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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:42 GMT
#581
None of the votes on me are explained. There is no case. It's just hair-trigger vote switching.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:43 GMT
#582
It's also not helpful when two people who aren't voting for me take all of my posts and twist them into lies.
Grubby's #1 Fan
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 08 2014 04:44 GMT
#583
On January 08 2014 13:35 Corazon wrote:
@Thrawn
I think you two have had decent contributions to the scumhunt and frankly, I see your back-and-forth b/w you and Rayn to be town on town. I also would hate to lynch Rayn D1. It would just be bad play overall, barring a scum claim from him.


Your assessment of the fight is completely off. I decided rayn was town a long time ago and only wanted to lynch him for like 5 minutes, most of it was him attacking me. When you decided to play thread cop the argument had already died down and I think both of us had at least resolved not to press the issue further.

Also I haven't really had that great of contributions yet, especially compared to the standard you held me to during BttB so I don't like that part of your post either.

"I also would hate to lynch Rayn D1. It would just be bad play overall, barring a scum claim from him"

I'm not sure who you're even addressing here or what advice you're trying to give. Sure, if rayn "scum claims" I'll lynch him... you thought lynching scum claimers is a strategy only you are privy to?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:45 GMT
#584
Nobody is twisitng anything. I asked you a simple question and i am expecting an answer.
If you refuse to answer me, you are doing the same thing you accuse WBG of being scum for, refusing to play the game.
It's that simple, by your definition that makes you mafia.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 08 2014 04:46 GMT
#585
should have read as "standard you tried to hold me to"
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:46 GMT
#586
On January 08 2014 13:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody is twisitng anything. I asked you a simple question and i am expecting an answer.
If you refuse to answer me, you are doing the same thing you accuse WBG of being scum for, refusing to play the game.
It's that simple, by your definition that makes you mafia.

Go look at WoS and WBG quoting me and then lying about what I wrote. They're twisting my words.

There is a difference between refusing to answer a question and refusing to give out and information at all.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 04:47 GMT
#587
On January 08 2014 13:40 Corazon wrote:
I don't know Rayn, it's hard to be cooperative with a gun down your throat.

This is a terrible excuse. How long do we have until the lynch?
Hell not only that, I believe I was in the EXACT same position as you not 3 hours ago.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:49 GMT
#588
On January 08 2014 13:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:35 Corazon wrote:
@Thrawn
I think you two have had decent contributions to the scumhunt and frankly, I see your back-and-forth b/w you and Rayn to be town on town. I also would hate to lynch Rayn D1. It would just be bad play overall, barring a scum claim from him.


Your assessment of the fight is completely off. I decided rayn was town a long time ago and only wanted to lynch him for like 5 minutes, most of it was him attacking me. When you decided to play thread cop the argument had already died down and I think both of us had at least resolved not to press the issue further.

Also I haven't really had that great of contributions yet, especially compared to the standard you held me to during BttB so I don't like that part of your post either.

"I also would hate to lynch Rayn D1. It would just be bad play overall, barring a scum claim from him"

I'm not sure who you're even addressing here or what advice you're trying to give. Sure, if rayn "scum claims" I'll lynch him... you thought lynching scum claimers is a strategy only you are privy to?

I honestly can't remember what standard I held you to in BttB. I actually forgot that you were in BttB.
Your town play consists of switching your reads every 5 minutes so I thought you were being serious about most of your reads.
I just read the two pages and told you guys to stop without reading the post right about mine. Usually when Rayn gets in a spat with someone, it lasts for a really long time.
In my opinion, lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea for reasons I've stated already. I don't mean every single word literally T.T
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:49 GMT
#589
On January 08 2014 13:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:40 Corazon wrote:
I don't know Rayn, it's hard to be cooperative with a gun down your throat.

This is a terrible excuse. How long do we have until the lynch?
Hell not only that, I believe I was in the EXACT same position as you not 3 hours ago.

Hey look, a post where you don't like about what I say. That's a first.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 04:49 GMT
#590
Cora I absolutely hate this 'woe is me, everyone's against me, look at people lying and twisting my words' attitude.
I've read some of the other games you've played in and you do this all the time.
Sack up and fucking play the game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:52 GMT
#591
On January 08 2014 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Cora I absolutely hate this 'woe is me, everyone's against me, look at people lying and twisting my words' attitude.
I've read some of the other games you've played in and you do this all the time.
Sack up and fucking play the game.

Then stop fucking lying about every single post I make.
Grubby's #1 Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:54 GMT
#592
On January 08 2014 13:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon show me thrawn's contributions to scumhunting.

This is the last time i ask about this.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 08 2014 04:54 GMT
#593
On January 08 2014 13:52 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Cora I absolutely hate this 'woe is me, everyone's against me, look at people lying and twisting my words' attitude.
I've read some of the other games you've played in and you do this all the time.
Sack up and fucking play the game.

Then stop fucking lying about every single post I make.


Why did you say I had made enough quality contributions towards scumhunting to be considered so town that you don't need to worry about my alignment at all during D1?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 04:56 GMT
#594
On January 08 2014 13:52 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Cora I absolutely hate this 'woe is me, everyone's against me, look at people lying and twisting my words' attitude.
I've read some of the other games you've played in and you do this all the time.
Sack up and fucking play the game.

Then stop fucking lying about every single post I make.

I may have to put you on ignore like I do kush.
You are insanely infuriating.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:56 GMT
#595
Because you are playing exactly like you are as town. Paranoid and changing your reads every 5 minutes.

Yamato and WBG are much better lynch candidates, IMO.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:57 GMT
#596
On January 08 2014 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:52 Corazon wrote:
On January 08 2014 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Cora I absolutely hate this 'woe is me, everyone's against me, look at people lying and twisting my words' attitude.
I've read some of the other games you've played in and you do this all the time.
Sack up and fucking play the game.

Then stop fucking lying about every single post I make.

I may have to put you on ignore like I do kush.
You are insanely infuriating.

It's infuriating to have you twist my words. This is a two way street, brother.
I'm trying my hardest to be nice, but when you do this shit to me, it's hard to be cordial.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:57 GMT
#597
I'm gonna go practice some SC. I'll be back tomorrow.
Grubby's #1 Fan
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 04:57 GMT
#598
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.

We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.

As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 08 2014 04:59 GMT
#599
On January 08 2014 13:56 Corazon wrote:
Because you are playing exactly like you are as town. Paranoid and changing your reads every 5 minutes.


That's not the original reason you gave for excusing me from scrutiny. You said I had made quality contributions towards scumhunting and you're being asked to explain what made you type those words.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 05:02 GMT
#600
On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.

We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.

As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato.

I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.

If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking. Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was.
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