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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 20:45 GMT
#1021
There appear to be an awful lot of promises floating around.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 20:46 GMT
#1022
@WoS

Did you read Extractor?

That's why I'm demoralized.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 20:46 GMT
#1023
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Rayn, I don't even know what to say. I know why people don't bother anymore.

I think ill ask for a replacement, I just don't care if rayn is town or scum but playing with him is actually infuriating as hell when you're town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 20:47 GMT
#1024
Look, if people other than Corazon disagree with my case on Corazon, or have reasons to think he's town, we're at the eleventh hour, so lets sort this out so I can not get mislynched in two consecutive games.
Writer@WriterYamato
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 08 2014 20:48 GMT
#1025
On January 09 2014 05:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Rayn, I don't even know what to say. I know why people don't bother anymore.

I think ill ask for a replacement, I just don't care if rayn is town or scum but playing with him is actually infuriating as hell when you're town.

Because of this post? Is he not allowed to disagree with you?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 20:49 GMT
#1026
On January 09 2014 05:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm interested in being active now, and I think JAT / Artanis are good picks for scum. So tell me what you think of either of those lynches, bugs?


I think I've been amply clear about my opinion and honestly any alternative is off the table.

It's not my fault you were not around to participate, so unless you can convince me why lynching cora/yamato is not a good idea or why lynching the others is a better idea then your chance of budging my vote is pretty much 0.

yamato says he is demoralized, Cora is trying to buddy me now, the afkers continue to be afk and we have pretty much no cohesion because no one in this town listens to common sense.

We have a few hours to actually consolidate. I was hoping we would've had more contribution from the less active players by now but clearly that isn't the case. The flip will hopefully give us insight into what really happened today, and I really don't like saying that.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 20:49 GMT
#1027
On January 09 2014 05:46 yamato77 wrote:
@WoS

Did you read Extractor?

That's why I'm demoralized.

I didn't aside from the business with Coag at the end. Anything in particular about it I should know aside from what is most likely the usual shit? (I mean, if 'the usual shit' is the problem here it's a wonder anybody plays mafia anymore because aside from Bugs' play I don't see anything here I haven't seen in 50 other games.)
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 20:50 GMT
#1028
On January 09 2014 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 05:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Rayn, I don't even know what to say. I know why people don't bother anymore.

I think ill ask for a replacement, I just don't care if rayn is town or scum but playing with him is actually infuriating as hell when you're town.

Because of this post? Is he not allowed to disagree with you?


he just calls everything bullshit, no point in even trying.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 20:50 GMT
#1029
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Suppose we lynched Cheese.

He flips town.

What happens then?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 20:52 GMT
#1030
I am sorry. I'll start calling things wrong instead of bullshit if it hurts someone.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 08 2014 20:52 GMT
#1031
On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Suppose we lynched Cheese.

He flips town.

What happens then?

Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 08 2014 20:53 GMT
#1032
Before I leave, bugs looks really town. Do not lynch him. I stand by my scumpicks, but as always unsure.

Sorry guys.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 20:53 GMT
#1033
wtf??

That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 20:53 GMT
#1034
On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Suppose we lynched Cheese.

He flips town.

What happens then?

What kinda question is this?
Suppose we lynch yamato and he flips town. Can we lynch you next?
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 08 2014 20:55 GMT
#1035
On January 09 2014 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
wtf??

That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up.

Hm? Of course we messed up if we lynch him and he is town. That doesn't make what I said untrue.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 20:55 GMT
#1036
On January 09 2014 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
wtf??

That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up.

No bugs, that's not how the game works.
When a townie gets lynched it's their fault, not anyone else's. They were the scummiest person in the game because they had the most votes at the end of the day.
table for two on a tv tray
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 20:56 GMT
#1037
like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do.

for clarity I'm talking about this post:

On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Suppose we lynched Cheese.

He flips town.

What happens then?

Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again.


Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation.

There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 20:56 GMT
#1038
Anyways dick move analysis says CC is town.
##unvote
I hate when people confirm themselves town this way.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 20:57 GMT
#1039
On January 09 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 09 2014 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
wtf??

That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up.

No bugs, that's not how the game works.
When a townie gets lynched it's their fault, not anyone else's. They were the scummiest person in the game because they had the most votes at the end of the day.


holy fuck I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

this is jubjub level logic.

This is how you'll never improve, if every time you lynch a townie you blame the guy for getting lynched instead of asking yourself why your goddamn read was wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
January 08 2014 20:59 GMT
#1040
On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do.

for clarity I'm talking about this post:

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On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.

Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.

@Cora

I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.

Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.

JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.

Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.

Thrawn - looks town, would bang.

Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.

So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.

- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.


Suppose we lynched Cheese.

He flips town.

What happens then?

Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again.


Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation.

There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults.

You asked a question and I answered it. If we lynched CC right now pretty much the only thing we would learn is his alignment.
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