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On January 08 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 17:27 mkfuba07 wrote:
Unexpected flu is replacing all of my free time with "try to catch up on sleep" time. Symptoms appear to be gone as of now, though, so I'm hoping my activity will pick up as we move into N1.
Only thing I have to say at the moment is that I'm still up for a Cora lynch. I assume that my posts about him make me one of the people "taking all of his posts and twisting them into lies," but he hasn't responded to what I've said in any way, even though numerous people have agreed at various times throughout the day that it's a valid point.
Wish I could participate more in discussion, but I've got about 6 hours before I have to be up again for class, and I'd like to fill it with as much sleep as possible. I should be free for a few hours leading up to the deadline. tbh at the time you made the comment about Corazon i was looking forward to his answer because the argument in itself does not make Corazon mafia and is not even necessarily scummy (depending on his answer). Instead it tells more about your alignment as you were clearly trying to figure out the game and thinking in a townie way. Could you comment on things that have happened in the last pages?
I was kinda hoping for his response too, but it never came. If he's really a townie who feels like people are misconstruing his play, wouldn't he at least comment on something that's been brought up repeatedly?
I just realized that I never actually placed my vote, so...
##Vote: Corazon
Biggest thing of note for me in recent pages is that I was becoming more and more inclined to agree with the scum yamato wagon (his activity felt like his most recent scum game that I was in), but his recent posting explains his previous play, as well as differentiates his play this game from the one I vaguely recall. I'm inclined to trust him.
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On January 08 2014 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn comments on WoS and iamp cases?
The points you brought up about WoS are outweighed by the effort put into the rest of his filter. I'm not sure what the case against iamp is other than him being lazy and not explaining his reasons. That doesn't make me think iamp's scum at all because town iamp likes his short and lazy posts. But in this game, the case is that he's slightly less coherent? I don't see a big enough distinction between his play in this game and in his past town games to accept this read.
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I'm here but still catching up and don't have much time today. Would anyone like to talk?
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Yes after you have caught up.
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I'm afraid I won't have much time to talk after I've caught up because I need to leave in about half an hour. I'm at Page 32 right now.
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VOTECOUNT
Mr. Cheesecake (2) - gumshoe, Artanis[xp]
Raynepelikoneet (0) - Thrawn2112
Thrawn2112 (0) - Yamato77, Raynepelikoneet
WaveofShadow (1) - wherebugsgo, Thrawn2112, Kushm4sta, IamPerfection
yamato77 (3) - Corazon, IamPerfection, WaveofShadow, IamPerfection, wherebugsgo, Thrawn2112,
Kushm4sta (0) - wherebugsgo
wherebugsgo (1) - Kushm4sta, Corazon
Corazon (3) - wherebugsgo, Thrawn2112, Raynepelikoneet, mkfuba07
Not Voting (3) - justanothertownie, Mr. Cheesecake, Yamato77
Day One ends in
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Well after you have state your thoughts on important things going on.
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God Artanis i finally get what you are saying about Cheesecake. Please stop with the scumpoint shit, it's really confusing. I'll go now check Cheesecake and if i agree with you.
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On January 08 2014 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But when i make a case on thrawn, he (cora) does not apparently even read the case (or if he does - he misrepresents it totally - which makes him scum). He calls the case OMGUS and the argument between me and thrawn a "shitstorm which will ruin the town". This is totally not the case.
I like this point.
On January 08 2014 17:51 mkfuba07 wrote:
I was kinda hoping for his response too, but it never came. If he's really a townie who feels like people are misconstruing his play, wouldn't he at least comment on something that's been brought up repeatedly?
I also like this point. Scumpointsᵀᴹ to Cora.
On January 08 2014 16:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:@ yamato (mainly);
Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn:
Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.
WoS:
I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to.
1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2.
2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.
What he has done in this game is neither of those things. Would you not consider his last couple of posts 'confident' in him not getting lynched today? I dunno Rayn it's like I said to WBG, I am not particularly good at meta, and I very rarely see it getting used well so I can't really take reads solely based on meta into account. I see what yamato has done in this game, and it's scummy. I think atm this is the only post/argument that could make WoS scum. He does not explain how what yamato has done in this game is scummy. Because yamato hasn't done anything besides argued with me up to this point. So where the scumread is based on? Lurker lynch? No, because WoS said yamato is scummy. Meta? No, because WoS said he's not good at meta so he does not use it. So exactly why is what yamato has done up to this point of the game scummy?
I agree here though I'd need to filter dive WoS again. I'm not sure this is something he'd do as town especially after being so active.
I can't really comment on the Thrawn case because I have no idea what the effects of drugs are as I've never really used them myself. In a vacuum it looks scummy as shit and I haven't really been impressed by the rest of his play.
Dunno when I'll be back, but I'll try to find time before the deadline.
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Actually you are right. CheeseCake forms a scumread on you based on your posts between 7th 11:00 (where he states he has a null read on you) - 8th 01:00 (where he votes for you). His reasoning is your posts towards him (he literally says "because Artanis wouldn't play nice with me"). The problem is you make no posts towards him during that time, the only thing you do is you clarify your thoguht process to me.
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If you are still here i would like to hear why you do not find the iamp case worth discussing.
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On January 08 2014 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are still here i would like to hear why you do not find the iamp case worth discussing.
I'm going through breakfast as fast as possible to leave afterwards. Iamps case doesn't really say anything and requires me to filter him again which I don't have time for right now.
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Also forgot to account for the Scumpointsᵀᴹ on WoS. Only a few though.
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So you have now Cora, gumshoe, WoS and Cheesecake as scum.
Which of the names does not belong here and which one is the strongest?
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On January 08 2014 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you have now Cora, gumshoe, WoS and Cheesecake as scum.
Which of the names does not belong here and which one is the strongest?
I don't think Gumshoe is scum anymore after how he responded earlier. My strongest read is still my first read, which is why my vote is still on mr. supposedly sexy.
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Off now, will try to check in later.
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Yeah that's what i thought, and now i remember you said that about gumshoe. For some reason your posts are really hard for me to understand in this game, especially all the posts during the you-gumshoe-CC argument. Idk why that is but i promise to try better. 
Anyways the case on CC is good and if he does not answer it reasonably he's a candidate for being lynched today.
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On January 08 2014 18:12 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn comments on WoS and iamp cases? The points you brought up about WoS are outweighed by the effort put into the rest of his filter. I'm not sure what the case against iamp is other than him being lazy and not explaining his reasons. That doesn't make me think iamp's scum at all because town iamp likes his short and lazy posts. But in this game, the case is that he's slightly less coherent? I don't see a big enough distinction between his play in this game and in his past town games to accept this read.
This is something i really dislike. Even the worst scumplayer in the world does not slip in every post and has townie posts. You can't just sweep scummy stuff under the rug and say "but he has done townie things too". This is also not how you usually operate, so care to explain why you are doing this here?
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Thing is, I'd rather lynch WoS or iamp than Cora. I'd settle for Cora, but I would rather not. As I said before, there is a decent possibility he's just screwing around a bit much as town.
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lol yamato did you put your "case" on me in a bunch of spoilers because you were embarrassed to actually put in the thread
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