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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 18:16 GMT
#3621
Does the above make sense to you though? It's more about Foolishness and him saying, all within one post,

Kush is known for giving zero fucks
Townies try to solve the problem (i.e. give fucks), scum do not
Kush is not trying to solve the problem
That's not okay and points towards being mafia

I'll look more into thrawn, poking around yellow right now.
Fe fi fo fum.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 24 2014 18:19 GMT
#3622
alakaslam is doing stuff so he probably has a team.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 18:20 GMT
#3623
On May 25 2014 03:09 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 20:50 Xatalos wrote:
Foolishness is probably most likely town out of the veteran players.
Given that the other hydra was town and seemed to believe he should be trusted, as well as the bit from elderly peruvian man about how one head was likely sand (and iirc, some analysis of a specific wording that pointed towards americas or maybe sand in brazil), do you think that in a 5 faction game, a Foolishness hydra and a Sandroba hydra both go townside for balance?


I think the roles are given out randomly and not based on player skill?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 24 2014 18:22 GMT
#3624
On May 25 2014 03:16 austinmcc wrote:
Does the above make sense to you though? It's more about Foolishness and him saying, all within one post,

Kush is known for giving zero fucks
Townies try to solve the problem (i.e. give fucks), scum do not
Kush is not trying to solve the problem
That's not okay and points towards being mafia

I'll look more into thrawn, poking around yellow right now.

I understand what you are saying but I still get dem skum pheelz from Kush

From Thrawn they are stronger though
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 24 2014 18:23 GMT
#3625
alaka why
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 18:25 GMT
#3626
On May 25 2014 03:20 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 03:09 austinmcc wrote:
On May 24 2014 20:50 Xatalos wrote:
Foolishness is probably most likely town out of the veteran players.
Given that the other hydra was town and seemed to believe he should be trusted, as well as the bit from elderly peruvian man about how one head was likely sand (and iirc, some analysis of a specific wording that pointed towards americas or maybe sand in brazil), do you think that in a 5 faction game, a Foolishness hydra and a Sandroba hydra both go townside for balance?


I think the roles are given out randomly and not based on player skill?
Normally there's some consideration for balance. I would not expect a possible Sandroba, Foolishness, and the elderly heterosexual peruvian to be of one faction.

I think a little less strongly that both hydras wouldn't be one alignment. Town hydras strong, town hydras with strong players super strong.

The only issue with this game is the closed setup, so it would be possible that things are balanced around town having strong PLAYERS. But the game would have to be designed BEFORE it was posted, so you wouldn't know who would sign up or hydra, and I don't think you'd balance in light of that. You'd already be set.
Fe fi fo fum.
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
May 24 2014 18:26 GMT
#3627
Foolishness is a whore
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 18:27 GMT
#3628
Good to know.

kush, out of people voting you who is the most likely town/scum?
Fe fi fo fum.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
May 24 2014 18:27 GMT
#3629
don't wanna lynch erandorr today cause i feel his pain as a replacement and want to give him a shot to start contributing
i have no idea how i feel about blueyd now. his defense strikes me as being super genuine and i feel good about mosta his reads buuuuuuuut what erandorr says in these three posts are also good points.

i see some people are having doubts on kush and are skeptical cuz meta case/people jumping on the wagon super fast. whether the case is meta or not doesn't change the fact that kush is objectively being scummy independent of the meta stuff, and we have still over a day before the lynch goes through so there's plenty of time to chinese fire drill/see if counterwagons and stuff start cropping up
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 18:31 GMT
#3630
mattchew, is foolishness a town or a mafia whore?
Fe fi fo fum.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 24 2014 18:34 GMT
#3631
kushm4sta (7): Xatalos, mattisfoolish, Alakaslam, Cavalinho, Steveling, OnceKing, BlueyD

blueyD looks town just read some of his filter.
steveling looks town but apparently he is supergood scum??
alakaslam is probably scum because 1 hes going after plynches d2 which he does as scum and 2 he's trying
xatalos: dunno
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 24 2014 18:35 GMT
#3632
i pledge to read the game from here on out because it seems like it slowed down.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 20:54:30
May 24 2014 18:35 GMT
#3633
Vote Count - Day 2:


kushm4sta (6): Xatalos, mattisfoolish, Alakaslam, Cavalinho, Steveling, OnceKing, BlueyD
mtamburini (2): OnceKing, Blazinghand, jampidampi
ritoky (1): layabout
BlueyD (2): kitaman27, marvellosity, Xatalos, yell0w
Steveling (0): Alakaslam
Thrawn2112 (0): Alakaslam
Blazinghand (0): Steveling
Erandorr (1): Holyflare
sqrtofneg1 (1): Xatalos

Not voting: Everyone else



Currently kushm4sta is set to be lynched with 6 votes! Deadline is in .

Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in the Voting Thread.


Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 18:38 GMT
#3634
On May 25 2014 03:34 kushm4sta wrote:
kushm4sta (7): Xatalos, mattisfoolish, Alakaslam, Cavalinho, Steveling, OnceKing, BlueyD

blueyD looks town just read some of his filter.
steveling looks town but apparently he is supergood scum??
alakaslam is probably scum because 1 hes going after plynches d2 which he does as scum and 2 he's trying
xatalos: dunno
What is slam doing with his claiming/giving information away if he's mafia?
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 18:44 GMT
#3635
On May 25 2014 03:25 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 03:20 Xatalos wrote:
On May 25 2014 03:09 austinmcc wrote:
On May 24 2014 20:50 Xatalos wrote:
Foolishness is probably most likely town out of the veteran players.
Given that the other hydra was town and seemed to believe he should be trusted, as well as the bit from elderly peruvian man about how one head was likely sand (and iirc, some analysis of a specific wording that pointed towards americas or maybe sand in brazil), do you think that in a 5 faction game, a Foolishness hydra and a Sandroba hydra both go townside for balance?


I think the roles are given out randomly and not based on player skill?
Normally there's some consideration for balance. I would not expect a possible Sandroba, Foolishness, and the elderly heterosexual peruvian to be of one faction.

I think a little less strongly that both hydras wouldn't be one alignment. Town hydras strong, town hydras with strong players super strong.

The only issue with this game is the closed setup, so it would be possible that things are balanced around town having strong PLAYERS. But the game would have to be designed BEFORE it was posted, so you wouldn't know who would sign up or hydra, and I don't think you'd balance in light of that. You'd already be set.


There was that PYP game about half a year ago though where all the experienced players were town and the scumteam just lurked to their death. Dunno. I think it's usually random.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 18:46 GMT
#3636
Most games are balanced. Most themed games even. PYP somewhat of a different animal though because you can offer a suite of roles that interact with each other, but you never know what order people will pick and what roles everyone can get.

Are you legit just arguing that you think more games are random than balanced?
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 18:51 GMT
#3637
Dunno, but I think it's somewhat stupid to accuse one veteran player by "process of elimination among the veteran players"?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 18:57 GMT
#3638
Hapa, I get what you're specifically saying about yellow being scummy on mtam but not moving from his RNG vote over to mtam when mtam is a lynch option.

But I like his little comments.

I still like the early, "Okay, but can't we create a BETTER RNG system?" post. I like his all caps sarcasm lynch thing. He even comes BACK to the RNG thing in responding to Poofter/BlueyD, saying not only that he doesn't think RNG lynching is scummy, but actively arguing FOR RNG lynches.
I asked questions about it since this is my second game and no one brought it up in my first game and I wanted to know people's thoughts on it. Nobody really answered though, people either said my idea was good or it was bad, without saying why, no one answered my questions about BH's method and the general idea I got from the thread is that RNG lynches are just not fun, which I don't think is a good argument.
That bit is both following up about RNG lynches, "I asked about x and nobody answered me", indicating to me that he is generally interested in this thing and thinks it could be good and is kinda miffed that people didn't answer. He's also pro-RNG in thinking that the no-fun argument is bad.

I don't....he thinks BlueyD's case is bad, was weak, but he doesn't say anything about BlueyD's alignment there. Don't like that.

Catches that Kita is missing a post from BlueyD about mtam, the one where Bluey says "burini", causing Kita to miss something. Generally good unless BlueyD mafia and then POSSIBLE indication that they're same team, that he's overly familiar with BlueyD despite having no read on BlueyD above. Likes the case on BlueyD and votes him, indicating that's not a likely possibility (both same team), and therefore, catching kita's screwup on BlueyD is a positive.

I also generally just like his response to marv? I think it's a legitimate distinction to draw, that he can complain about folks having no opinion but voting, whereas he has no opinion but isn't voting?


Hapa do you think yellow's filter, on the WHOLE is scummy?
Fe fi fo fum.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
May 24 2014 18:57 GMT
#3639
why are we even speculating about setup when we can be talking about what thrawn or matt/fool have done that makes them town or scum?
someone tell me why thrawn is scum or town, same for matt/fool hydra while i go read their filters
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 19:00 GMT
#3640
On May 25 2014 03:51 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno, but I think it's somewhat stupid to accuse one veteran player by "process of elimination among the veteran players"?
It happens pretty frequently, mainly as a side note.

If you think I am saying "Foolishness seems scummy here SOLELY BECAUSE the other hydra was town and the list of veteran-y players has a bunch of towns in it at this point" then you are mistaken and not reading my posts and I don't like that.

What do you make of Foolishness saying that kush is known for giving no fucks, and then in the same posts saying that his not caring to try and improve the game/fix his concerns is a point against him?
Fe fi fo fum.
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