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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 19:53 GMT
#3661
why were you townie on kush early?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 19:55 GMT
#3662
On May 25 2014 04:53 marvellosity wrote:
why were you townie on kush early?
I guess early is kinda relative, but here were my thoughts

kush. Kush's filter is tiny and not too helpful, but it reads like the right amount of giving no fucks and giving out fuck yous. He complains a little about spamminess, which is fine by me. He complains when people can't understand arguments, which is fine by me. He's not DOING anything really, but in a way that strikes me as town.


On May 24 2014 06:13 austinmcc wrote:
What do you think of sqrt's post-lynch behavior Hapa?

Also, I agree with your overall framework for kush, but not your conclusion. I think there IS some playful stuff, I think he's complaining just the right amount and he pops in for ... non-mafia stuff? Mafia can complain about spam all day, can complain about all sorts of stuff, can encourage bad behavior, instead kush, among other things, tries to pop in and explain whatever that bit was about you and geript and someone and when things are usually town or not.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:22 kushm4sta wrote:
about the getript/sqrtneg1 exchange:

sqrtneg1 (terrible name btw) says "hapa is town because he's townreading "two alpha towns fighting"
getripts says "the person who does what hapa does is usually scum
strpt says usually they are but in not this case

sqrt thought getript was talking about himself
getript was actually talking abotu hapa

SO THE READING COMPREHENSION PROBABEM WAS WITH SQRT

this is pointless btw


I don't really see him bussing anyone except maybe you. I don't see him generally adding to thread disorganization.
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 19:59 GMT
#3663
Just saying that I go out of my way to avoid connecting myself with any of my teammates as scum I either bus, semi-bus or at least distance myself with everyone in my team. So if you think I'm "connected" with Foolishness, you're totally wrong. There's no way I could be scum with him.

And I still don't think that Foolishness's case is bad/scummy. But I'll let him defend himself, I can't be completely sure what he was thinking on that specific point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:00 GMT
#3664
##Summon: Foolishness
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
May 24 2014 20:00 GMT
#3665
austin, re: "who is tambo" catch
not actually a catch... maybe? reading through the filter the post in which he writes tambo before asking who tambo is was just a broken quote tag.
oh wait going back to check then he says he couldn't say anything about jampi/tambo in the same post

hmm dunno could go either way on this
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 20:01 GMT
#3666
In Dr. Who. there were more posts from him, he had scum suspects that he dropped for little/no reasons, he had these REALLY weird comments about other people.

He defended a scumbuddy by saying we "underestimated the fluidity of [kita's] reads D1"

Not the best comparison because he started off there as the only mafia, and was unkillable for a bit, and recruited (maybe that's applicable depending on how this is set up?). But he felt, in that game, like when you really took a good look at him, he was like...trying too hard in places. He'd defend someone for a bad reason, he was attack multiple people and then just dropped those reads for no reason.

Like...trying was his undoing? If he'd had little/no reads, or little/no reasons, then he wouldn't have looked so bad. Possible that he altered his play a little or that Dr. Who was an anomaly.
Fe fi fo fum.
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
May 24 2014 20:06 GMT
#3667
On May 25 2014 04:26 marvellosity wrote:
isn't the argument being made that

1) kush generally gives zero fucks
2) yet as town he'll make reads and stuff (despite giving (or looking like he gives) zero fucks)

in short I don't think giving zero fucks and making reads are mutually exclusive, which is what you're getting at i think?

^

If you need some clarification when I said the line "We can all agree Kush is a player who gives zero fucks" the thought process was as follows:

1) When Kush is town he will say things like "person X is scum" and "person Y is town" and he gives zero fucks about whether you agree or disagree with him. He'll go after whoever he damn well pleases.
2) When Kush is mafia he will say things like, "I give zero fucks" and just not give reads or do anything for the town.

In both cases he gives zero fucks, but it's what he's giving zero fucks about that's the key.


Don't know why you need to spend 4 pages debating a minor semantic issue. Really it's simple. You called Kush town and gave some reasons why. I used (essentially) the same reasons to say he's mafia. Either:

1) You disagree with the past-game analysis I did (i.e. I drew the wrong conclusion).
2) You agree with the past-game analysis but Kush is still town for other reasons.

If either is the case then say so now. As stated before, if you think that the cases are better on mtaburini, BlueyD, or Ritoky I will gladly move my vote to one of them and not look back. Debating semantics and calling into question me getting mafia lynched is not doing anything for the town.
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
May 24 2014 20:06 GMT
#3668
Oh also, who is this sandroba hydra?
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:09 GMT
#3669
On May 25 2014 05:06 mattisfoolish wrote:
Oh also, who is this sandroba hydra?

bfdgfdgdfgdfg. he dead.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 24 2014 20:11 GMT
#3670
i have called random people scum this game though
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:14 GMT
#3671
On May 23 2014 05:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
sorry for not voting, super face palm moment, thought deadline was at 3pm pst...


this guy.

this guy is mafia or he sucks severely.

kush's efforts put this guy to shame. And when that's the case you know something's not right.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:15 GMT
#3672
anyone fancy building a wagon on him and seeing if it makes him do something?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 20:16 GMT
#3673
On May 25 2014 05:06 mattisfoolish wrote:
Don't know why you need to spend 4 pages debating a minor semantic issue. Really it's simple. You called Kush town and gave some reasons why. I used (essentially) the same reasons to say he's mafia. Either:

1) You disagree with the past-game analysis I did (i.e. I drew the wrong conclusion).
2) You agree with the past-game analysis but Kush is still town for other reasons.

If either is the case then say so now. As stated before, if you think that the cases are better on mtaburini, BlueyD, or Ritoky I will gladly move my vote to one of them and not look back. Debating semantics and calling into question me getting mafia lynched is not doing anything for the town.
4 pages too much, but either it's just me being asked to restate something and going on and on, or there are ACTUAL strange responses to this. Xatalos arguing that game unlikely to be balanced, elderly heterosexual peruvian being not just disinterested, but mostly disinterested in discussing YOU, when in other games he tries to read you and if he gets some scummy whiffs is just on your case forever and very spammy about it.

I don't think you're particularly right, at least based on why I found kush scummy in Dr. Who. But I care less about that then what I'm seeing as a disingenuous push by you. My issue the last couple pages is how you made that argument.

If nothing else, if a thread is spammy, how does a townie help to solve that problem? And is kush the sort of player that, as a townie, would take those actions?



(I think he's more a shot than a lynch, peruvian)
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:16 GMT
#3674
On May 21 2014 13:34 Cephiro wrote:
General question to the players in the game:

1) Is my play more likely to come from town or scum?
2) Reasoning for the above.

Answer these if you'd like to help me get a read on you.

Play the game if you'd like us to get a read on you, maybe?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:16 GMT
#3675
obviously austin. but you're missing the point.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:17 GMT
#3676
##Vote: MysteryMeat1
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:19 GMT
#3677
On May 25 2014 05:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 05:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
sorry for not voting, super face palm moment, thought deadline was at 3pm pst...


this guy.

this guy is mafia or he sucks severely.

kush's efforts put this guy to shame. And when that's the case you know something's not right.


ROFL. That's seriously so bad as either town or scum. He would be the optimal Vig target IMO. Too bad I don't have a gun.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:20 GMT
#3678
we should make him play. join me.

he managed 7 pages of filter in 4 cycles in newbie LV. not masses, but he did actually play the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2014 20:21 GMT
#3679
we're not gonna make him play by vig-ing him, that'll just happen regardless. maybe he'll give some fucks if he's going to get lynched though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 24 2014 20:22 GMT
#3680
On May 25 2014 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
we should make him play. join me.

he managed 7 pages of filter in 4 cycles in newbie LV. not masses, but he did actually play the game.
On May 25 2014 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
we're not gonna make him play by vig-ing him, that'll just happen regardless. maybe he'll give some fucks if he's going to get lynched though
HELLO POT, PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT KETTLE
Fe fi fo fum.
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