Golden Sun: The Lost Age Mafia Djinn Edition - Page 180

On May 24 2014 13:29 Holyflare wrote:
I do not care about that.





He has 24 hours between saying good night and returning with hello and commenting on useless bh post. Nowhere does he state he didn't have enough time to read. Apparently he is around enough to display confusion at a post when it is posted but not enough to point out anything in his "reading".

On May 24 2014 04:09 jampidampi wrote:
You should all feel bad about not lynching tamburini. Just look at how reliefed he is about not getting lynched while proceeding to do nothing helpful. If a vig doesn't flip him I'll be pushing for his lynch D2.

On May 24 2014 23:40 marvellosity wrote:
What points towards town for you in kush's filter then, yellow? That's what you seem to be implying.

On May 25 2014 00:14 Yell0w wrote:


I'm sorry if I led you to believe that.

On May 25 2014 00:50 Yell0w wrote:
##Vote: BlueyD

Done.

On May 25 2014 00:50 marvellosity wrote:

Well the net of it is, you're complaining about people not having an opinion on kush, while sidestepping having one yourself.

If you don't think the case is that great, you should have reasons not to lynch him, or are you just randomly bitching at people joining a wagon when you don't have a proper opinion on the player in question?

On May 25 2014 00:59 Yell0w wrote:


But I'm not complaining at them because they don't have an opinion, I'm "bitching" because, while not having an opinion on the person, they voted against him. I don't think the case is that great, that's my reason not to lynch him, I think we have better candidates.

Lets just imagine a game where scum never talked in a game. Would that not be the easiest game in the world?

More obvious statements that are obvious. ME NO LIKE YOUUUUUUUUUUU

Steveling town? guttread? My gut says Leee mafia. Maybe you had something bad for dinner. Come over to my place Ill cook for the both of us and maybe are gut reads will align.

Fucking looks like it, and I really wanted to get you lynched day1.

If steve is the guy going against HF he is in my bad boy list and would lynch today.

Dislike this ALOT. You cannot be taught to be town you just are. Mafia has to try and act town.

So you are under the impression that new players that talk a lot and have a big filter cant be scum?

This is tehpoofter I like. Moved you to neutral.

I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null.

On May 25 2014 01:17 BlueyD wrote:
My defense is gonna suck but that's what you get: I'm a noob, this is my 2nd game in recent memory and it's too big for me. I've had no confidence in my reads so they come off as weak and I wait to see if someone better than me agrees instead of pushing them hard myself. I had similar behavior in Yuma with my kush read for what it's worth. Both cases I tried to build here, first on yellow and then on cav, were judged to suck on top of that so that makes me want to just say "I'm no good at this" and jump on wagons of people who are.

I'm just gonna drop any thought-filter I had for the rest of the time I have left, dunno how long that is, and go with honest thoughts here. I have nothing to lose really, I don't see myself surviving very long anyway. Also screw consistency with my previous reads in what I’m gonna say here. I’m sure there’s a lot of crap in there especially since I know very few of you, meta is a useful tool but I have no real access to it.

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Kush is just scum, I might not be pushing my reads well but he doesn’t even have reads. Laziness only goes so far. It’s not “just a meta case”, he’s just done nothing. Kill it with fire soon. Same for thrawn, either he actually does stuff really soon or town better kill him.

BH and Slam are in all likelihood town. This looks to me like a setup with 4 rival factions (one for each element) getting their NKs from controlling townies and making them kill stuff, with a group of town heroes immune to the control effects under most conditions. This is all speculation but that’s what I think. Either way BH and Slam have confirmed each other openly. It’s possible I’m entirely wrong, if ever one dies you’ll know the other’s alignment for sure though.

Fool is town, building them cases. Kita I don’t know. Like, his case on me reads well, which is what made me realize I’ve been playing like crap... Namely I should’ve said in advance I’d miss about 19 hours of play, and I should either have made strong cases or been openly lazy, I shouldn’t have put a filter on the analysis but not on the emotions... Right now the end result is I just end up looking like someone who wants to look like he’s doing stuff when he’s not. Meh. But at the same time, well, I know the conclusion’s wrong. I think most of it is explainable by him not knowing me at all, me playing like crap, and things not looking good in the filter out of context. But overall he’d be on the townier side.

Tamburini is possibly just lynchbait, his play makes no sense at all, and these crazy people who just fail to understand what is going on are usually lynchbait. I don't know if anyone can fake being this crazy while being a good player, people who've played with him would've called that immediately. I hate trying to read players like these because nothing they do is alignment-indicative and I’d hate to be in lylo with him but basically there’s a decent chance he’s town-aligned.

Yellow I wouldn’t lynch right now, and rereading his case makes me realize it was not that strong in the first place even though I made it. He still looks a bit scummy to me for having pointed out how easy it could be for scum to hide in BH’s RNG-lynch and then going for it anyway, and then keeping his vote on Odin after having legit scumreads... But some stuff like defending me against an unjustified early kita attack even though I was on his case makes me like him more. It’s like, he’s nullish because stuff he’s done just goes both ways. He started scum, he's looking more and more town, I figure if he keeps talking there are good chances he'll be a townread soon.

Sqrtofneg1 gives me stupidly strong scumvibes for no reason I can discern. It’s just a feeling. I open his filter and read a few posts and go “screw that”. That’s not a sign I foresee getting any useful info there. When I did manage to dive in I found a lot of unjustified town reads and not a lot of scum reads, and he turned his read on Ceph from town to scum with no reason. Lots of spam. Leaning scum. Lynch or shoot soon.

Cav has had scummy moments: screwed up his meta read on me then told me to shut up and take my townie read when I questioned him on it instead of answering, then later on he’s at the point where he’d lynch me without having explained why. Plus that case I made on him which no one paid attention to. I’d put him on the scumteam.

Holyflare is the 4th player I’ve played with, he's apparently known for playing the same way as town and as scum so I'm not even gonna try to read him.

Steve is likely town as I’ve said, no non-suicidal scum would claim a survival role at the moment he did. Apparently he has 4 pots of invulnerability, or whatever you want to call them. That doesn’t mean listen to him, that just means ignore his ass for another 3 cycles or so if you don’t like him, he might even die by himself once his pots run out.

Geript has been waving a gun in front of everyone but I’m gonna go ahead and bet it’s made of plastic. I can’t see a guy with that temper not shooting early especially when there were ok targets, and it’s kind of risky to claim vig D1. He’s doing exactly the opposite of what I’d do with a gun, aka keep it under the pillow and suprise-shoot when necessary. Does that make him scum? Well it at least makes it more likely. Meta reads apply here, as I don’t know the guy.

I think it was kita who mentioned I should’ve analyzed ceph. Truth is when I wrote that post, the Ceph-bunny part is what I wrote last, it was tacked on to the rest of the post which I took a lot of time thinking up. I got lazy there, plus I had no idea whether the bad case made Ceph scummy or not, so I just went with my first thought, which was that at any rate the case wasn’t good. In hindsight I don’t like that he came in, tunneled one person, left, and didn’t show up for so long afterwards. Doesn’t feel like he carefully picked his time and target to strike, just feels like he wanted to build a case on whoever he saw, and stuck at the first person he interacted with. Scum.

Xata is really really town too. I don’t care to give details on that one. But some stuff he’s said makes it pretty obvious.

The rest of the players made no strong impression on me. Had a few reads I had little confidence in in a notepad file but they’re not up to date. Had a list of to-watch people which included Val, ritoki, Austin, jampi and layabout, plus some guys I talk about up there (thrawn, val, yellow, ceph, tambo). Had onceking, Hapa and ninjabunnies on the townier side for I-don’t-know-why. I even had marv 3rd party early in the game like a bunch of people now do due to him telling someone not to worry too much about factions and just hunt scum. That was another just-a-feeling that I’d have felt silly putting out there, but might actually have been useful in hindsight. Who knows.

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All right, this is already more than long enough. At worst you lynch me and I'm free from this time-consuming hulk of a game. If you lynch me you'll be one bad townie down which isn't so bad, but at least you'll have a bunch of thoughts you'll know comes from a townie. By the way I'm VT so you don't lose any powers by lynching or otherwise shooting me.

I'm just gonna spend the afternoon outside. I'll take a look again tonight.

On May 25 2014 01:23 Erandorr wrote:


oh come on

I had no possibility to fucking follow-up on yellow. Look at the time between that post and the lynch. I post nothing. Know why? Because I couldn't be there for RL reasons. And I can hardly follow-up on stuff when I wasn't be there. My mistake here is not letting you know ahead of time, which I fucking will next time.

My defense is gonna suck but that's what you get: I'm a noob, this is my 2nd game in recent memory and it's too big for me. I've had no confidence in my reads so they come off as weak and I wait to see if someone better than me agrees instead of pushing them hard myself. I had similar behavior in Yuma with my kush read for what it's worth. Both cases I tried to build here, first on yellow and then on cav, were judged to suck on top of that so that makes me want to just say "I'm no good at this" and jump on wagons of people who are.

On May 25 2014 01:41 kushm4sta wrote:
blueyd looks pretty solid to me not that that means anything in this gmae