advanced opposing townies, as well as against its reactionary adversaries? I will tell you where they are. Dead. Dead by the very hands that write you this note. Empyrean Caller Fishball some other guy I can't remember right now And if you want to live. You should follow my advice. Play your role accordingly, and we won't have to kill you by accident. If you are confused about your role, then let me spell it out for you: I. Mafia,Townies(Vanilla) and "The Blues" The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Mafia and Towny, blue vs green, red vs blue, McDonalds vs Burger King, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary re-constitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes. My dear green townies, do you not see what they are doing? The Blues are thine enemy! They have oppressed you for hours! Taunting and teasing you about their status, their so called "roles". They think they are better than you! They even feel as if they DERSERVE and have the god given right to live longer than you my friends! They want you take the bullets, but will not speak up and fight the good fight! They want to take the credit for doing easy things like "investigating" but will not man up and make a single POST in unison with you! They tell you how to vote, who to vote for, and if you aren't careful where you can stick your wee-wee and in what! They call you stupid when you are just trying to help! What kind of world is this!? A man wants to be a hero but is not willing to be the martyr!? RUBBISH I SAY! They are COWARDS! Reds and Greens! We can win this together! They call us your enemy, but we are your friends! We come to liberate, not decapitate. The blues are hiding amongst you trying to tell you they will give you their lives - but it is the opposite! 1 blue man dared to spit on my good name, and he cost 4 greens their lives. My friends, together we can rout these devils out! If you are with me, to fight the good fight, and free ourselves of this oppressive blue state then holla if you hear me! *crowd goes wild* LET US MOVE FORTH IN THIS NEW MOVEMENT! LET THE BELLS OF FREEDOM RING! LET US MARCH ON TO VICTORY! AND THIS, THIS NEW DAY IN HISTORY, THIS NEW RISING OF THE WORKING CLASS WE SHALL CALL - THE MAFIA MANIFESTO! Amen. ~ Kace Marx except instead of emp and fishball it's austin and kush | ||
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